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rlfulgham

Way back on your long post about a certain "publisher" which has a bad reputation for taking advantage of naive writers, Dave Kuminsky and many others laughed at a post I had written to the publisher. Well, I want you all to know it was a sarcastic, delibrate dig and not a serious ass-kissing. Dave knows I love hoaxes, and in the name of hoaxes I sacrified a perfectly good novella to get into this publisher's huge in-crowd of losers and wannabes. I intend to have great fun there, unless some of you guys blow my cover. Note I have not listed any publisher by name. Anyway, as I emailed Dave and another cool guy here, I am not the idiot I so often pretend to be. I'm a traditionally published author and Dave will vouch for me, I think. Anyway, I had to answer the uninformed attack on my intelligence. Thanks for hearing me out. BTW, I've joined, so you may be seeing my name. Don't puke when you see it. For Christ's sake, that other post was tongue in cheek, to put it lightly.
 

aka eraser

Re: Hey, my fellow authors here have besmearched my good nam

I'm reasonably certain that "other publisher" eyeballs this board with some regularity so I think you just outed yourself.

More and more PA writers peek over here too so I have a hunch the "losers and wannabes" might not be too thrilled to see you over "there" either.
 

DaveKuzminski

Re: Hey, my fellow authors here have besmearched my good nam

I don't take any of this in a laughing manner. I might paste a smiley on occasion to let others know that I'm being deliberately sarcastic or don't believe what was stated, but I do not laugh at any writer's troubles.

As to what aka eraser stated, it's very likely true that you've outed yourself. I know, and I believe several others do too, that there are some writers from certain places that frequent this board for the purpose of gathering information.
 

Gala

Re: Hey, my fellow authors here have besmearched my good nam

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I am not the idiot I so often pretend to be.<hr></blockquote>

Eager to know who you are, as this is your first post.

Missy S. King. <img border=0 src="http://www.ezboard.com/image/posticons/pi_hippie.gif" />
 

James D Macdonald

Re: Hey, my fellow authors here have besmearched my good nam

Hi, R. L.

Let us know when your password at that other publisher's board stops working, okay?
 

rlfulgham

Re: poster apolgises to the universe at large

Mr. Kuminsky had no knowledge that I hoaxed WN or "the other publisher". He was very kind to me when I used my real name at the WN forum, that's all. I will not be pulling any more hoaxes of any kind, though there some who enjoyed my little comedies and paradies at WN. I have already been booted off the forum at "the other publisher". They may have made my book unavailable, but I hope not. Goodbye.
 

Stephenie Hovland

Re: poster apolgises to the universe at large

Edited to compensate for something funny to me and to no one else.

Of course, if you had been in my shoes, it woulda been funny.

Didn't mean to apply it to anyone here, by the way.
 

sherri234

Re: poster apolgises to the universe at large

Can someone tell me what the WN Forum initials stand for. Thanks much.

warm regards, susie
 

Stephanie

Re: besmirched

I don't know what you're talking about in the body of your post, but I believe "besmirch" is the word you're looking for: charge falsely or with malicious intent; attack the good name and reputation of someone; smear so as to make dirty or stained.

There is besmear, of course, which is to spread or daub (a surface). Perhaps you were besmeared all over the place?

Course, now I'm all bewildered...
 

rlfulgham

Re: besmirched

I meant besmearched. Smeared. I teach at a school for handicapped children. Two of them have brain tumors. So the other Stephanie's post was not only offensive, it was cruel to the thousands of people -- many of them poets and writers -- who read these posts.
I'm only responding to this because I'm curious who has what to say. At least my hoaxes harmed no one and were good spirited. Your comment was mean spirited, Stephanie, because you joined the other Stephanie in exhibiting bad taste and inflicting painful "humor".

I was making people laugh. You were making one person feel alone and isolated here. You were the highschool girl who joins the mob in torturing a girl who does fit into the incrowd.
Both of you should be ashamed of yourselves to remind an old man that he is still the outsider he has always been and is not welcome in your crowd.
 

Stephanie

Re: besmirched

What old man? Roberta is a woman's name.

Now I'm utterly bemused!
 

rlfulgham

Re: besmirched

Had to change that name on the bio. Too many stones being thrown from inside the mob. Well, think I'll go down to the deli now. There's this chick there I like despite her pretentions. She makes an excellent baloney sandwich.
 

Stephenie Hovland

Re: besmirched

Wow! Guess that was taken wrong, huh!

I do have a sense of humor. Life is hard. You have to. Would it make you feel any better if I told you a young girl I know died of a brain tumor just this weekend? She had a sense of humor, too. I can still enjoy life. Sorry I wrecked yours!

And, I am so opposite of the teasing girls from your school days, it isn't funny!

Anyway, I'll let it go as a way-too-sensitive reception.

Or, perhaps, a really off-beat sense of humor. Yes, that's what I'm choosing to believe. Nice try! You almost had me believing I hurt your feelings.

Just for the record, I'd never do that intentionally.
 

rlfulgham

Re: besmirched

Hi,
I lashed out because this brought up memories of high school, when I really was picked on. That was only 40 years ago. I know you folks are decent people -- I guess I want you to know I'm a decent person too. I got mad because I confessed to playing tricks on innocent people, then got a taste of my own medicine. I'm going to fix my bio and hope we can forget this happened. I'm in the absurd situation of having to apologise for my first apology. I tell you, I may be the silliest person on earth at times. But I'm a writer, like you folks, and I hope you'll let me hang around on that principle alone. :gone
 

absolutewrite

Re: besmirched

Hey Richard,

You're more than welcome here, and I think we'll all just agree to start again. :grin One favor to ask, though--

We have only one rule on the board. It is: "Respect your fellow writers." No matter what your beef is with the publisher (and ohhh, how I do understand that beef, believe me!), please don't put down fellow writers ("losers and wannabes"). Many of their authors are on this board, and they're of all levels. Regardless of talent, though, the fact is that most of us share the same dream and are working toward it. We're not two different teams fighting against each other.

Oh, and will it help if I tell you I was nicknamed Jenny Gladnerd in the 6th grade? :grin
 

absolutewrite

Re: besmirched

Ha!

Okay, Richard, you can't have it both ways. Here, you're telling us it was all a hoax and your praise of PA was tongue-in-cheek, then in subsequent posts, you're praising PA for giving writers a chance. Please explain. It sounds like you were hoaxing us about your hoax...
 

rlfulgham

Re: besmirched

Oh, I just found this. Sorry to take so long. I'm not sure, but I'll bet the Olde Englishe spelling of "besmirched" was "besmearched". Seems I remember this from grad school.

As for my confusing posts, I couldn't agree more that they are confusing. This is because I kept changing my mind. It's also because I first acted intellectually, then acted emotionally. 8o But there's another reason: I wanted to keep out of trouble with PublishAmerica. So I thought I better defend it, though I had just attacked it. So I defended it and got into an incredible argument. At the end, I found myself forced to admit that I cannot defend their deliberate deception of writers. If they pull my book, then they've broken the contract and I'll find another publisher. I have one in mind who wants to see the book -- so I'm now hoping PublishAmerica will kick me out. Here's the final post I posted at both Absolute Write (Beware) and Writers Net:

"I just enjoyed a great debate at another writing forum. I initially argued that author mills have their place because they enable everyone to see themselves in print regardless of ability. There are no "losers". All previsouly unpublished writers can feel good about themselves and call themselves authors.

"I retract that argument here. I changed my initial viewpoint because my peers 'wised me up'.

"It's the classic Shakespearian truism: be true to yourself. Take the easiest path to getting your words between covers if you just want to fool yourself. If you want respect from your peers -- if you want recognition as an author -- if you want readers -- then you must do it the hard way.

"It's like in those schools where all students get the same award, no matter which student really deserved it. 'Everyone is Valedictorian this year!'

"That isn't winning an award. That's bringing everyone down to the lowest level. It's saying "The best is no better than the worst". My respects to Mr. Kuzminski and Dave MacDonald."

My respects also to you and the two Stephanies whom I attacked only because they touched a raw nerve. I hope to be a better human being from now on and will think carefully before I say anything on a public forum. :thumbs
 

rtilryarms

Who, exactly, is the villain here?

Uh oh…

What happened? You thought you were coming here to read a response to your last drooling diatribe didn’t you? Shame on you for enjoying this public pounding.

Everybody has issues with you, the entire internet has banned you and yet you still parade yourself as the final solution and Gods gift to the writing world.

Somehow you prefer your fantasy world over the real one. That is fine but we are requesting then that you stay there and quit polluting ours.

So, we decided that you were using us as your pathetic attempt to re-communicate to a world that has ostracized you.
We do not want to be involved with your self destruction. You were banned from here and everywhere else for a reason and we will not permit you to communicate even third party.

WARNING:
Any further attempts at communication from you will be forwarded to people with whom you associate; personally and professionally. If you are going to bother me or us, then you will also be bothering them. Maybe they can make you stop. Or they will kick you out of their lives as well. Your next communication will be the one that you can use to find out if I am serious and what the ramifications are. It is just a click of the keyboard for me. Your choice.
 

James D Macdonald

Re: Who, exactly, is the villain here?

Now it can be revealed:

Osama bin Laden is the Amazon Slammer.

Ever since Osama had his novel (Jihad Days and Kabul Nights) turned down by PA he's had this insane desire to bring down that Frederick, Maryland based company. He doesn't care who he hurts along the way. You know those international terrorists.

That's why there were armed guards at the PA convention earlier this year. Homeland Security is on it.

Yo! FBI! You want to find Osama? Just track down the Amazon Slammer.
 

rtilryarms

Re: Who, exactly, is the villain here?

Oh man...

that's a good one!
 

mysteryhost

Re: Who, exactly, is the villain here?

Let me guess, I missed something here....right?