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Thread: A Passionately Fair Publisher / A.P.F.Publisher / Passion for Poetry Publishing

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    A Passionately Fair Publisher / A.P.F.Publisher / Passion for Poetry Publishing

    http://www.pfppublishers.com/

    I was searching books online, noted a rather unattractive cover and high price ($22 for 175 pages), and got curious about the publisher.
    From the look of the website, I guessed they were enthusiastic amateurs, and I know that poetry is one of the places where self-publishing can be the better option (though it seems that P.F.P. also publishes 'fictional novels'.)
    They have a lulu shop, so I'm guessing they print through lulu, fair enough.
    But I have to wonder about their 'publishing terms'.
    Our charges providing your poem are sent to us ready in a word format is American $500 or 250 UK pound.
    (if the poems are just sent loose needing to be arranged then depending on how much etra work is needed we will have to charge more for the service)
    $300 or 100 when you send in the manuscript.... The rest paid when you OK the book..
    and this suggested a lack of knowledge of commercial publishing:
    We do all what any other publisher does for much less money...We can have you a book out within 4 weeks and you do not have to buy it in bulk to get discount prices. You get the discount whether you buy one book or 20.
    Clueless rather than scammers, but surely better to go with lulu without the middleman?
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    The King and Queen of Cheese BenPanced's Avatar
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    Our charges providing your poem are sent to us ready in a word format
    (if the poems are just sent loose needing to be arranged then depending on how much etra work is needed we will have to charge more for the service)
    Yeah, I'm going to trust my work to these bozos. "All your poem are belong to us"?

    But you're right. For those prices, do it on Lulu yourself and you'll get much more for the money.
    I still poop rainbows.

    I won't steal any of your ideas. I have enough of my own I'm not using.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BenPanced View Post
    All your poem are belong to us?
    Emily Veinglory

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    2 Books are printed like most books today on P O D (print on demand) basis.
    Quel surprise! Founded by a PA author.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KTC View Post
    My poem are a book!
    I still poop rainbows.

    I won't steal any of your ideas. I have enough of my own I'm not using.



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    I'm trying my hand at Bentalk. (-;
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    my eyes are bleeding from that website...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTC View Post
    I'm trying my hand at Bentalk. (-;
    I are being understooding it!
    I still poop rainbows.

    I won't steal any of your ideas. I have enough of my own I'm not using.



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    The typos! The color combos! A Disney Princess on LSD designed that site and those covers.

    YAAARRRRRRGGGGH!!!


    "You give have to give us P.F.P.Publishers by written agreement the publishing rights,"

    Um--for HOW LONG? I don't have to give you nuttin', bubala, not with that pathetic sentence structure warning me clear of you.

    Other publishers have a set period of time or circumstances for that kind of thing. The rights revert back to the writer when the time expires or the sales drop below a certain level. Sheesh, even PubliSHAMErica has a 7 year limit.

    As it's a good chance the sales for these books is going to be pretty dismal I would suggest a time limit thing.

    And spell-check! USE YOUR FRICKIN' SPELL-CHECK!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gillhoughly View Post
    A Disney Princess on LSD designed that site and those covers.

    YAAARRRRRRGGGGH!!!

    I'm capturing this. Disney Princess on LSD! Where the heck are my crayons? I want to draw this princess!
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    They are probably seeing all the hits and registering where they are from too. I think I'll wave to them.

    HELLO!


    I loving this mostest:

    Poetry brought forward
    with style
    On many nights
    went extra mile
    Extremely
    professional too
    Trusted friendship
    that is true blue
    Remember they are
    one of a kind
    Yes, angels here
    to ease our mind
    **PRE-ORDER my 6th novel, PRIDE MUST BE A PLACE now! Releases February 6th, 2018! (LGBTQ Young Adult)
    Get Burn Baby Burn Baby today! Now on the 2016 In the Margins Book Awards List!

    I blog
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    Quote Originally Posted by KTC View Post
    They are probably seeing all the hits and registering where they are from too. I think I'll wave to them.

    HELLO!


    I loving this mostest:

    Poetry brought forward
    with style
    On many nights
    went extra mile
    Extremely
    professional too
    Trusted friendship
    that is true blue
    Remember they are
    one of a kind
    Yes, angels here
    to ease our mind

    Burma Shave
    Cameron Bane

    PITFALL, WildBlue Press

    www.cameronbanebooks.com



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravity View Post
    Burma Shave
    Dang, there went another keyboard. I lose more of those around here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTC View Post
    Disney Princess on LSD!
    That's either the latest headline about Miley Cyrus or a great name for a band.

    Disney Princess on LSD!
    I still poop rainbows.

    I won't steal any of your ideas. I have enough of my own I'm not using.



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    P.F.P has branched out with A Passionately Fair Publisher: http://www.apfpublisher.com/

    $395 dollars or 275 pounds for this your book will be published by using Lulu as the publisher doing whatever is needed to get your book finished and out on sale ...
    ... "proffessional ... editting" not included.

    There's also now the The Writers and Poetry Alliance http://poetryandpublishing.co.uk/
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    "Hmmmm...from the fractured syntax and hot-fart spelling, young Vader seems to have learned well from his PA masters..."
    Cameron Bane

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