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Latest scam agency in the Literary Agency Group scam.

Other scam agencies in this scam group are

The New York Literary Agency
The Christian Literary Agency
The Children's Literary Agency
Stylus Literary Agency
The Screenplay Agency

They were all originally ST Literary Agency. Before that, they were Sydra Techniques.

This is a group out of Boca Raton, Florida (the mailing address in New York City -- [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 275 Madison Avenue, 4th Floor[/FONT] -- is part of the scam -- that's a mail drop). They're owned by Robert M. Fletcher, an adjudged scammer (securities fraud in the state of Washington.)

The Poet's Agency has never in their lives sold a literary property to a commercial publisher.

This agency is an utter fraud.

What will Poet's Literary Agency do for you? They'll betray, bluff, burn, cheat, chisel, con, deceive, delude, diddle, double-cross, dupe, entice, exploit, finesse, flimflam, gyp, have, hoodwink, impose on, jockey, juggle, lure, manipulate, mislead, play, rook, rope in, scam, screw, seduce, shave, snow, stick, string along, suck in, take, take in, and trick you.

What they won't do is sell your work to a commercial publisher. They've been in business for seven years and they haven't managed yet.

I'm going to look at one little thing from their website at http://www.poetsliteraryagency.com/index.html

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We do not charge reading fees or any other type of fee. We get paid when you get paid.
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This is pure BS. They'll charge plenty. They'll send you from one place to another, expecting you to pay a fee each time you land, all of them (the independent evaluations, the professional editors, and so on) owned and operated by Robert Fletcher. If you leave your checkbook in your pocket Fletcher will drop you faster than you can say "criminal conspiracy."

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Our Successes We and our sister agencies have successfully negotiated contracts for a number of titles to date .
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Name them, Bobby. Go ahead and name your successes. Title, author, date. What's the matter? Cat got your tongue?

I'll leave you with this bit:

But it’s unlikely that any great poet ever scribbled off a memorable poem in a single afternoon. The brain just doesn’t work that way.


"Kubla Khan," by Samuel Taylor Coleridge.

Bobby's just proved out of his own mouth that he's not very familiar with poetry.

Fletcher doesn't have the contacts, he doesn't know the people, he doesn't have the background or training, and he's located in Boca Raton, Florida.

Stay away.
 
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To echo others: Oh. My. Gawd.

It figures, though. Half the newbie questions I see are "what agents handle poetry?". Gaah. Pbbbt. May camel spiders infest their bedrolls.
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I got myself involved with poets Literary New York. I'm a poet and wrote my book. I can't start to describe how happy I was when I got my accept from them. Atlast someone, know what I mean? Then my mother warned me about scams, and I googled and found this site. Feeling quite down. Would gladly kick the living .... outta that guy.
 

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Dennis, write to the New York State Attorney General with your complaints about that agency. Be sure to point out that they're part of the ST group presenting themselves falsely as being in New York.

If you know anyone else who contacted any of the ST group, urge them to also write the NY AG.
 

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James D. Macdonald said:
Latest scam agency in the Literary Agency Group scam. ...

This is a group out of Boca Raton, Florida (the mailing address in New York City -- [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 275 Madison Avenue, 4th Floor[/font] -- is part of the scam -- that's a mail drop). They're owned by Robert M. Fletcher, a convicted criminal (securities fraud in the state of Washington.)

They have never in their lives sold a literary property to a commercial publisher.

This agency is an utter fraud.
That's putting it mildly. An agency that specializes in poetry? No way. Legit agents don't do poetry. There's no money in it at all.
 

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Since the trolls and shills have been moving from one thread on Bobby Fletcher's companies to another, I may as well post this now:

For anyone coming in late, the Poets Literary Agency is one of a group of agencies run by Robert (Bobby) Fletcher, who was convicted of fraud*. They are:

Stylus Literary Agency (formerly Sydra Techniques, formerly ST Literary Agency)
http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=929
http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=529

New York Literary Agency
http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=729

The Children’s Literary Agency
http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8312
http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8286

The Christian Literary Agency
http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13514

The Poets Literary Agency
http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19104

The Screenplay Agency
http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20359

The front/mask/umbrella group is The Literary Agency Group, Inc.
http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13517

*http://www.dfi.wa.gov/sd/orders/SDO-063-01.pdf
http://www.dfi.wa.gov/sd/orders/SDO-021-01.pdf
 
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Message Board Citizens- Rebuttal !

Dear Message Board Citizens;

Please take a few minutes to read an important message for writers.

The company has asked me to tell you, in my own words, what I do and to let you know just one aspect of what they do to help writers sell their work.

I work with Sherry Fine, our director of acquisitions, and I am using her login for speed and efficiency with this post. One cavet, I am in phone sales, so if there are grammar or spelling errors in the post, please realize that you are the writer, and that's your job to write 100% correctly, not mine.

See attached Message Board Citizens Rebuttal.

Cordially,

Rey Best
 

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Sherry, Sherry, Sherry...

You're getting awfully lazy. All you need is to cut and paste your 'rebuttal' from the other threads.
 

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Isn't it a bad idea to open attachments and won't most people avoid that? Must not really want that "rebuttal" read. Why the heck couldn't whoever just cut and paste into the reply box??
 

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Of course, I had to open it. I am the opposite of most people in that I get more naive as I age instead of less. The attachment stresses how upstanding the agency is and that they are trusted by publishers because they know Poets Literary will insist on the mss being critiqued and edited continuously. The attachment also announces that the agency is going into the publishing business and will publish "in partnership" with the authors. I wonder how much they're going to charge for that?
 

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Who is "Ray Kyle" then?? That name appears as the "Author" of the document, which is usually the profile name for the user.
 

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Dear Message Board Citizens: My job is to constantly expand the company's relationship of buyers. As you know buyers in large companies change jobs and titles on a regular basis. I've found that about 25%, that's ¼ of the names that you can find in Writers Market, or various public sources are INCORRECT. So, my job is to live on the phone and email. I am paid to call buyers for our authors and for our database of contacts. Basically what I do is take a manuscript and a potential list of 30 buyers, and get on the phone and qualify the list. I call, I make sure that we have the right buyer's name, I check spelling and address, and most importantly, I confirm what they are 'Looking For Now'. When I find a qualified buyer with a need, I immediately communicate that to the Agents, and they aggressively go into our roster of authors to find matches for the buyer. Our materials are very well received by our buyers. Our buyers have learned that we posess one of the most qualified groups of authors in the industry. They know that all of our authors have been formally critiqued and edited. Our buyers know that they can trust what we send them. Our buyers know that we have filtered out the hobbyists from the authors that will do what it takes to succeed. Yes, we tell our authors that they have to reach industry standards.Doesn't every agency do that in one way or another? I can tell you from personal experience how frustrating it is to hear from a buyer that the work we are trying to sell isn't as good a the competing works they are looking at. So, if anything, our agency is becoming MORE demanding that our authors take their work as far as they can from a quality perspective. So, I hope that I have helped you see one aspect of an Agents job. The company spends a lot of money paying me to do nothing but find buyers and qualify them. And when I read this ongoing thread with all these bad words, written by people that have only sour grapes to say, I just wanted to let you know that "it isn’t so". Also, I can assure you that this company isn't a scam. I've known the principals for years and they do the best they can for their authors. They also pay their bills on a regular basis and they are beginning to acquire other companies in the industry.Here's a question… if a literary agency buys a publishing company so that they can publish or partner books they believe in, is that a conflict of interest?========================================I can tell you right now that the company is participating in a new business model. We're promoting a joint venture where we have put up $2500 in partnership with the author and the publisher to get the book out the door. That's unique! And that's how much we believe in what we are doing. The ad is in the PMA newsletter and has been for 4 months.A copy of the ad can be seen using this link.http://www.theliteraryagencygroup.com/pma-literaryagencyad.pdfThis really is important for you to think about. We think that we are the ONLY LITERARY AGENCY that has stepped up to put our own money behind certain authors that we represent. If you can find any other agency that has done this please let me know. This, to me, is brilliant, out of the box thinking that shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that our company is behind our authors.=======================================Furthermore, all this talk about who owns what is rubbish. This is business, and it's a lot like a Darwinian evolution. You either grow or prosper, or you go out of business and you die.If we can sell your work, we do. If we can't, then we will tell you why we think it isn't selling. Usually this means more work, and really, that's what most of the whining on these boards is about. So, in conclusion, the company is real, they've paid me a regular salary for years, and we're putting our heart and soul (and our money) behind our authors. Well, that's all the time I have for this post. Best to you and your writing career. I don't have the time to monitor this post so unfortunately; all the carping that will occur will be ignored. I have a real job to get back to. Cordially, Rey Best
 

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Yeah, the author puts up the other $2,500 and that's all that gets ventured, and for a pod title at that.

Let me get this straight--she cold calls publishers asking who's ready for a book of poems, or is this the whole stable of agencies that are included?

And yes, Sherry ole gal, there is a conflict of interest if YOU ARE hooking up with publishers that are kicking back to your agency.

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As our friends from south of the border say, "bullchit".

And that's to Bouncin' Bobby Fletcher, convicted conman, and his alter egos/sockpuppets Sherry Fine, Rey Best, Fernando Swell, Roy Okey-doke, and for all I know, Lt. Just-Ducky from M*A*S*H. Every mother's son of them is full of more banana oil, goose grease, and just plain crap than these old eyes have ever seen...save for PA's bushwah.

In the words of John Cleese: "Run awayyyy!"

John (who loathes tricksters)

PS: the above-referenced simpletons have yet to sell a book to a commercial house; yep, "revolutionaries" all
 

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sherryfine said:
One cavet, I am in phone sales, so if there are grammar or spelling errors in the post, please realize that you are the writer, and that's your job to write 100% correctly, not mine.

Phone sales, you say?

Care to mention anything you've sold?

Ever?

To anyone?

Line-by-line on the rest of your twaddle soon.
 

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Fine, I promice you this, you dawg. We have over 7,000 members in this group and maybe twice or three times that number who visit and learn from these boards. I can assure of this--everyone of them will spread the news about your slipshod crappola shister game, and those inturn will spread the news.

Until, ultimately, you fold, or end up in prison for fraud. Preferably both.

OUTRAGEOUS!

Tri