The next thing that will happen is that they will tell you that a publisher is interested and they need some money upfront 'for expenses' before they can submit it to them.
WL Children's Agency / Children's Literary Agency
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I just wanted to share this.....
I received a reply from the Literary Agency that CLA refers you to for the crit last week saying that I would get my money back. I replied and gave them a deadline of today.
No money.
Then, this morning, I emailed them and asked again. No reply. So, thank God, I paid them thru PayPal...and I filed a complaint against them through PayPal.
And, it looks like a refund might be heading my way. The transaction lists a
-$78.00 right now; which usually means a refund. So....there might be hope. Oh, I hope so.
I received a reply from the Literary Agency that CLA refers you to for the crit last week saying that I would get my money back. I replied and gave them a deadline of today.
No money.
Then, this morning, I emailed them and asked again. No reply. So, thank God, I paid them thru PayPal...and I filed a complaint against them through PayPal.
And, it looks like a refund might be heading my way. The transaction lists a
-$78.00 right now; which usually means a refund. So....there might be hope. Oh, I hope so.
Just thought I'd share....I got my money back today! I had to escalate a claim through PayPal...but I got a refund today...and it's over. The nightmare is over
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Woo hoo! Congratulations for standing up for yourself and getting positive results. Hopefully this will be a help to others in the future.
I hope so. I only wish that I would've found this thread BEFORE...could've avoided the whole nightmare. Now, I've gotten in the habit of checking here before I send out queries.
Children's Literary Agency
Ever heard of it? I've been told that it's a scam. Just wanted to check before proceeding....
Michal
Ever heard of it? I've been told that it's a scam. Just wanted to check before proceeding....
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Here are two threads dedicated to discussion of the Children's Literary Agency:
http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8286
http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8312
They're also listed here in Writer Beware's 20 Worst Agents list thread:
http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28961
Hope that helps!
http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8286
http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8312
They're also listed here in Writer Beware's 20 Worst Agents list thread:
http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28961
Hope that helps!
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Sorry, but definitely and most emphatically a scam. At the very least, they CAN NOT and WILL NOT manage to place your book with a legitimate publisher.
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What to Do if you Got Nailed by Robert Fletcher...
I hope all of the folks posting here who are complaining about having been scammed by Robert Fletcher in one of the fake "agency" incarnations have written to me to get guidelines on what to do now that you've been scammed.
My email address is [email protected]
Feel free to pass it on to all known victims.
-Ann C. Crispin
Chair, Writer Beware
www.writerbeware.com
I hope all of the folks posting here who are complaining about having been scammed by Robert Fletcher in one of the fake "agency" incarnations have written to me to get guidelines on what to do now that you've been scammed.
My email address is [email protected]
Feel free to pass it on to all known victims.
-Ann C. Crispin
Chair, Writer Beware
www.writerbeware.com
Two years ago I submitting a story to these guys because nothing on the site said anything about money. Two days later I got an email back that said they wanted to work with me, but there was a need for a Critique(Editing)
$80 bucks. I never contacted them again. I've been in the biz twenty years now and it never fails to amaze me how bad agents can sucker so many new writer's.
She is right about one thing, most authors who do have agents are very leery about giving out there agents to people. Now if you've known them for years they may, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Chances are these guys didn't even read you story to begin with. Agents are just as hard to find as publishers.
$80 bucks. I never contacted them again. I've been in the biz twenty years now and it never fails to amaze me how bad agents can sucker so many new writer's.
She is right about one thing, most authors who do have agents are very leery about giving out there agents to people. Now if you've known them for years they may, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Chances are these guys didn't even read you story to begin with. Agents are just as hard to find as publishers.
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Writers Literary Agency
There's a new scam in town: Writers Literary Agency & Marketing Company. They've supposedly "acquired" The Literary Agency Group (home of Sydra Techniques/ST Literary Agency/Stylus Literary Agency/The New York Literary Agency/Christian Literary Agency/Childrens Literary Agency/Poets Literary Agency/The Screenplay Agency).
Same cast of characters, same lack of sales, same fraud.
There's a new scam in town: Writers Literary Agency & Marketing Company. They've supposedly "acquired" The Literary Agency Group (home of Sydra Techniques/ST Literary Agency/Stylus Literary Agency/The New York Literary Agency/Christian Literary Agency/Childrens Literary Agency/Poets Literary Agency/The Screenplay Agency).
Same cast of characters, same lack of sales, same fraud.
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http://www.sfwa.org/beware/twentyworst.htmlThe Childrens Literary Agency has renamed itself as the WL Childrens Agency (The Writers Literary Agency - Children's Division), www.wlchildrensagency.com
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i dont know if this is the right place to ask this question... i have a picture book story. My instructor says that it is what most are looking for but everyone in my book market for children's writers 2007 wants an agent to submit work. i found this site when i used yahoo search engine. has anyone ever heard of them? do you have any suggestions what to do next? new to this....
WRITERS LITERARY CHILDREN'S AGENCY
http://www.wlwritersagency.com/
if this is not the place or i posted something i wasnt suppose to. im sorry. just new to everything...
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i dont know if this is the right place to ask this question... i have a picture book story. My instructor says that it is what most are looking for but everyone in my book market for children's writers 2007 wants an agent to submit work. i found this site when i used yahoo search engine. has anyone ever heard of them? do you have any suggestions what to do next? new to this....
WRITERS LITERARY CHILDREN'S AGENCY
http://www.wlwritersagency.com/
if this is not the place or i posted something i wasnt suppose to. im sorry. just new to everything...
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Short answer: RUN! As far and as fast as you can from them.
Longer answer, read here:
http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34311
http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62493
Longer answer, read here:
http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34311
http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62493
thanks. just as soon as i posted i seen the list and seen that i was to avoid them.....just clueless...
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Short answer: yes, we've heard of them. They haven't sold a book in their lives and they probably won't break their streak by selling yours.
Now What??
I appreciate your input about CLA. I was very nearly duped by them too. It was this blog that made me decide not to send them my manuscript. I was also nearly taken in by Publish America. I am not usually easily fooled and the fact that within a couple of days I nearly bought it twice..... Well I can only say I am totally gun shy now. I am a single mom of 5 children. I work 4 jobs and am barely scraping by. I can't afford to make the wrong choice. Do I need an agent? What publishers should I be approaching?? My book is fully edited (it is a picture book of 1294 words). I know it is a good book and that it is worthy of publishing... I just can't seem to get it started in the right direction. Publish America said I needed to have the book illustrated prior to publishing. I thought legit Publishers make the decisions on who to have illustrate??
Thank you for your time in this,
I hope I can find some answers here
I appreciate your input about CLA. I was very nearly duped by them too. It was this blog that made me decide not to send them my manuscript. I was also nearly taken in by Publish America. I am not usually easily fooled and the fact that within a couple of days I nearly bought it twice..... Well I can only say I am totally gun shy now. I am a single mom of 5 children. I work 4 jobs and am barely scraping by. I can't afford to make the wrong choice. Do I need an agent? What publishers should I be approaching?? My book is fully edited (it is a picture book of 1294 words). I know it is a good book and that it is worthy of publishing... I just can't seem to get it started in the right direction. Publish America said I needed to have the book illustrated prior to publishing. I thought legit Publishers make the decisions on who to have illustrate??
Thank you for your time in this,
I hope I can find some answers here
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I've narrowly escaped being duped by this lot, I was 'saved' tonight by reading your posts!
Thanks folks!
Thanks folks!