When Writers Attack: Alice Hoffman

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When Writers Attack: Alice Hoffman, (obviously) displeased by a negative review of her new novel, The Story Sisters, went ballistic on Twitter, going so far as to publish the reviewer’s phone number. Not unexpectedly, the Internet has turned on her with a vengeance: Galleycat, Reluctant Habits, Gawker , Still Life with Book Maven and The Literary Saloon react.
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from galleycat:


In addition to playing the Famous Writer Card on Twitter, Hoffman also played, among others, the Feminist Card ("Girls are taught to be gracious and keep their mouths shut. We don't have to"), the Provincial Critic Card ("This is a town where a barking dog is the second top story on the news"), the Lousy Paper Card ("No wonder there is no book section in the Globe anymore - they don't care about their readers, why should we care about them"), and the Post Your Enemy's Email & Phone Number Online Card (encouraging fans to further validate her reaction and "tell her what u think of snarky critics").
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Oh, and to answer Hoffman's question—while you were working on your first novel, Property Of, in graduate school in the mid-1970s, Roberta Silman was publishing the short stories that came out of her graduate school work in magazines like the New Yorker and preparing them for a collection called Blood Relations, so you both published your first book-length works of "literary fiction" in 1977... except she had already published a YA novel called Somebody Else's Child the year before that. That's who Roberta Silman is.
 

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Wow. Not very professional.
 
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I love it when authors go batshit.

It's like Anne Rice all over again.
 

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Wow, remind me to never buy a book by Alice Hoffman. It doesn't interest me in the slightest to contribute to the success of a person who behaves like a child.
 

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No one does it better than Anne, though.
 
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D'y'know, this is the first non-vampire-writer hissy fit I've witnessed.

Anne Rice, smeyer, LKH...it's good to see someone from another genre spit the dummy occasionally.
 

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Gosh, it's nice to see writers react to criticism with dignity and professionalismbatshiat screams of outrage.

Thanks for posting all the links, William.
 

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So not everyone is adapting to the social media sea change as well as he or she would like, then.

This is what social media does. Ten years ago, perhaps sooner, big media was a clositered hub of insiders and paid fat cats. The marketing and distribution chains were tightly controlled. The critics that mattered reached millions, not hundreds or thousands.

Twitter instantly reaches millions. Twitter spreads like a virus (if the thing is interesting enough). There is no framework in place to repel bad Twitter (or, for that matter, capitalize on good Twitter). There are still critics that matter, whose reached is prided by publishing houses. But there control of NY Best Seller or bargain basement isn't what it used to be.

Twitter will die or come under some auspices of control soon. And that doesn't mean some have some control of the medium (Star Trek movie used it well), but until then, reactions like these are akin to the Tiger biting Roy. It was a Tiger and it was bound to happen sooner or later.
 

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complaints about criticism and literary feuds are nothing new. you're right, it's the technology that's new. once relegated to cocktail parties and correspondence, bitching about reviews, rejections, etc is now capable of global broadcast.
 

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Capable of global broadcast and entertaining as all hell.

Damn, I love a good trainwreck.
 

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I find it highly embarrassing.
 

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i would imagine she's regretting it.

the "send" or "enter" button doesn't afford the same level of reflection as stamping a letter and dropping it in the box.
 

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Anybody wanna summarize the Anne Rice or SMeyer temper tantrums for me? I must have been living under a rock.
 

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On the other hand, its bringing her book publicity. The James Frey effect.
 
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Anne Rice read bad reviews of one of her vampire novels (Blackwood Farm? Not sure) on Amazon and hellaripped in to said reviewers, saying they didn't understand her, she would never allow anyone to edit her novels, etc.

Stephenie Meyer's novel Midnight Sun was leaked and she went in a huff, threatened never to write another word (like that's a bad thing) and blamed everyone but herself - because it was her who handed out advance copies of the half-written first draft.

Also LKH has banned all negative comments on her site; you're only allowed to praise her, not question her writing, or say you didn't enjoy such-and-such a book. Her novels are little more than vamp-porn now, her female MC a skank. Also she blogs about her personal life then has public shit-fits when readers speculate on same.

So yeah. Seems to be a trait running through the vampire genre.
 

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Hmmm...and all the authors that went nuts are women. Interesting.

I despise Twitter. I think it's stupid.

Then again, I don't have a Twitter account. Or Facebook. Or Myspace.

Then again, I'm not published and famous.

But still, come on! You can't possibly go into the writing business, or any other artistic, creative business, and expect everyone to love you. It isn't like many other jobs where everything is black and white. Writing is completely up for opinion. Some will love your work, some will hate your work. Deal with it. That's the way it goes. And f-in' grow up. Seriously. She goes and cries on Twitter? And then posts Roberta's #? That's just awful. I'd never even post my ex's phone number online where everyone could find it. And I can't stand him.
 

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Also LKH has banned all negative comments on her site; you're only allowed to praise her, not question her writing, or say you didn't enjoy such-and-such a book. Her novels are little more than vamp-porn now, her female MC a skank. Also she blogs about her personal life then has public shit-fits when readers speculate on same.
Can I add that the LKH blog is rife with spelling and grammar errors and the MOST BORING personal information this side of staring at a wall for an hour. "Jon and me went dancing, to spite our sor anckle and nee, and then out for sushi with our freind's." It's laughably terrible.
 

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Wasn't part of it that the review gave away the plot?

I'd be pretty miffed about that, tbh. But not that stupid :D All it would take is an e-mail....

And yeah getting snotty about a review is pointless. Not everyone is going to like you. Get over it.
 

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Hmmm...and all the authors that went nuts are women. Interesting.
V.S. Naipaul has done something similar, and he's a male author of literary work. Maybe someone with better Google-fu than I can find something about that controversy and post a link.
 

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Maybe these writers should get an AW account to toughen their skin.
 

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Maybe these writers should get an AW account to toughen their skin.

Personally I'd subject them to 12 straight hours of /b/. That would separate out the weak and oversensitive (also, human beings)
 

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Anne Rice read bad reviews of one of her vampire novels (Blackwood Farm? Not sure) on Amazon and hellaripped in to said reviewers, saying they didn't understand her, she would never allow anyone to edit her novels, etc.

Stephenie Meyer's novel Midnight Sun was leaked and she went in a huff, threatened never to write another word (like that's a bad thing) and blamed everyone but herself - because it was her who handed out advance copies of the half-written first draft.

Also LKH has banned all negative comments on her site; you're only allowed to praise her, not question her writing, or say you didn't enjoy such-and-such a book. Her novels are little more than vamp-porn now, her female MC a skank. Also she blogs about her personal life then has public shit-fits when readers speculate on same.

So yeah. Seems to be a trait running through the vampire genre.

Thanks Scarlet. Always funny when people throw temper tantrums.
 
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