What counts as 'previously published'?

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Forgive me if this is a dopey question! I've seen on some agents' websites that they don't want anything that's been previously published anywhere, including online. By that I assume they mean they don't want a whole novel that's been up on Wattpad or Royal Road for months. It wouldn't matter if I put a chapter up for critique on a forum like this, would it? Or do you have to keep your whole novel off public forums and just hire beta readers if you want to try to get it traditionally published?
 

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Generally, they mean a part of the internet that does not require a password to access. So critique forums requiring membership to access are okay. But that is a general rule of thumb rather than completely universal.
 

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Generally, they mean a part of the internet that does not require a password to access. So critique forums requiring membership to access are okay. But that is a general rule of thumb rather than completely universal.
Thank you so much. I thought that might be the point of the passwords but wanted to check.
 

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What about poetry? The entire piece appears in the forum. I’ve never submitted a poem for publication and when I look at the various submission guidelines some of them say must not have appeared online or on any website ?
I've submitted poems I had up here (in prompt threads) and never had a problem.
 

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What about poetry? The entire piece appears in the forum. I’ve never submitted a poem for publication and when I look at the various submission guidelines some of them say must not have appeared online or on any website ?
You can always edit your SYW post, or ask the subforum mod for that forum, or a Super or and Admin to remove a post when you've decided to submit or have otherwise gleaned all you can from a SYW thread.
 
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Do articles on professional websites/magazines count?
 

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As previously published, I guess. I would assume websites and professional magazines would count as previously published, but I'm no expert. They're a little different from a critique group behind a password, like AW.
 

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Do articles on professional websites/magazines count?
Yes. If the article is available to be read by the public or by subscribers/magazine purchasers, then it is published. Your contract will state what rights the website/magazine purchased and when/if those rights revert to you.