M.R.J. Le Blanc Reply
There sure is, and the moderators of this board decide what it is, not you.
Thank you.
But no one was tearing him down - Victoria was asking questions about how he managed it. If he chose to take that as an attack or 'tearing him down', well that is his issue.
Agreed, it is his issue. I was only trying to explain that some of things said may have been taken the wrong way, and that emotions become involved. Please do not judge Shane as a whole, based upon that single posting of his.
Unfounded? Maybe not. Appropriate? Not in the least.
I agree again, and that is what I said in my post even. But like so many people in life when emotions are thrown in, logic and rational usually go right out the window. I think that is what happened in this case.
Perhaps, but it shouldn't be up to Shane or any of your authors to defend you. I can certainly understand the feeling, don't get me wrong. But I would hope that neither you nor any good company would be counting on their clients to defend everytime someone questions you.
Shane came to this board and this thread all on his own. Neither Dave or I even knew about this thread about us until it was already underway. We did did not ask Shane to 'defend' our company, he choose to on his own. And I thank him for doing so. Now that we are aware of this thread and the discussion about us, we will gladly answer any questions presented to us. I personaly would ask any of my clients, friends, or customers, to tell me about any bad or damaging rumors, comments, ect, in regards to our company so we can challenge them correctly. But everyone has free will, and Shane felt that needed to say a few things. Not everything said to him was bad, there were good emails sent to him, thanking him and such. We are here to help resolve any outstanding concerns anyone my have about Wandering Sage.
However, if you're going to accuse people of bombarding Shane by email, you better be ready to back that up either by posting them here or sending them privately to a mod.
That kind of a hard thing to do and it's also opening a can of worms which is not my intent either. If we were to start posting emails sent to Shane, someone could easily say "I didn't write that." There is no way for us to certify to the board (or mod) what was said to him. But really, that is still off the topic and I think the better thing to do would be to disregard those communications and move on to a better subject of discussion. Things were said, emotions ran a little over, it happens. I'm ready to move past it and get back on point.
No one was calling him a liar;
Correct, no one bold faced said "Shane, you're a liar." My point was, with how some of the comments were worded, it appeared that way. Text on a fourm does not convey tone of voice, or body language, two very important things we use to determine the valitity of a persons's statement. The persons's mood when reading comments about him on a forum, is a large variable as well. Too many times, things can be taken out of context. I think this is what happened in Shane's regard, he read something, had an emotional reaction it, and went off! It doesn't make it right, but it does happen. That's my point. I hope he will come back to the forum and continue the discussion with us, I've asked him too.
Well, the thread will stay here. Both legitimate companies, amateurs and scammers all have a thread in this forum. It's about having a place to find information. No one's insinuating that you're a scammer by putting your company here; it's about getting info in order to make that determination. It's about keeping people informed. That's all. Just like IceCreamEmpress said, there are all sorts of legitimate companies in this section. Being here doesn't automatically mean a black mark.
Okay, I understand. That was one of my concerns. I'm new to this fourm and have yet to fully understand how everything works. The last thing I want is for anyone to think that Wandering Sage is some kind of scam simply because of threads position on the forum. That was my worry, thank you for putting it at ease.
I do sincerely hope you'll stick around (I only say that because there have been other publishers who say so, then turn tail when hard questions come up). It says a lot for those that do, and it's the best way to 'convince' us as you say that you are legitimate.
Thank you, and we will. We are still a small company in the grand schem of things, and we understand how important it is to have a positive public image and good relations with our clients and authors. As always, Dave and I are happy to address any concerns anyone may have. We strive to remain polite and professional at all times, even when hard nosed questions are asked of us. But we are still human, and make mistakes.
I thank you M.R.J. Le Blanc for the stimulating reply to my post, it's been enjoyable replying to you. Rarely do I find mature people engaged in a good discussion such as this one.
I wish to move past the post made by Shane, I think all has been said about it that needs to be said. I've said it a few times, but I do mean it, if anyone on this forum has any concerns about Wandering Sage and the publishing that we do, please ask.
John Dexheimer
