True Crime in England - a thing?!

editing_for_authors
Editing for authors: because every writer needs a good editor.

MarkEsq

Clever title pending.
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Feb 26, 2005
Messages
3,711
Reaction score
1,139
Age
55
Location
In the wilds of Texas. Actually, the liberal oasi
An interesting project has popped up, a childhood friend of mine turns out to be the Det. Chief Inspector who just solved a 32-year old crime. She's interested in seeing a book written about it but doesn't want to write it herself. It's right in my wheelhouse so I'm thinking about it.

Now, I know true crime is big here in the US but what about in the UK? There are so few murders there, I didn't know whether that meant more or less interest in true crime.

Thanks for any opinions!
 

mirandashell

Banned
Joined
Feb 7, 2010
Messages
16,197
Reaction score
1,889
Location
England
Ermmm.... yeah.... :D

I wish we had so few murders. We kill each other quite a lot, we just don't tend to do it with a gun.

And yes, as OSG said, there's a huge market for true crime. Especially cold cases.
 

Twick

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Oct 16, 2014
Messages
3,291
Reaction score
715
Location
Canada
Britain's sort of the birthplace of true crime writing. For example, in 1827 Thomas de Quincey published "On Murder Considered as one of the Fine Arts".
 

neandermagnon

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Oct 25, 2014
Messages
5,367
Reaction score
2,550
Location
Dorset, UK
Website
cavepeopleandstuff.wordpress.com
So few! :Ssh:

I used to work as a bookseller and can confirm, yes, there is a UK market for true crime.

Ermmm.... yeah.... :D

I wish we had so few murders. We kill each other quite a lot, we just don't tend to do it with a gun.

And yes, as OSG said, there's a huge market for true crime. Especially cold cases.

My thoughts exactly... so few murders... um, yeah... lol

Yeah there's a huge market for that kind of thing over here. We've had more than our fair share of twisted mass murderers. We just have sensible gun laws so people don't randomly shoot each other very often. But things like digging up seemingly peaceful suburban homes and finding lots of bodies... yeah, that happens.
 

mccardey

wear a mask
Kind Benefactor
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Feb 10, 2010
Messages
16,374
Reaction score
9,043
Location
Australia.
Generally true crime in England leads to more pommies in Australia. That's not a bad thing, it's just a thing.
 

Albedo

Cultured vulture
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Dec 17, 2007
Messages
7,027
Reaction score
2,088
Location
A dimension of pure BEES
I have a theory that Ramsay Street, Summer Bay, Walford, Melrose Place, etc. are all built over foci of the ancient drama-field that permeates the Earth. People dwelling over these foci have a much greater chance than others of being caught up in adulterous affairs, murders, explosions, and all sorts of dramatic goings-on.
 

Old Hack

Such a nasty woman
Super Moderator
Absolute Sage
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Jun 12, 2005
Messages
22,453
Reaction score
4,938
Location
In chaos
There's a reasonable market for true crime in England, just as there is in the rest of the UK. From what I remember it's not usually a very lucrative market sector as it's not usual for such books to leap onto the bestseller lists: but it is there. It's quite similar to the "hard lives" sector, though, which is definitely in decline, compared to where it was several years ago.

If you're interested in writing about it remember that non-fiction is usually sold on proposal. You don't need to write the whole thing in order to get a deal. But also remember that true crimes have true victims, who have real families, and there are often legal matters associated with them which make publishing anything without the backup of a major publisher very risky. Take care.
 

steveb47

Registered
Joined
Jun 26, 2016
Messages
19
Reaction score
0
Location
Philippines
Website
www.stephenbentley.info
An interesting project has popped up, a childhood friend of mine turns out to be the Det. Chief Inspector who just solved a 32-year old crime. She's interested in seeing a book written about it but doesn't want to write it herself. It's right in my wheelhouse so I'm thinking about it.

Now, I know true crime is big here in the US but what about in the UK? There are so few murders there, I didn't know whether that meant more or less interest in true crime.

Thanks for any opinions!

"So few murders?" Really? Maybe compared with the US and the bobbies are still in the main unarmed, but the UK has its murder black spots and most of them are drug-related. Yes, we do have a drug problem too :)

I hope you appreciate the Brit humour (not humor). There is a big market in the UK for true crime and not just for books, but also docudramas. Hope that helps.
 

williemeikle

The force is strong in this one.
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Feb 17, 2005
Messages
3,607
Reaction score
547
Location
Canada
Website
www.williammeikle.com
Your thread title says England, your question in the first topic says UK. Is it just England, or the whole of the UK you're talking about?

True Crime can be a big seller. The Moors Murders books in the past especially, or Charles Bronson's bio, or anything about the Krays. It helps if it was a big case, one that was in the news in papers and on TV. Smaller cases aren't so much in the public eye and might not interest a publisher so much.
 

frimble3

Heckuva good sport
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Oct 7, 2006
Messages
9,485
Reaction score
2,442
Location
west coast, canada
Not really relevant to what's selling now, but the first 'true crime' story that I ever read was about the 'Brides in the Bath' murders, about 40 years ago. I don't remember much, except a rather vivid scene where the investigators almost drowned a police-woman while trying to reconstruct how the murders were done.
 

Elizabeth George's book Write Away