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The Newer Never-Ending PublishAmerica / America Star Books Thread

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Same procedure as the last time Macdonald explained it to you:

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PA isn't capable of placing books in stores. Shelf space is a valuable commodity, so bookstores won't even take most PA books as giveaways. Best you could hope for is one copy on the Local Author shelf.
 

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Wanda, please forward your email from PA to me at [email protected] .

By the way, why isn't PA placing books in bookstores to begin with? Wouldn't PA and its authors make more money together doing it that way?
 
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dave, i sent the email to you, you can copy it to here, because if i do it the other way all it copies is my email addreses to here/
 

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Here is the PA email referenced above with only the writer's name redacted. All else is untouched.
From: PublishAmerica Author Support <[email protected]>
Subject: Your Book In Your Local Bookstore Next Week
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 3:04 PM


Dear Author:

PublishAmerica will put your book in your local bookstore!

As many copies as you determine! Imagine, Christmas shoppers flocking to bookstores, and the book they find displayed there is yours!

With the holiday sales season around the corner, we are ready to donate your book to your bookstore. We're not waiting for them to order it. They may put up your book for sale any way they want, highlighting you as a local author, stacking it on a front table, selling it next to the register, or any other way they choose.

Do you want us to donate the book to your local library instead? We're ready to do that as well.

Here's how we do it:

If you want to have books on hand, may now order any number of books
you need, and PublishAmerica will match the order. We will donate the
exact same number of books to your local bookstore. In fact, we won't
even charge the bookstore for the shipping!
And you receive a 40 pct discount!

Example: you order 20 copies, we print 40. We ship your 20 copies to you, and the same day we ship an additional 20 books to your local bookstore, for FREE.


Go to www.publishamerica.net, find your book, click on it, then add to cart, indicate quantity, and use this coupon: Bookstore40. Then click Recalculate and finish the transaction. Minimum volume is 12 copies.
Want fewer books? Then use this coupon: Bookstore30. No minimum volume requirement here. This will give you a discount of 30 pct, and we'll still donate as many books to the bookstore as you order for yourself.

In the Ordering Instructions field, be sure to indicate the name and address
of your local bookstore or library. We will ship your books there the same day
we ship your order to you. By using the coupon you are authorizing us to
match your order and donate the books. You may also request that we ship
the FREE books to you instead.


U.S. stores and libraries only. Full-color and hardcovers excluded. Offer expires this weekend on Sunday night.

Thank you,
PublishAmerica Author Support Team
 

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Thank you Dave for doing that. Isn't that a scam, to try and still make money. Wonder how many will fall for this one? I won't what would you do with number of books anyway? No bookstore will let you in their door whether they are donated are not with a Pa book. I know this, I ask [email protected] in my hometown. They said no, get a new publisher, and we will carry your book. That's what I am going to do.
 
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Okay, I have seen many "You've got to be kidding" e-mails from PA up here. I have boggled at the thought of Miranda Prather scratching her own face to impress a woman. I have seen some hilarious posts coming and going from the message boards. But this has got to beat all. Paying somebody else to make a donation to a business?

It's like...feeding your pet alligator disposable diapers. It's like wearing your ice cream cones after labor day. It's like unlocking your coffee cake with a sponge.
 

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Notice they don't say how they'll convince the bookstore to stock said books, or how they'll convince them to give up commercial space for 20 books, or what "local" means for those with no bookstore in their hometown.

They say they'll ship the books, without order, to a local bookstore. Maybe it's me, but I see the person stocking the store to see an unordered box of 20 books from an author they've never heard of, with a maybe not so great cover, they'll call the publisher and either get no answer or an over-the-phone shrug of the shoulders and no offer to take them back. So they're stuck with 20 books they can't stock, can't sell, and can't return.

(especially for those with store policies prohibiting the manager from stocking POD titles.)
 

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Notice they don't say how they'll convince the bookstore to stock said books. . .
Odds are that PA will never send any such books, claiming (if asked) that the bookstore lost them. If they DO send any, they'll be trashed or fobbed off on Goodwill or the like, as unsolicited and unsaleable.

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That's why I wanted the email here, so that people could see these things that I get each week. Most are similar to these. I don't have a local bookstore. [email protected] in the next town over is the bookstore that I went in, and it's a big town where a college is. I was told that even if I bought the books myself there, I still counldn't do a book signing. They do not want their booksin their store or on their property, I am sure most think the same way that this one does, so why would Pa even offer to donate anything to a bookstore, when they know that they dont like them. Its just another scam, and way to make money off of us. I wish someone could think of something to do to Pa to show them we know this. Another Atlanta Nights. I really woud like for someone to buy 5 copies, that they know they could already get rid of themselfves to friends and see if Pa would actually donate those books there, on a certain day.
 

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Odds are that PA will never send any such books, claiming (if asked) that the bookstore lost them.
Since we've seen PA authors post on the PAMB about problems getting their own paid book orders, this is indeed a worry.
 

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Not to forget mentioning but how will the writers fare when it comes to royalties on the "donated" books to bookstores? After all, if the store sells the books, wouldn't the author be entitled to royalties?
 

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Naturally show up there. If nothing esle you could always buy your book as a christmas present, I am mean GEEEEEE youa rent going to get paid anyway. How would you get paid royalties on a donated book anyway? Just throwing that new thought out there, like we wouldnt think of that ourselfves, be sitting here in feb waiting to get a royalty check on a donated book. Theyhave really sunk low now. All of you should be laughing about that one, didnt think that I could come up with that question to throw out there and make everyone think about that. You cant get paid on a book that's donated free.
 

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dave bought up a good point above? How would we get paid. I say that we wouldnt because the bookstore would consider them as donations and whatever they made off of them, they will not tell Pa and we will not get paid. YET AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!! really ticks me off. So if Pa were to actually donate say15 books, not that I believe they would, I don't. The bookstore could sell them for 15.00 a piece if they wanted to and make a clear profit, we wouldnt see any of that money, and be stuck with the 15 books that we bought ourselfves. God They must think we are all stupid.
 

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Let's also remember that will put the bookstore and author into direct competition with each other with the writer at a disadvantage because the writer underwrote both parties and the bookstore at a distinct advantage because they don't have to sell any to break even. Why would anyone in the general reading public purchase from the author if they can obtain the same book for much less from the bookstore?
 

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It's sort of a large scale version of the "reverse shoplifting" idea that was on the PAMB a while back - sneak your book onto the shelf when no one's looking. It won't be in the system, but Hey! if it's there, and someone takes it to the counter, they have to sell it. Right? Right??? Right?!!!
 

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Who gets stuck for the shipping cost of these books? You know it won't be PublishAmerica. So the author pays for the books, pays for the shipping costs, and gets no royalties (since books are being donated to the bookstore). PA most likely gets some kind of tax write-off for their donation and the bookstore ends up chucking the books into the dumpster out back. Great idea, PublishAmerica!!! ** rolling my eyes ** The only one who stands to gain anything with this plan is PublishAmerica, as always.
 

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Who gets stuck for the shipping cost of these books? You know it won't be PublishAmerica. So the author pays for the books, pays for the shipping costs, and gets no royalties (since books are being donated to the bookstore). PA most likely gets some kind of tax write-off for their donation and the bookstore ends up chucking the books into the dumpster out back. Great idea, PublishAmerica!!! ** rolling my eyes ** The only one who stands to gain anything with this plan is PublishAmerica, as always.

Maybe that's the secret. Maybe they get $24.95, or whatever they're charging nowadays, as a tax write off, when the actual cost to themselves is completely covered by the shipping and handling charges. But this wouldn't apply to donations to bookstores, just libraries or other qualified charities.
 

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I like the tax write off idea.

But just for a second, let's all think like scruple-free scumbags:

Say a writer orders 20 books, pays for them, and PA just "forgets" to ship the other 20 to the store.

I'm sure there are tons of excuses already on the office whiteboard relating to "lost in shipping, inundated with orders, lost in shipping, the bookstore is lying, lost in shipping", and "you owe us an apology."

How can anyone outside the PA offices prove a negative like that? I doubt PA would produce a shipping receipt unless they get slammed with a court order, which won't happen.

The writer paid for his 20 books, and with no money lost on the "donated" 20--as they're very likely imaginary--it's quite easy for PA to get away with this.


In fact, we won't even charge the bookstore for the shipping! And you receive a 40 pct discount!

Example: you order 20 copies, we print 40. We ship your 20 copies to you, and the same day we ship an additional 20 books to your local bookstore, for FREE.

When the hell have they EVER been that generous?

Never.

So I doubt any books will be shipped to any bookstore. PA writers--good luck trying to contact your PA editor as this one goes south.

The writer can contact the store manager, who can only say, "We didn't get anything in, sorry."

PA is
still richer for the cost of 20 books sold (plus 3.99 shipping charges for EACH, I suppose) times however many of their writer victims fall for this latest bit of "marketing."

It's slimy, but brilliant.

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Its just one more gimmick for them to make money. And the author is going to get nothing as usual. I mean really, if the bookstore can sell their free donated copy for 10.00 and we have to sell ours for 30.00 because we paid 24.95 plus shipping, then who will sell more copies. They will. But in the end Pa will still have gotten money from us. think about it, the donated copies cost them nothing to print at all. If they really even do that, after all no bookstore doesnt know anything about donated copies are on the way from a author they have never heard of at all. Pa is still making money the same way they always have through us. I think they only need one office at Pa. That way Larry and Miranda can sit there together to come up with all the scams that they do, must be all they use their brain for.
 

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I hope that after this email is posted others will see this, before signing the contract and it will stop them before its too late. Or if nothing else, it will stop them from buying any amount of books from this scam. I guess we can all hope for that. I wonder if everyone got the same email that I did or did they send several different ones out this am.