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Just throwing in my two cents

I posted a bit about this on the "Tales from the Snark Side" blog, but I just wanted to clarify that not every author at Silver is there because they want to be. Because I'm not a huge seller with them, they've actually been able to keep up with my payments (as far as I can tell, at least).

I did ask for my rights back, and I received the same offer of buying out my contract. I sent him another e-mail asking why some authors were granted their rights back without anything being asked in returned when their contracts also weren't being breached. I told him I spoke personally with several authors and due to their stories as well as all of the public blog accounts I felt that Silver was a sinking ship and I no longer had faith in the company.

This time, he sent me a very long e-mail admonishing me for believing rumors instead of my own personal experience with the company. He called the statements made by dissatisfied authors "propaganda." He said no one but the employees of the company have access to the facts, so they're the only ones who could give me accurate accounts of the financial situation. Why didn't I come to them with my questions? They support me, why can't I support them? There is no proof to support these authors' claims. Etc.

Needless to say, my last e-mail (ever) to him wasn't as polite as it could have been.

But I don't have a legal leg to stand on. I'm in limbo. I don't see the point in making a lot of noise about it--legally, they're in the right--but I certainly don't support Silver. I think there are a lot of authors in my position who are getting grouped in with those misguided authors who have basically become fangirls/boys of the company. We're with them, but we're not with them.
 

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The reason he reacted the way he did is because Silver is a sinking ship, and he realized by allowing people to walk off with their rights, he was losing the very books he needed to sell to keep making money. That's when he stopped giving rights back without strings attached. That's why he is being nasty to the others now. Because he is sinking, he has not much to sell and subs are down because the news about Silver is leaking.

I do not see how he can stay afloat for any length of time. I am grateful I only have one story left, and that one is not mine alone, but it won't be renewed when it comes up later this year. As for money owed? Who knows? Now he says I'm overpaid. Can I prove it? Of course not.
 

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Well, to update as of today I've received three monthly payments for third quarter of last year. I figure I'm short of half of what is owed for the third quarter by about five hundred dollars. So still around $2,000 outstanding for that quarter alone. No idea what I'm owed for fourth quarter which is now due to be paid. I have no other information. Or insight. Or whatever. At this point it'll be a couple of years before I'm paid off. I know that a couple of other former authors are receiving similar payments. I don't know what remaining authors are receiving.

editing in: I've received exactly a third of what's owed from third quarter. Nothing from fourth to my knowledge but with two thousand still outstanding from third does it even matter?
 
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Clarifiying Some Evident Confusion

We all know the mess that's going on regarding Silver but people are apparently confusing Silver with Liquid Silver Books. They are not the same companies nor is there a connection of any sort between them.

There were a few authors talking on a forum elsewhere who thought the companies were one and the same. This is absolutely untrue. Here is the thread for Liquid Silver Books.

The folks at LSB are great to work with and pay like clockwork.
 

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Has anyone received Q4 3rd party sales money yet, or seen the Q2 statements, which would have the Q4 figures from 3rd party sites? I did receive Q3 Amazon monies back in May. Based on those figures, he owes me a substantially larger amount for Q4 and I think August is high time to get money I earned off sales made in October, November, and December.

The policy of crediting the money he gets from Amazon on an author's behalf into that author's sales from the quarter HE receives the money, then holding it for disbursal until the following quarter, is very likely where all his issues arose. All that cash floating around for ninety days--or longer, since he long maintained Amazon was running a month or more late paying HIM-- is what gave him the idea he had cash on hand to 'help Silver grow'.
 

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Does anybody know where this ended up?

Yes.

I don't know how true it is, but one of my friends on Facebook is an author of Silver Publishing and they posted the following:

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It's honestly a shame =/


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"I wasn't going to say anything but I have bad news. Lodewyk Deysel - publisher of Silver Publishing has fled the country. He went to South Africa on Tuesday. A former employee took him to the airport. She had no idea this was going on. He called her Saturday midnight. He told her he needed to leave town in a hurry. She sold his RV for him yesterday. He has moved out of his house and his stuff is gone. Goodbye royalties. I hope he has paid his staff. She said he left town with $80 in his pocket."
 
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Edit: In case the image didn't show up:

"I wasn't going to say anything but I have bad news. Lodewyk Deysel - publisher of Silver Publishing has fled the country. He went to South Africa on Tuesday. A former employee took him to the airport. She had no idea this was going on. He called her Saturday midnight. He told her he needed to leave town in a hurry. She sold his RV for him yesterday. He has moved out of his house and his stuff is gone. Goodbye royalties. I hope he has paid his staff. She said he left town with $80 in his pocket."

Doesn't shock me. Apparently, authors were sent an email a few days ago that Silver had been sold. But it sounded fishy because the address, etc. were all the same when supposedly the new owners were elsewhere. It's deep (the lies). Bottom line is a lot of people have been screwed over, authors and editors. And the shame of it is that a lot of authors might not get their rights back.
 
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If that's all true, and I have no reason to doubt it, then Lodewyk Deysel also opened another publishing company in July 2013. I keep an eye out for M/M presses, and Gia Press popped up last summer. I tried to find out more about it and who was behind it, but all I could find was that it was registered to Empire Entertainment, at the same address listed in Llewellyn's post in Cheyenne, Wyoming. I chalked it up as a place to watch and left it at that.

They don't have any books or authors, so it seems a dead end, but it's probably important to link the two so that people have warning about Gia too.

Link is here: http://www.giapress.com/
 

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Silver Publishing has been closed down by its' authors!

Over the last few days, AJ Llewellyn, myself and a few others have taken down Silver Publishing. Please go to AJ Llewellyns blog for more info. http://www.ajllewellyn.com/site/

Everyone needs to read it and be aware. WE ensured that ALL writers had their rights returned to them before we brought in the authorities. If you're interested in reading all about this, you may visit my facebook page and A.J.s blog. Thanks. D.J. Manly.
 

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That's an amazing story. It's one of those things people tell you and then say you can't make this stuff up.