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This brand spankin' new publisher got on my radar because Victoria Strauss of Writer Beware posted about them on Twitter. Apparently they offered a contract to a writer, then withdrew it because they are overcommitted. A pissing contest has ensued.

The press does not yet appear to have a website. Their published link to the website leads to a 404 error page. They do, however, have a Query Manager submission page (they are, unsurprisingly, closed to queries at the moment), a Facebook page and a Twitter account. Their Facebook page has only been extant since July; their Twitter account shows a February 2012 join date.

Their Twitter account (which seems to be the most active of their social media sites) states that they are "a queer owned, groundbreaking indie publisher." According to their Facebook page, the press was founded by Elle Mackenzie and Nick Starling. When I Googled the duo, the first thing that popped up was a failed 2021 GoFundMe started by Mackenzie for Starling, because he could not afford top surgery following a recent move to Arizona, where Mackenzie resides. The GFM page states that Mackenzie and Starling are partners and co-authors. I searched Amazon and found a single short story by Mackenzie, published in 2020, which appears to be self-published (the author is also credited with the cover design). I couldn't find any books/stories by Nick Starling, although apparently he self-published successfully under a different name. Mackenzie's Amazon author bio states that she is studying psychology at ASU (I assume this is Arizona State University) - or at least, she was when the bio was written two years ago. Neither Starling nor Mackenzie have a LinkedIn listing, so there's no way of checking to see if either has a background or experience in trade publishing. (ETA: based on their bios, which I found in the complaining author's Twitter feed, neither principal has trade publishing experience or education.)

Since both principals appear to reside in Arizona, and since the Twitter account also shows an Arizona base, I search the Arizona corporate records for Sage & Sparrow Publishing. I could not find a listing, which either means they're incorporated elsewhere, or not incorporated at all. 😬

Regardless, they appear to have signed a number of hopeful authors. All I can say is that I hope their contracts contain a solid rights reversion clause.
 
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Oh, man... I grieve in advance for authors so hopeful of "real publication" that they don't do even the lightest research on who these fabulous people are who want their book/story, much less actual due diligence. They're going to get burned, quite possibly lose their rights to their own writing, because of it.

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Going all the way back on their twitter, their earliest post is a retweet Agusut of last year from Jacqueline Dial (she's got an Amazon Vella series but nothing else)(but also not seeing any RTs of Sage and Sparrow's tweets so???? idk the connection there). Their first post THEY actually made is June 5 of this year. The fact that they have 16 K followers already (and that the account was first made in 2012) makes me believe they were originally some other account and then switched over to this, forcing people to follow this "new" account they have no say in.

This is also Sage and Sparrow's pinned tweet, which is from ~2 hours ago, which 🤔


"Throw a tantrum" okay, very professional
 

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Did a little more digging, and what happened went as follows:
This is all very 🍿👀 thank you for bringing this to my attention
 

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Further reading of the Twitter flame war unroll shows that there was a website at some point, but it was taken down fairly recently.

I do not think this pair have the first clue how to run a hot dog stand, much less a publishing company.
 

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Their Facebook page is gone as well.

Twitter is still full of writers talking about the crazy contract terms they claim S&S offered. If ANY of it is true, I'm so glad this press went down in flames before publishing anything.
 
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I've run across a women's accessories company, a retro western wear line, and a doula and birth service with the same name. There is also a furniture line and a Georgia-based boutique called Sparrow & Sage, an Etsy shop called Sage Sparrow, and a holistic skincare company called the Alchemy of Sage's Sparrow.

The combination seems to resonate with a lot of people.
 
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I've run across a women's accessories company, a retro western wear line, and a doula and birth service with the same name. There is also a furniture line and a Georgia-based boutique called Sparrow & Sage, an Etsy shop called Sage Sparrow, and a holistic skincare company called the Alchemy of Sage's Sparrow.

The combination seems to resonate with a lot of people.
Interesting!
 

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Cheering you all on!
I mean, Sages are awesome, obviously, but why Sparrow when the founder is named Starling? :Huh:
 
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Because starlings are active pests damaging crops and gardens. The only starling I like is Clarice.