"I spent zero in advertising for him."
So... what's the advantage in having Ridan for a publisher if you've done nothing for him to increase sales?
LOL - Seriously....you think just because I didn't
spend money I didn't do anything? Do you know how many ways there are to use the Internet (
FREE) to promote authors? Come on people - read my posts. I don't spend money...I use my brains, my hardwork, and the Internet to promote my authors. It cost nothing but my time - and I have to spend a lot of that to build a platform for the authors. In some cases (Marshall) I'm all that's doing it. In others, like Nathan and Michael, the authors are helping as well.
Remember the old saying: Work smater not harder. Well I do work hard but not spending thousands of dollars is smart - best way to ensure a good ROI is to have a small investment.
I've done a full 180 on this place. I thought it might not be a good bet, but now I think it is.
I think Robin is saying that since she ran a marketing company, she knows what she's doing and doesn't need to spend money to increase sales, she exploits other avenues that others might not realize. Given the numbers she's producing, which is quite a lot better than, well, any epublisher or POD publisher I've seen, I think she's validated the worth of her company.
Thank you Sydewinder - I really appreciate that you "get" what I've been trying to say here.
Sydewinder, a lot of us have worked in marketing as well as publishing. Having an up-to-date website is a key part of a good marketing strategy; it's not like anyone's being shortsighted by suggesting that it's important. Only Robin can decide which tasks to prioritize, of course, and she's going to work to her schedule, not ours. Still, suggesting that people's critiques of that are naive or ill-informed doesn't hold water to me.
I never said their criticism of my outdated website was ill-informed. I just had 3 REALLY big projects that were ahead of it. But now those projects are done, the website is updated and I think we can move on to any other area about my business that people have issues with or questions on. I'm more than willing to discuss things here. I'm not hiding anything from anyone.
I'm sure I'm not the only one, but I know an author with a big publisher who does most of his own marketing.
Good point Kmarshall in the new world order of publishing an author SHOULD and in many cases is REQUIRED to help promote their books (You should see what is in Michael's Hachette Contract).
I personally think that no matter who you publish through, small press, big-six, or self you HAVE to promote yourself.
Now...that being the case. I totally don't understand publishers that bring on authors and don't market them. It's not doing them or the authors any good. Because my background is marketing that is one of the strengths I bring to the authors at Ridan and one of the reasons (I think) that they are able to sell thousands of books each month.
Hi Robin. FYI, I sent you a private message.
Thanks for letting me know - I don't always see them - I sent you a PM back - with my cell and email address - I'm in NY today (DIY of BEA) but need to be back in DC for a panel I'm doing at the SWFA Nebula Awards Weekend. But I'll be back in NY late Sunday evening and though Thursday.