I agree. The 'two cowboys' cover also caught my eye as being out of scale. It looked as if the horses could as easily step off that cliff as step off a sidewalk curb.
My overall feel for this publisher is: Amateur. Their website, their covers, and after looking at a few first chapters from Amazon, their editing.
It's not the quality of the prose being discussed here, but I admire the loyalty shown from the deep benches. It's the quality of the publisher that's up for consideration. I can't tell half the writers from half the publishers. Comments like: We are new at this. We? As writer, or part-publisher? If posters can indicate what role they play in the publishing house, it'd be helpful. I'm neither published with Wamm, nor do I have any business affiliation with them, nor do I know any of their authors. I've looked at their website, their covers, and have read the first 5 chapters of some of their novels on Amazon.
Someone mentioned they had a WAMM book in hand and were "lookin' at a copy right now." Is that a print copy, or Kindle? In your opinion, how is the formatting, cover, print, editing? Is this publisher a good bet for literary fiction and/or genre writers? In your opinion?
I just came back to this because I thought you may have asked more questions I should answer, but in reading this, I see I don't need to answer much. I found much of this post condescending and harshly vague still.
I'm so glad you admire my loyalty.
thanks.
As I said, I'm an author, not part of the publishing side of anything. They are new, they are growing, they are staying within their means. They did not start this business with big capital. All I can tell you is to wait a year, which is the advice Jim and Old Hack have already given, so I'm unsure why I have to repeat it. They are new. They've only been doing this for a year. Wait a year and see how they look. They may still not be the publisher for you, which is fine too. It's a big industry. I will say that no matter your concerns about how they look to you, you cannot possibly doubt that they are an honest and well-intentioned publisher with straight-forward business practices.
I am curious how you say it's not the writing but the editing that you find amateur. Can you explain how the editing looks amateur (and as you stated, how that isn't a reflection on the writing)?
While you think about that, let me go on.
You commented once that the books I've sold are to friends and family. That's an assumption, and an unkind one, and you stated it as a fact (and untrue).
You said Unpublishable people started a company and brought their friends along and then friends of friends...assumption, unkind, stated as fact (and untrue).
Then there are the lovely vague digs like "atrocious" and "amateur".
Then the question regarding what our roles are in the publishing house. If you read this thread, then you know I'm just an author, as well as auntybug. Shakey already explained her relationship with them before you asked.
I appreciate that you have questions about them, but you ask them in a way that makes people automatically defensive. I'm not sure what purpose that serves? Do you think you'll get a better answer, or an answer you can pick apart a littler more easily if you skew the questions to be not-quite-insults? I've seen you do this same thing in various other small publisher threads and I can't quite figure out what it is you're trying to gain and/or prove.
Just in case we are still missing it, I will say it all again. I am an author, I submitted to a publisher. The friend who told me to try them is someone who was published by a different publisher previously (one with a very good reputation), and she preferred WAMM. I knew that they were small and new, but I was comfortable with the risk. I am under no delusions about their reach and their capabilities, but I know they have potential and I'm happy to be along for the ride. They have a generous contract and royalties. They are making changes as they grow, and will continue to. Some of the comments here have been helpful for them and they will absolutely take them into consideration as they move forward. That's what new businesses do.
There was a comment about us not being able to get published other places. I did a reading and signing back in december for a women's group and they asked a lot of questions, one of them was about the benefits of going with a small publisher. Let me tell you what I told them. With agents and larger publishers, they have a bookshelf in a store to think of. If they don't see where that book sits on that shelf, they will turn down even the best written book - marketing is everything. A clear audience is everything. My book doesn't really have a clearly designated shelf. I had known for quite a while that if I really wanted this book to be published I would need a niche publisher. That's exactly what I got. My story has a ghost in it, who happens to be a literary icon, it also has a loanshark, a viet nam vet, it also has a main character going on a road trip to find his way in life. What shelf does it belong on? I had multiple agents tell me the writing was great and I have skill, but they couldn't take the book on. How does an agent "sell" a "not sure what shelf" book? It isn't really a "ghost story", it's not a suspense/thriller, it sort of blurs lines. A Small publisher like WAMM sees good writing and doesn't care about a bookshelf. My book can be quirky and genre-hopping all it wants. Their particular style or niche or level of "quirk" may not be what you are looking for in a publisher and that's fine. For me, I had known going in that it was going to take a small press to manage my book because no matter how well it's written a big publisher has to see the shelf.
So make of it what you will. I've given you everything I can about this publisher and my self with regards to my experience with them. I have been a member of AW for over 6 years, I've submitted to a lot of agents and publishers, I have learned a lot here. I'm not foolish and uneducated, I know the risk with a new business, I liked this publisher for this book. You can say "they're not for me" and that's fine, but they are for me. And yes, you've already said, you don't "know me from Adam", but lots of people here do.
eta: I also wanted to say that I have been a member of this community for over 6 years and a moderator for over 4 of those. You can think what you want about my book cover or how well (or not) that I write, but please know that I take this responsibility to this communinity very seriously and I would
never mislead or lie to the writers here for this publisher or any other. You may not know me, but Mac does and my fellow mods do. You might question if I made a wise choice (I believe my choice was fine), but please don't try to make a judgment on my intentions; it doesn't make any of us look good and we all lose. I gain nothing by your going with this publisher or not, and I have absolutely no reason to puppet for someone to get you to like them. You can discuss this publisher all you want, but make no mistake that it is without doubt, I won't do anything in this forum to harm its writers. I've given a true account of my dealings with them.