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Publishers buy books from novelists and publish them. That's what they do. If a book is salable, then there's no reason for the author to pay to get it published. If a book is not salable and needs the author's money to get published, then bookstores won't carry it, and the publisher will get a reputation as a vanity house. None of the legitimate commercial houses accept pay from new novelists.

As far as Pegasus/Elliot Mackenzie, they do get a "Not Recommended" on Preditors and Editors, and you can read the reasons P & E gives these ratings here. In their case, I suspect the issue is that their promotional material doesn't make it clear upfront that the author has to pay them to get the book into print.

If you really don't care if stores carry your book and just want a nice paper copy, then there are other options that will be honest and upfront about what they do and how much it will cost you.
 

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Have people actually examined their site? I mean the books look fine and good quality to me and people only seem to like to look at the negative and not the entire story (excuse the pun) Have a look at this;
http://living.scotsman.com/books/Writing-career-kicks-off.3682218.jp

Why does everyone assume that other publishers only ever pay for new novelists and take that risk?


Why don't you e-mail the author quoted and ask how much he paid Pegasus and if he thinks it was good value?
 

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My promise to CP :)
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Re: need advise :p
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Hi CP, I was wondering if you could comment on the following email I received from PEM. In your opinion, what do you think my next move should be if you were in my heels .. I mean shoes. :) Gratefully, nic
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from Editors <[email protected]>
to [email protected]
date Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:02 PM
mailed-by pegasuspublishers.com
signed-by pegasuspublishers.com


hide details 10:02 PM (18 hours ago)

Dear Ms Sings Lave,

Re: LIVING BETWEEN LIES

Thank you for your patience regarding this submission.
After much consideration and discussion with senior colleagues at the December Publishing Board meeting, the board decided that unfortunatly, it was unable to offer a Pegasus contract (Non-contributory) on this occasion, but has agreed to accept this work for publication in quality paperback format with certain considerations. I am writing to you with these proposals and would like you to give them your considered opinion. Our proposal is that we could provide you with a Vanguard Press Publishing agreement whereby we would undertake to carry out all editorial work, cover design, registration of the title, printing, binding and extensive promotion and marketing etc for a finacial commitment from you as the author. Full details of this would be stipulated in your contract. We feel this kind of partnership between publisher and author is now becoming common. Your manuscript does need a small amount of editorial input, but we would be able to advise you further, should we reach the contractual stage. In our opinion, your work has the merit to warrant publication under this type of agreement with our Vanguard imprint. We do belive that with our combined efforts your book will acheive the success that deserves, and will be favourably received by the reading public and the media. We would keep your book in print and available on the market for as long as public interest is shown. If you were to consider our proposal, your normal contractual bemnefits would apply, including an enhanced scale of royalty payments. Your decision can be confirmed to us either by a simple letter or by email and then we can have the contracts prepared for your perusal.
We look forward to hearing from you in due course.
Kind regards,
Yours sincerly,
David (Newstead),
Editorial.
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Heh. Well, as you learned in the B&BC thread, Pegasus is a vanity publisher. This is their standard bait-and-switch come-on: "We don't believe in your book enough to publish it, but if you pay us, we'll be happy to print it for you...."

My response, if any, would be a polite "no, thanks".

Oh, and please post this letter in their thread to show folks just what a game they play.
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I'm not sure that I can translate Silkyred's statement, but I believe he's asking why people expect to be paid for their writing.

Personally, all I can do is go by prior experience and state that everything I've had published (and one novel that was accepted before the publisher went under), I've been paid for. That includes short stories, novellas and novels.

I consider myself a professional and expect to be treated as such. Any publisher that doesn't see me in that capacity is a publisher I do NOT want to deal with.
 

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I'm not sure that I can translate Silkyred's statement, but I believe he's asking why people expect to be paid for their writing.

Yeah, that was my guess, too, but I wanted to be sure.

When someone comes here, straight to this part of the board, making ambiguous statements about why writers shouldn't expect to have their work treated with respect, or how only well-connected celebrities ever get published, or how pay-to-play is the only way new authors will ever "get a foot in the door", or how no publisher/agent takes on new writers, or ...

Right, I could go on, but the point is, when someone does that, it usually turns out to be the faux publisher/agent him/herself, come to defend their practices.
 

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As promised, here's the vanity contract I received from PMS. They want 3100 gbp for this. Though the sum is not a lot, it's still quite bit for a poor gurl like me.
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DATE

Dear AUTHOR X,

Re:- XXX

Thank you for requesting to view the Vanguard Press publishing contracts, and for your patience. If you are now in agreement, the course of production will take place in the usual manner. You will be requested to inspect a minimum of two sets of proofs for the book, to provide an idea for the cover, a ‘blurb’ for the back page of the book and another about you as the author, for inclusion inside the cover etc. Should you wish to stagger your payments, we offer credit card instalments, over a period of up to ten months, (negotiable), our Accounts Department would be pleased to discuss this with you.

I trust that I have covered all possible points but should you need clarification, or, if there is another point you wish to have clearly defined, please don't hesitate to contact me and I shall be pleased to discuss the matter with you.

It would also be useful for you to view our web site at www.pegasuspublishers.com


If you are now in agreement, you should sign both copies of the contract, initialling every page. Then please retain one for your own records, and return the other copy to me. We look forward to the possibility of working with you in the publishing of this manuscript.

Best regards,
Yours sincerely,
David Newstead,
Editorial.





Promotion and Marketing Outline
An Advance Information Sheet (AI) to be prepared and sent to wholesalers, book buyers for high street chains and specialist outlets as well as local and online bookshops. A Press release to be targeted at the relevant national and specialist press, as well as the author’s local media and other organisations that may be interested. Review copies of the book will also be sent where requested or is thought appropriate. Promotional materials, such as flyers, posters and bookmarks are generated and made available to booksellers and other organisations. A supply of these materials will also be sent to the author for their own use. The author and their book will be featured on our web site and will include news, press reviews (if any) and photographs. We can also include a link to the author’s own web site. On publication, copies of the book are supplied to the five Copyright Libraries in the UK. Our books are available through most online bookstores, including Amazon.co.uk where copies will be held in stock, Waterstones.co.uk, WHSmith.co.uk, and Tesco.com, and will also be part of the Google Book Search programme. In addition your book will be available from UK and international bookshops, either from stock or on order. All of our titles are stocked by Gardner’s Books, the UK’s largest wholesalers, who are suppliers to book chains such as WH Smith and Waterstone’s, and many bookshops around the world. The author’s enthusiasm can help to increase the chances of success, so the author will be asked to provide, where possible, details of any useful contacts they may have or specialist media who may show an interest in their work. These contacts will then be considered. We cannot, nor can anyone, guarantee sales of your book through our marketing activities, but with no marketing by either party, chances of sales would be greatly reduced.
This is a basic outline of our promotion and marketing activities and does not necessarily constitute the overall marketing plan for your book.


VANGUARD PRESS
Publishing Contract


This AGREEMENT is made this DATE

AUTHOR X
ADDRESS X


Hereinafter called the AUTHOR


And


Vanguard Press
Sheraton House
Castle Park
Cambridge
CB3 OAX
ENGLAND


Hereinafter called the PUBLISHER


Vanguard Press, an imprint of Pegasus Elliot Mackenzie Publishers Ltd.


The AUTHOR warrants to being the owner of the copyright in the literary work at present known as

XXX


Hereinafter called the WORK, and the PUBLISHER agrees to publish the WORK in accordance with the following terms and conditions which are here by mutually and freely agreed between the PUBLISHER and the AUTHOR.



1 WARRANTY MADE BY THE AUTHOR TO THE PUBLISHER
The AUTHOR warrants that there has been no granting of any interest in the copyright of the WORK by licence or otherwise to any person or company or firm. The AUTHOR further declares that the WORK has not been previously published but that if it has been published, that it remains the property of the AUTHOR, who has retained said copyright. The AUTHOR grants to The PUBLISHER the sole right to publish and offer for sale the WORK and the sole right to negotiate in respect of subsidiary rights as set out in subsequent paragraphs. In the event of the publisher not exercising the option to publish further, the AUTHOR has the full right to approach other publishers.

2 COPYRIGHT AND SUB-LICENSING
Notwithstanding these warranties made by the AUTHOR full copyright remains at all times with the AUTHOR.

The PUBLISHER agrees with the AUTHOR to ensure that all copies of the WORK published by the PUBLISHER bear on the reverse of the title page (for copies published in volume form) and on the packaging and in suitable prominent places on screen or otherwise in vision (for copies published in any Electronic Form) the symbol ©, accompanied by the name of the AUTHOR and the year of first publication of the WORK. The PUBLISHER agrees with the AUTHOR to ensure that the AUTHOR'S name is included prominently on the front cover jacket spine and title page of all volume form copies of the WORK and on the packaging and on screen or otherwise in vision on all Electronic Form versions of the WORK published by the PUBLISHER, and in all publicity and advertisements for the WORK. The PUBLISHER shall ensure that any sub-licence granted by it shall include the following obligations on the part of the sub-licensee:

To ensure that all copies of the WORK published by such sub-licensee shall bear on the reverse of the title page (for copies published in volume form) and on the packaging and in suitable prominent places on screen or otherwise in vision (for copies published in any Electronic Form) the symbol © accompanied by the name of the AUTHOR and the year of first publication of the WORK.

To ensure that all, (if any) copies of the WORK published by such sub-licensee in the United Kingdom shall bear the following notice on the reverse of the title page.
'The right of AUTHOR to be identified as the AUTHOR of this WORK has been asserted in accordance with Sections 77 and 78 of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988'

To ensure that all copies of the WORK published by such sub-licensee shall include the AUTHOR'S name prominently on the front cover jacket spine and title page of volume form copies and on the packaging and on screen or otherwise in vision on all Electronic Form versions of the WORK and to include the AUTHOR'S name prominently in all publicity and advertisements for the WORK.

3 WARRANTY INFRINGEMENT
The AUTHOR warrants that the WORK contains no libellous or defamatory or other unlawful material and agrees to indemnify the PUBLISHER against any liability in respect of any libellous or defamatory or other unlawful material that may be contained in the WORK.

4 EDITING OF THE MANUSCRIPT
The PUBLISHER shall provide such treatment of the WORK that it is in a style and manner as deemed by him to be most suitable and appropriate to the sale of the WORK, and the PUBLISHER shall make editorial changes of the WORK at his discretion; and the PUBLISHER reserves the right to make any such editorial alterations, amendments or deletions as may be necessary; and also such changes in the event that the content (whether implicitly or explicitly) should appear to incite, prejudice or defame any group or any member thereof either individually or collectively by reason of race, colour, religion or nationality and the PUBLISHER reserves the right to delete or to alter any part of the manuscript that may be obscene, offensive, indecent or libellous, after consultations with the AUTHOR.

5 PRODUCTION PROGRAMME
The PUBLISHER shall produce the WORK in the Publisher's Edition within three hundred and twenty five working days after the final form of the manuscript shall have been delivered to the PUBLISHER and there shall be added to that period such period, if any, during which the production shall have been interrupted by Acts of War, Stoppages of Labour or other Industrial Action, shortages of materials, Fire, Flood or any other factor that may have delayed the production of the said WORK. If the Book shall not have been produced at the end of three hundred and twenty-five working days (the period extended if appropriate) the PUBLISHER shall, at the written request of the AUTHOR, by registered mail, within ninety days of such request, produce the WORK.

6 QUOTING OF COPYRIGHT MATERIAL
If the AUTHOR shall have incorporated in the WORK any copyright material, whether it be text or illustrations, this shall be disclosed to the PUBLISHER, who shall apply on behalf of the AUTHOR but at the Author’s expense, for written permission from the copyright owners to re-publish such copyright material.

7 AUTHOR’S READING OF EDITED MANUSCRIPT
Upon completion of such editorial treatment as may have been made by the PUBLISHER, the PUBLISHER shall provide the AUTHOR with a copy of the edited manuscript for proof reading of printer’s errors and the AUTHOR shall return the manuscript to the PUBLISHER within twenty-one days after receipt of the said proofs. If the AUTHOR fails to return the corrected proofs within twenty-one days the PUBLISHER shall not be held responsible for any delays in the publishing programme occasioned by such failure.

8 PHYSICAL SPECIFICATIONS PRINTING AND BINDING RUNS
The PUBLISHER shall cause the WORK to be set out in clear modern type and shall have absolute discretion as to the format, type-face, style, binding and printing of the WORK and the number of copies from time to time to be printed and bound.

9 AUTHOR'S ALTERATIONS
If the AUTHOR makes any changes or alterations in the proofs which deviate from the edited form of manuscript (other than corrections of printer's errors). If the AUTHOR adds fresh material thereto at any time following the date of signing of this agreement, the PUBLISHER shall be free to exercise discretion regarding such material and the acceptance of such alterations or changes. Any such changes made by the AUTHOR, may, at the discretion of the PUBLISHER, be charged to the AUTHOR.

10 REVIEW COPIES
The PUBLISHER reserves the right to distribute copies of the WORK, to book reviewers of print media (newspapers, magazines) or the media of radio and television, for the purposes of review, criticism and promotion. All matters concerning review copies in respect of the WORK shall be at the discretion of the PUBLISHER.

11 AUTHOR'S COMPLIMENTARY COPIES
The PUBLISHER undertakes to provide the AUTHOR with ten copies of the WORK, completely free of charge and an additional ten copies for the purpose of review and promotion.

12 THE COPYRIGHT ACT
The PUBLISHER shall deliver a copy of the WORK to the British Library in accordance with the law and thus ensure the inclusion of the title in the British National Bibliography; and shall also deliver one copy of the WORK upon demand to the University Libraries at Oxford, Cambridge, Edinburgh and Dublin.

13 AUTHOR'S RIGHT TO PURCHASE COPIES
If the AUTHOR should elect to purchase copies of the WORK in addition to the complimentary copies supplied in accordance with clause 11 supra, of the Agreement, then the AUTHOR shall be entitled to purchase such additional copies at a special discount of THIRTY percent (30 %). It is agreed between the parties that copies of the WORK sold in this manner to the AUTHOR shall not qualify for royalty payments.

14 PROMOTION AND MARKETING
The PUBLISHER shall decide the retail price of the WORK and may, at his discretion, adjust the retail price to facilitate promotion and marketing. The PUBLISHER shall alone have full discretion as to the nature and extent of any promotion and distribution of the WORK, but shall not be held liable for any outlet, declining to accept orders. The PUBLISHER agrees to notify relevant areas of the trade of the impending release of the work. This notification will take place six to twelve weeks prior to publication. The extent of this process is at the discretion of the PUBLISHER.

15 FEES
It is agreed that the AUTHOR shall, in consideration of the undertakings, services and expenditures made on the part of the PUBLISHER, in accordance with the terms of this Agreement contained herein, pay to the PUBLISHER the sum of £3100 for the publication of the WORK. If the PUBLISHER should fail to publish the WORK as specified in clause 5 supra, the AUTHOR shall be entitled to a full and complete reimbursement of this payment within thirty (30) working days of the said failure. The AUTHOR agrees to pay the above sum within ten (10) months (negotiable) of signing the contract.

16 ROYALTIES
The PUBLISHER for his part agrees to pay, to the AUTHOR, royalties as follows: Subject to the terms and conditions set out in this Agreement, the PUBLISHER shall pay to the AUTHOR the following payments in respect of the WORK sold:

• Home Sales: a royalty of EIGHTEEN PER CENT (18 %) of the net sales price on the first 8000 COPIES SOLD; and FOURTEEN per cent (14 %) of the net sales price on all sales over 8000 copies.

• Export Sales: a royalty of FIFTEEN PER CENT (15 %) of net amounts received;

17 SUBSIDIARY RIGHTS
Upon the PUBLISHER arranging subsidiary rights in respect of the said WORK, he shall pay to the AUTHOR the following percentages of the gross amount he receives.

Quotation rights fifty per cent (50 %);
Anthology rights fifty per cent (50 %);
Translation rights fifty per cent (50 %);
English language reprint rights fifty per cent (50 %);
Mechanical reproduction fifty per cent (50 %);
Electronic & software rights fifty per cent (50 %);
Sound broadcast rights fifty per cent (50 %);
Television reading rights fifty per cent (50 %),
Dramatisation rights fifty per cent (50 %);
Film rights fifty per cent (50 %),
Documentary rights fifty per cent (50 %);
Performance rights fifty per cent (50 %);
Non commercial rights for
Visually handicapped Nil per cent (0 %);


18 COMPLIANCE BY AUTHOR AND PUBLISHER
The PUBLISHER shall perform all the terms and conditions set out in this agreement but shall not be held in default of any provisions of this agreement if the AUTHOR shall not fully have complied with all the terms and conditions of this agreement. Failure by the PUBLISHER to comply with the conditions of this agreement shall be deemed a breach of the said agreement only if the AUTHOR has notified the PUBLISHER of alleged fault in writing and by registered post only if the PUBLISHER has failed to rectify the alleged fault on his part within SIXTY (60) days of the said written and registered notification. In case of the PUBLISHER going into liquidation or otherwise ceasing to trade or the work going out of print, rights shall revert to the AUTHOR. All remaining stock will be discounted to the trade or pulped. In the event of these circumstances, or any combination, final royalties shall be calculated up to and including the said date and paid to the AUTHOR.

19 AUTHOR'S RESPONSIBILITY
The AUTHOR undertakes not to say, write, or perform any act that may adversely affect the production, promotion and sales of the WORK.

20 INFRINGEMENT OF COPYRIGHT
If there shall be infringement of the copyright of the WORK by any other party, or any other rights in the WORK, the PUBLISHER shall, at his discretion, and after notifying the AUTHOR in writing, take such action in the courts or employ such other remedies as may be deemed expedient, and in the event of recovery of moneys in this regard by the PUBLISHER, the PUBLISHER shall, after deductions for expenses and costs pay to the AUTHOR fifty per cent (50 %) of all sums recovered thereby.

21 ASSIGNMENT OF CONTRACT
It is mutually agreed between the parties to this Agreement for themselves and for their respective executors and administrators, or successors in business, as the case or context may apply, that the AUTHOR has willingly written the WORK and any assignee shall be bound by all the terms and conditions of the Agreement.

22 DISCONTINUANCE OF PUBLICATION
The PUBLISHER shall notify the AUTHOR in writing when the WORK no longer warrants continued publication; such notification and decision shall be entirely at the discretion of the PUBLISHER. In this event, all copies of the WORK existing shall be remaindered to the trade at a discounted price or pulped.

23 COMPLETE CONTRACT

It is acknowledged by the PUBLISHER that he shall attempt by all means to fulfil his obligations under the terms of this Agreement and it is acknowledged by the AUTHOR that the PUBLISHER has not made any prior promises, pledges or guarantees, except as may be contained in this agreement which constitutes a complete contract and the whole and complete understanding of the parties and no representations other than those expressly contained herein shall be binding, and this agreement is entered into in good faith by both parties, it being distinctly understood that neither party has guaranteed, nor intends, or is able to guarantee, nor is able to predict the exact sale of a specific number of copies of the WORK.

24 PAYMENT OF ACCOUNTS
The PUBLISHER shall render accounts of the said WORK as at DATE, in the first year, and annually thereafter, and all moneys due to the AUTHOR shall be paid to the account within TWELVE WEEKS (12 weeks) of the said accountancy date. If the PUBLISHER has failed to pay the said moneys by this date, the AUTHOR shall, on written and registered notification, inform the PUBLISHER.

25 OPTION TO PUBLISH FURTHER WORK

The PUBLISHER would like to have first refusal of the AUTHOR'S next two works, but this must not be taken to infringe in any way the right of the AUTHOR, or to commit the AUTHOR to future dealings with the PUBLISHER.

26 GOVERNING LAW AND JURISDICTION

Any differences arising between the AUTHOR and the PUBLISHER touching on this Agreement, or the rights and liabilities contained therein, shall be governed by, and interpreted, in all respects, in accordance with the Law of England.



AS WITNESS THE HANDS OF THE PARTIES:


For the PUBLISHER
Name
Signature Date
This signature is duly witnessed:
Date


For the AUTHOR
Name
Signature Date
This signature is duly witnessed:
Date






This Publishing Contract, and the offer made therein by the Publisher, is valid for signature only until: DATE
 
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Take note of the Promotion and Marketing clause. They get to decide the price of the book and how much marketing and distribution it gets. If they decide it gets no marketing push then the author has no comeback.
 
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Well it's a vanity publisher, so you'd be wise to steer clear of it anyway. However, in addition to the points that waylander made, you should also be aware of:

Vanguard Press:
The AUTHOR grants to The PUBLISHER the sole right to publish and offer for sale the WORK and the sole right to negotiate in respect of subsidiary rights as set out in subsequent paragraphs.

Why do they need subsidiary rights? It's a vanity publisher, it's not going to do anything with them.

Vanguard Press:
The PUBLISHER shall render accounts of the said WORK as at DATE, in the first year, and annually thereafter, and all moneys due to the AUTHOR shall be paid to the account within TWELVE WEEKS (12 weeks) of the said accountancy date.

Royalty payments are only made annually. For most companies it's done on a quarterly basis. Not that it matters because by going with a vanity press, you'll be lucky if you earned back more than a couple of quid anyway.

Vanguard Press:
The PUBLISHER would like to have first refusal of the AUTHOR'S next two works, but this must not be taken to infringe in any way the right of the AUTHOR, or to commit the AUTHOR to future dealings with the PUBLISHER.

It's farcical that a vanity publisher would want to claim your next two books (which incidentally, could be any two manuscripts given that it's not restricted to being of the type and genre of the contracted work). All it means is that they'll offer to "publish" those books for another 3 grand.

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One cannot hide anything on the Internet. Pegasus publishing scam is there for all to see!

Here is how its done. Pegasus takes anything that is sent, sends out a message that it is interested... holds on to the manuscript as if it were being read... send out a FORM LETTER as if it were read... and then... and only then offer a vanity press deal. The manuscript is never read at all. These tactics are being uncovered and made known. Of course Pegasus' web site would be littered with contented cow authors but the rest of the "marks" can eat vanity pie.

See you on the Internet!

Dear Ms Sings Lave,

Re: LIVING BETWEEN LIES

Thank you for your patience regarding this submission.
After much consideration and discussion with senior colleagues at the December Publishing Board meeting, the board decided that unfortunatly, it was unable to offer a Pegasus contract (Non-contributory) on this occasion, but has agreed to accept this work for publication in quality paperback format with certain considerations. I am writing to you with these proposals and would like you to give them your considered opinion. Our proposal is that we could provide you with a Vanguard Press Publishing agreement whereby we would undertake to carry out all editorial work, cover design, registration of the title, printing, binding and extensive promotion and marketing etc for a finacial commitment from you as the author. Full details of this would be stipulated in your contract. We feel this kind of partnership between publisher and author is now becoming common. Your manuscript does need a small amount of editorial input, but we would be able to advise you further, should we reach the contractual stage. In our opinion, your work has the merit to warrant publication under this type of agreement with our Vanguard imprint. We do belive that with our combined efforts your book will acheive the success that deserves, and will be favourably received by the reading public and the media. We would keep your book in print and available on the market for as long as public interest is shown. If you were to consider our proposal, your normal contractual bemnefits would apply, including an enhanced scale of royalty payments. Your decision can be confirmed to us either by a simple letter or by email and then we can have the contracts prepared for your perusal.
We look forward to hearing from you in due course.
Kind regards,
Yours sincerly,
David (Newstead),
Editorial.

Dear Richard,

Re: AMERICAN EUPHORIA

Thank you for your patience regarding this submission.
After much consideration and discussion with senior colleagues at the January Publishing Board Meeting, the board decided that unfortunately, it was unable to offer a Pegasus contract (Non-contributory)
On this occasion, but has agreed to accept this work for publication in quality paperback format with certain considerations. I am writing to you with these proposals and would like you to give them your considered opinion.
Our proposal is that we could provide you with a Vanguard press publishing agreement whereby we would undertake to carry out all editorial work, cover design, registration of the title, printing, binding and extensive promotion and marketing etc. for a financial commitment from you as the author. Full details of this would be stipulated in your contract. We feel this kind of partnership between publisher and author is now becoming common.
Your manuscript does need a small amount of editorial input, but we would be able to advise you further, should we reach the contractual stage. In our opinion, your work has the merit to warrant publication under this type of agreement with our Vanguard imprint.
We do believe that with our combined efforts your book will achieve the success that it deserves, and will be favorably received by the readers and the media. We would keep your book in print and available on the market for as long as public interest is shown.
If you were to consider our proposal your normal contractual benefits would apply, including an enhanced scale of royalty payments. Your decision can be confirmed to us either in a simple letter or by email and then we can have the contracts prepared for your perusal.
We look forward to hearing from you in due course.
Kind regards,
Yours sincerely,
David (Newstead)
Editorial.
 

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Why are U censoring texts?
I'm not. Please stop posting the same thing over and over. If you make a mistake in your post, use the edit button on the bottom right to fix it.
 

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Windowpane:
Absolute Write Water Cooler is engaged in censorship and is probably a "beared" for publishers!

Yeah, sure, right. :eyeroll:

You've made the same post twice. We get the point.

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M'kay, WTF is a "beared"?
 

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I'm guessing it's like a beard, only bigger, growlier and ... spelt incorrectly. On the plus side, at least the "edit" function is being used now.

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Ah, of course. You'd think more folks'd realize that the best way to garner understanding is to be, like, comprehensible.
 

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Apology

I'm sorry! I'm a NewB; and I don't know my ass from a hole in the ground... yet. I've just been duped by Pegasus and I'm probably too sensitive right now to post anything.

I very much appreciate this site. My apologies to everyone
 

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The letters from PES to Richard and I are identical. I won't be surprise if the following documents sent to Richard will also be identical. I must confess, I ran mine through the spell checker; force of habit I guess. Lo & behold! I found 22 misspellings. So if they don't even check their own document, I have lesser confidence that they will do a good job on mine.
 
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Frequently, book publishing by many of the larger publishers only relates to established writers and those with individual celebrity status.

If you find that statement, or any variation on that statement, on a publisher's webpage, you can cross them off your list of potential publishers and know that you've avoided a bullet.
 

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Bait & Switch is Eliot Mackenzie/Pegasus business plan. Now that I've confronted them, they remain mute about what transpired during the "consideration and discussion". In fact they did not read a word. Instead I got an email from a "Pegasus Consultant" recommending I not try to publish in England again. Thanks to you all, otherwise I would still be in the dark!
 

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