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I submitted my proposal to Llewellyn about three months ago and immidiatly was asked to send the whole MS. I haven't heard anything back yet-Is this time frame normal and I should wait it out longer? Or should I inquire them? I want to do the polite thing-though waiting is soooo tough lol. :) I'm also worried it was forgotten or didn't make it to anyones eyes (email goof up)
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Summer is downtime for many publishers, I'd give them a bit more time before you nudge. Good luck! :)
 

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hehe. Oooh I didn't know that about Summer, but it does make sense! Thanks!!
 

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Flux is closing to submissions without an agent on March 1, 2011. Does anyone remember what the submission guidelines are so I can submit before then? They have taken them down, probably to discourage people doing what I want to do but just thought I would ask.
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Heh. They've been around for, what, five years now? For me, an imprint stops being "fresh new" after two. :cool:
 

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Midnight Ink

Does anyone have any experience with Midnight Ink? I know two mystery writers from Maine, (The publisher isn't from Maine or even New England IIRC) who have series published with them and I've read on of the series, which was in trade paperback. I would have thought that they were a POD outfit, but both the series have reviews by Publisher's Weekly and Library Journal. I wasn't aware that the former did reviews on books that didn't have regular print runs, but I don't know.
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Does anyone have any experience with Midnight Ink? I know two mystery writers from Maine, (The publisher isn't from Maine or even New England IIRC) who have series published with them and I've read on of the series, which was in trade paperback. I would have thought that they were a POD outfit, but both the series have reviews by Publisher's Weekly and Library Journal. I wasn't aware that the former did reviews on books that didn't have regular print runs, but I don't know.
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As you've probably noticed by virtue of your post being moved, Midnight Ink is an imprint of Llewellyn Worldwide, a well-respected small-to-mid-size indepenedent publisher that's been around for over a century. Definitely not a 'POD outfit'.
 

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Points to sig. Midnight Ink books. If you head to my website and scroll past the signing pics, you'll see the major review site reviews. MI gets their authors noticed.
 

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I absolutely love the Llwellyn books. Read a lot of those 'true haunting' books so far, and really liked them. If I ever get around to writing my true haunting story, they're the first publisher I'd submit to. I'm absolutely amazed by the quality of their books and covers.
 

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Does anyone have any experience with Midnight Ink? I know two mystery writers from Maine, (The publisher isn't from Maine or even New England IIRC) who have series published with them and I've read on of the series, which was in trade paperback. I would have thought that they were a POD outfit, but both the series have reviews by Publisher's Weekly and Library Journal. I wasn't aware that the former did reviews on books that didn't have regular print runs, but I don't know.
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Definitely not POD. You can find their books in the brick and mortar Barnes & Noble -- without special ordering them. They don't accept non-agented submissions and they do pay an advance. I have a submission out with them ATM :D
 

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I've been publishing short articles with Llewellyn annuals for more than ten years now. They're located out of the Twin Cities (Minnesota, where I live.) Editors often handle the paperwork from beginning to end, and most acquisitions for books take a full-on meeting. From what I gather, the current acquisitions editor is constantly buried under a submissions pile but she makes every effort to get back to people in a timely manner.
 

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They're adding more acquisitions editors and having them specialize. I know Don Kraig was added recently specifically for advanced ceremonial magick topics -- books similar (from what I could gather) to the books printed by Scarlet Imprint.
 

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I met the acquisitions editor for Midnight Ink at a conference last fall, she asked me to send her a partial, which I sent in March. Less than 24 hours after receiving my partial, she asked for the full, which I promptly sent along. Been waiting ever since. Sent a followup email last month, still nothing. Is this a normal wait time for Midnight Ink?
 

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AFAIK, possibly. The acquisitions editor has said on her blog that she has a tall stack of mss. in her queue. That was awhile ago, so she may still be working through that stack.
 

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Thank you! I guess I'll keep waiting. :Shrug:

Yup, I'm still waiting on a response to the full my agent sent last year. To tell you the truth, it's been so long and they've never responded to nudges, I just assumed the answer was no response = no.
 

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Doesn't surprise me. My agent went to pull my submission from Flux (we've heard from reputable sources that they have a horrible contract and don't really negotiate), and never got a response.

I've met a couple of their authors, who then went to other places. They were not impressed. That's Flux, not Llewellyn proper.
 

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Yup, I'm still waiting on a response to the full my agent sent last year. To tell you the truth, it's been so long and they've never responded to nudges, I just assumed the answer was no response = no.

That's disappointing. I was so thrilled with her quick response to my partial, and I really thought she was excited about my work after talking to her at the conference. I guess I'll keep my fingers crossed. :e2shrug:
 

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I signed my book with Llewellyn this summer and am thinking about submitting to Flux now. I am very happy with them so far, and can only say good things about them. Excited for my book release date next summer!
 

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Doesn't surprise me. My agent went to pull my submission from Flux (we've heard from reputable sources that they have a horrible contract and don't really negotiate), and never got a response.

I've met a couple of their authors, who then went to other places. They were not impressed. That's Flux, not Llewellyn proper.

I'm working on my third book with them now, I've sold books to them as an agent. I wouldn't say they have a horrible contract at all, and I'm able to negotiate quite a bit of it.

As an author I've written for penguin and harlequin (in addition to flux) and as an agent have sold to them, S&S, Hyperion, St. Martins, etc, and there's nothing in their contract that is out of line with other pubs. They DO have royalties based on net, not retail, which isn't my favorite style, but there are favorable escalation clauses and bonuses that help balance it out a bit.

Further, for their advance size, I've been impressed by their publicity team and marketing campaigns. You WILL get a larger advance/print run at a big 6, but you'll get LESS marketing unless you're a lead title.

It's true that folks do often "move on" from there becuase the big 6 really does pay larger advances.
 

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