“Family-making” values on public display by congresswoman Lauren Boebert?

[U2Girl1966]

OTOOH, she’s apologized for it, is not denying it.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/16/lauren-boebert-apology-beetlejuice-video

She's not sorry, she's sorry she got caught.

 

[Roxxsmom]

Footage shows Boebert and her date fiddling with each other's privates at "Beetlejuice" musical


I’ve kindly spared you the link to xTwitter.

I read about that, and about their general rudeness, where they were talking loudly, using their phones, taking unauthorized videos, vaping. What a child she is. Worse than a child, because she has power over other people that most children don't have. Why do people chose to give her that power? It's more than just her politics, since people with her political beliefs (sadly) are a dime a dozen. Some people seem to gravitate toward the selfish, childish, idiocy for its own sake.

 

[darkprincealain]

I do think this incident proves that there are more rules about decorum at a touring production of Beetlejuice than there are for Congress.

 

[ElaineA]

Why do people chose to give her that power? It's more than just her politics, since people with her political beliefs (sadly) are a dime a dozen.

According to many men I've seen and heard opining both online and IRL--from neo-Nazi Richard Hanania (who called her a GILF) to my own husband (who paraphrased the old Seinfeld quip, they're real and they're spectacular)--the answer lies in the zone between her collarbones and mid-thighs.

 

[Roxxsmom]

According to many men I've seen and heard opining both online and IRL--from neo-Nazi Richard Hanania (who called her a GILF) to my own husband (who paraphrased the old Seinfeld quip, they're real and they're spectacular)--the answer lies in the zone between her collarbones and mid-thighs.

Sadly, that makes a certain amount of sense, though it's puzzling. It's not like men need to vote for a woman who is built like the proverbial "brick house" and lets it all hang out (in the audience of live performances as well as on stage) in order to see large, prominently displayed breasts or attractively proportioned female bodies in general. They're everywhere, out on the streets and in the media.

This comes from the same place of puzzlement as the guys who get angry/frustrated over a handful of video games actually introducing sensible female outfits/armor for avatars (oooh, all the whining in the Dragon Age forums over this). Are guys really just playing video games and watching politicians for the soft porn appeal so they can jerk off while playing or observing? Why not just look at real porn, which is not exactly hard to come by (or terribly stigmatized nowadays)? Though maybe seeing objectified female bodies nearly everywhere feeds an addiction that leads to some guys expecting to see them everywhere.

LoL, remember that waaaaay back in the 60s some claimed tfemale voters were swayed by the relatively young and handsome Kennedy brothers, leading to the success of the latter in politics. Some even opined that this was reason to doubt the common sense of female voters (though the reality of what motivated female voters in the early 60s is a lot more mundane, and female turnout was still worse than male turnout in the early 60s). Of course there were very few women in national politics, let alone female politicians of an age generally regarded as "still sexy" by men, at the time, so it wasn't really possible to provide any examples of male voters doing the same thing.

I suspect that there is some calculus re women (and the occasional Black, Muslim, or Hispanic Republican candidates) GOP candidates that they can be tokens that "prove" that social conservatives aren't sexist or otherwise bigoted (never mind that the whole socially conservative message centers around "traditional family" values that are quite sexist and screams its racist dogwhistles these days). Even the most famously outspoken conservative women pundits (from Phyllis Schaffley to Anne Coulter) tend to tell women to "Do as I say, not as I do."

If very few women voted for female candidates like Boebert, she wouldn't win, though. Because nowadays more women do vote than men. Does this vicious yet "air headed" persona represent something conservative female voters secretly aspire to?

 

[Introversion]

According to many men I've seen and heard opining both online and IRL--from neo-Nazi Richard Hanania (who called her a GILF) to my own husband (who paraphrased the old Seinfeld quip, they're real and they're spectacular)--the answer lies in the zone between her collarbones and mid-thighs.

If that’s all they want from her, they should vote her out of office and subscribe to her inevitable subsequent OnlyFans account.

 

[Tiger1b]

Let us not forget the devastating smartitude, classylization and knowingness that occasionally whackifies notknowafiles, through liquid sunshine… like the goll-dang Trident of Thor. A true force of nature (calls).

ETA: But she did a great job of saying how sorry she was for everything she didn’t do.

 

[SWest]

Show of hands: who's super-happy they don't live in her head?

 

[frimble3]

In her head? I'm super happy I don't live in her country!
If I were in her head, possibly I could gain some control and make her a better person.

 

[Tiger1b]

Show of hands: who's super-happy they don't live in her head?

Even odds you wouldn’t suffocate….

 

[Roxxsmom]

Show of hands: who's super-happy they don't live in her head?

Well, there's lots of room to stretch out and unused storage space in there, anyway.

 

[BenPanced]

Great acoustics, too.

 

[Tiger1b]

I'm unusually peeved by this incident.

"...none of my actions or words as a private citizen that night were intended to be malicious or meant to cause harm..."

Yah well, flipping someone the bird and shouting, "do you know who I am?" is only malicious because the MSM got hold of the recording and showed it the public. I mean, if not for that damned recording, at worst it'd all be one big misunderstanding. Right? It's the world who are malicious for watching.

I'm going to swallow a tablespoon of baking soda, look up the exact wording of the 9th Commandment and head back to Office Party.

Cheers.

 

[frimble3]

And my thought is: if you want to use the 'private citizen' exemption, stay out of politics and out of the media spotlight.
Keep yourself private.
If you persist in throwing yourself in front of cameras and microphones, you take your chances.
It's like Gloria Swanson supposedly saying "I want to be left alone". Well, honey, get out of Hollywood, and fire your publicist.

 

[MaeZe]

And the 'no harm meant' excuse falls flat when you smoke in a public place and a pregnant woman asks you to stop and you refuse.

 

[Tiger1b]

And my thought is: if you want to use the 'private citizen' exemption, stay out of politics and out of the media spotlight.
Keep yourself private.

...And keeping hands off people's privates in public may be something to consider as well. That goes for both parties.
(talk about public service).

Apologies, all.
I know I promised.
I'm leaving for real now.
Carry on.

 

[Trying To Be Good]

Because I'm supposed to be outwardly politically secular, I'm not in a huge rush to disclose my politics.

However, I think this specific politician is one of those "So radial and troubling, that 80% of the nation doesn't like them" kind of politicians.

EDIT:

Sadly, that makes a certain amount of sense, though it's puzzling. It's not like men need to vote for a woman who is built like the proverbial "brick house" and lets it all hang out (in the audience of live performances as well as on stage) in order to see large, prominently displayed breasts or attractively proportioned female bodies in general. They're everywhere, out on the streets and in the media.

I have to agree, the default state of women appears to be "hot", so I'm pretty sure any other woman off the street could replace her.

She also, to me, does seem give off... How do I word this... She wears a lot of makeup and she seems very intellectually lazy... And emotional...and obsessed with expensive wearable things.

Is this appealing to people? I see tags for stuff like this online.

 

[frimble3]

...And keeping hands off people's privates in public may be something to consider as well. That goes for both parties.
(talk about public service).

Apologies, all.
I know I promised.
I'm leaving for real now.
Carry on.

Yeah, did their mothers never explain about the whole 'things we do in private/things we so in public' stuff?
Especially in these days of small, unobtrusive cameras? And the 'Net?

 

[frimble3]

Because I'm supposed to be outwardly politically secular, I'm not in a huge rush to disclose my politics.

However, I think this specific politician is one of those "So radial and troubling, that 80% of the nation doesn't like them" kind of politicians.

EDIT:

I have to agree, the default state of women appears to be "hot", so I'm pretty sure any other woman off the street could replace her.

She also, to me, does seem give off... How do I word this... She wears a lot of makeup and she seems very intellectually lazy... And emotional...and obsessed with expensive wearable things.

Is this appealing to people? I see tags for stuff like this online.

More like she should be on one of those 'Real Housewives of - - - ' shows than in politics?

 

[Trying To Be Good]

More like she should be on one of those 'Real Housewives of - - - ' shows than in politics?

I didn't say anything... I'm a professional.

Whistles and looks around up at the ceiling.

 

[Cobalt Jade]

I think it's likely she and the date took part in certain substances before the show.

 

[Roxxsmom]

And my thought is: if you want to use the 'private citizen' exemption, stay out of politics and out of the media spotlight.
Keep yourself private.
If you persist in throwing yourself in front of cameras and microphones, you take your chances.
It's like Gloria Swanson supposedly saying "I want to be left alone". Well, honey, get out of Hollywood, and fire your publicist.

And a private citizen who behaved this way very likely would face repercussions, maybe even at work, too. We live in a world where the things we do and say in public spaces can easily become matters of public record. Of course, if you're already "famous," there is more general interest in the things you do, but I could see some private employers firing someone who ended up in the local police blotter, or even just the subject of gossip on social media, for lewd, rude, and confrontational behavior in public. Heck, we live in a world where people get fired for posting (on Facebook) vacation pictures of themselves with drinks in their hands.

I think it's likely she and the date took part in certain substances before the show.

It seems highly likely. Also something that "ought" to alienate her from the so-called family values crowd, but the hypocrisy of socially conservative voters is well established by now.

 

[BenPanced]

And a private citizen who behaved this way very likely would face repercussions, maybe even at work, too. We live in a world where the things we do and say in public spaces can easily become matters of public record. Of course, if you're already "famous," there is more general interest in the things you do, but I could see some private employers firing someone who ended up in the local police blotter, or even just the subject of gossip on social media, for lewd, rude, and confrontational behavior in public. Heck, we live in a world where people get fired for posting (on Facebook) vacation pictures of themselves with drinks in their hands.

Oh, yeah. With the way news travels these days, she should wish she'd stayed a private citizen. If she weren't a congresscritter, this whole incident wouldn't be in the headlines for as long as it has been and will be.

 

[Trying To Be Good]

It seems highly likely. Also something that "ought" to alienate her from the so-called family values crowd, but the hypocrisy of socially conservative voters is well established by now.

I think it's just as likely they have no idea, and this woman's people don't want her voters to know, if they can keep them from knowing.

Also, it's not hypocritical for a politician and their voters to say they care about one thing, but it's a means to an end for something else. That's not hypocrisy, that's lying, self-deception, ect ect.

 

[ElaineA]

I think it's just as likely they have no idea, and this woman's people don't want her voters to know, if they can keep them from knowing.

Also, it's not hypocritical for a politician and their voters to say they care about one thing, but it's a means to an end for something else. That's not hypocrisy, that's lying, self-deception, ect ect.

Except they've been releasing excuses every day since it happened. And The Fox News crowd has heard about it, so there's no keeping it off FB, Truth, and Gettr now.

@lizmonster has expressed this on threads around here, but I saw a post on Bluesky today that boiled the "hypocrisy" thing down to a few pithy words, so I'll add it to her frequent wisdom : Quoting, in part,

Where we see hypocrisy, the right sees hierarchy.