While researching publishing houses I came across this one http://www.coffeeandcreampublishing.com/ I didn't see it in the Index so I thought I'd post it here and see what you all think.
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The website appears to be focussed on attracting new writers, not on selling any of C&C's publications, which is one strike against them.
Its About Us page shows no prior experience in publishing.
The website is a mess; the pages all seem to require two click-throughs to be able to read anything in full; the writing on it is clumsy and confusing.
I wouldn't.
Its About Us page shows no prior experience in publishing.
The website is a mess; the pages all seem to require two click-throughs to be able to read anything in full; the writing on it is clumsy and confusing.
I wouldn't.
I hope the person who wrote that isn't an editor at C&C!
The founder of C&C is strangely coy about revealing her identity:
No name is given, just "A Member of Romance Writer's Association (www.rwa.org)". The 'A' does of course stand for 'America', not 'Association'.
Goodreads reveals that C&C's Acquisitions Editor is Elizabeth Lee (http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/656103-coffee-and-cream-publishing-accepting-ebook-submission)
Is this the same organisation as the Philadelphia-based Coffee and Cream Publishing Co. mentioned here?
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From my post in that thread (it's a call for submissions in Paying Markets, and they use the line "This is a start-up publisher and no history can be provided"):
C&C is advertising for a freelance line editor, a freelance proofreader and freelance cover artists. Shouldn't all this have been in place before they started asking for submissions?
It's also interesting to note from the other thread that it's three months since someone pointed out the spelling and grammatical errors on the C&C website, a problem that has yet to be addressed.
It's also interesting to note from the other thread that it's three months since someone pointed out the spelling and grammatical errors on the C&C website, a problem that has yet to be addressed.
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Thanks guys I had a feeling they were new, but didn't realize there was no staff. And there's a call for submissions.
Well, C&C is reading this thread - they've corrected 'Romance Writer's Association' to 'Romance Writers of America'! Perhaps they could improve their site even further by naming staff members and giving some information about their previous experience in the publishing industry.
It would be helpful if someone from C&C would come and answer questions about their staff, their contract, and publishing experience. That would be very helpful.
What further questions could you possibly have? This is a new start-up with no information about the people running it. Why would you even consider submitting your manuscript to them?
I get that you're new and you're doing absolutely the right thing by researching how publishing is supposed to work. However I equally know that you've been advised the best thing to do is to start by looking to get an agent and go down the commercial publishing route, so I'm a bit confused as to why you seem to be considering start-ups.
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Well, I am researching agents for myself; however, a friend of mine has submitted a manuscript to them. So I guess I'm curious and worried is all, but I am still trying to get an agent and go down the commercial publishing route.
I made a post about some of the red flags I immediately got about CnC when reading about their short story "contest".
I think I made some interesting points (then again maybe not). But I wanted to post a link to my concerns here rather than repost it.
http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6969438#post6969438
I think I made some interesting points (then again maybe not). But I wanted to post a link to my concerns here rather than repost it.
http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6969438#post6969438
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I rant about fake contests more than the average bear, but I don't think it applies here. The winner gets $500. That is a prize therefore this is a contest.
I agree. But not all that glitters is gold, and not all that is a contest is particularly favorable to join - especially if it requires an entry fee.
My point in that mini-rant is more to offer a differing opinion. I tend to agree with the Science Fiction Writers of America in their logic around recommending contests, and which ones offer little in the way of reward.
I mean, yes, 500 dollars is some cash and it sure is useful, but without the credit that I would expect to get with my story, I might as well not submit a story to another contest - maybe the lottery. Since the lottery offers the same thing - maybe less of a chance to win, but you win nothing but cash - which is what you would win here (in my opinion).
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All good points, but quite separate from suggesting it is not a contest or is in anyway dishonest (i.e. not what it claims to be).
There are literally thousands of contests like this one open right now. It seems a bit arbitrary to act like this particular publisher is doing anything unusual by running one. As this sort of thing goes, theirs is probably better than average.
I still wouldn't submit to it, but plenty of other people will--without in any way having been misled.
There are literally thousands of contests like this one open right now. It seems a bit arbitrary to act like this particular publisher is doing anything unusual by running one. As this sort of thing goes, theirs is probably better than average.
I still wouldn't submit to it, but plenty of other people will--without in any way having been misled.
Although the site was updated over the summer re: their 2014 contest, Twitter feed stopped Jan '12 and there's no sign of anything published.