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Anyone have any experiences with this magazine?

http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/


10 cents a word sure beats Asimov's, Analog, and Fantasy & Science Fiction, and they have an electronic submission system.
 
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Pretty good magazine. Quick turnaround for rejections. With just a couple stories published a month, they're very selective. I met Neil Clarke at Capclave a couple years ago and he was nice talking to and listening to on panels.
 

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I believe of the two stories they publish per month, one is from an established writer.
 

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Oh My God! That crap won a 2009 Nebula? It's virtually pornography with a little SF thrown on for icing. It's barely concealed bestiality (actually, I believe the definition would be miscegenation, but there's little indication the thing she's screwing is even sentient so bestiality might be appropriate).

There's hardly even a story in there anywhere that I could see.

Dear God, what a hash the Nebula has turned into. What trash.

Bob Heinlein must be spinning in his grave right now (among others).
 

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Oh My God! That crap won a 2009 Nebula? It's virtually pornography with a little SF thrown on for icing. It's barely concealed bestiality (actually, I believe the definition would be miscegenation, but there's little indication the thing she's screwing is even sentient so bestiality might be appropriate).

There's hardly even a story in there anywhere that I could see.

Dear God, what a hash the Nebula has turned into. What trash.

Bob Heinlein must be spinning in his grave right now (among others).

Yeah, that one surprised me. I read it back before the Nebula's streamed live online a few months back.

Stories like that piss me off. Those are the ones that I look at and think mine are at least that good and yet, here that gets nominated for a Nebula and I can't get past the slush pile.
 

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Shadow Ferret, it just goes to show that the people who are voting for the Nebula wouldn't know good SF or fantasy from their own ass if you gave 'em directions and a roadmap.

They like porn. They like stories in which nothing much happens (unless somebody comes or dues in misery or gazes at their own navel for extended periods of time).

What they don't like is story and good writing.

Dr. Clarke is having apoplexy right now regarding that comp,tee piece of garbage published by a magazine that bears his name and ostensibly bears his legacy.
 

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Dr. Clarke is having apoplexy right now regarding that comp,tee piece of garbage published by a magazine that bears his name and ostensibly bears his legacy.

I do not believe the magazine is named for Arthur C. Clarke. "Clarke" is the last name of the Owner and Editor, Neil Clarke.
 
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I certainly recognize the gut-reaction of "why is such and such published and my story isn't," and this really isn't the place to start a discussion on the topic, but let's not get too snotty here.

This piece was published, because it impressed a number of readers at Clarkesworld, including Neil Clarke, and was put up for the nebula and the Hugo, because it managed to impress a lot of people besides. It may not be your cup of tea, but let's not get insulting.

Personally, I found the story unique, provocative, and very well written (not a fan of the ending, but whatever.) I can easily see how, if you're reading hundreds of submissions every month this story would stick out from all the rest. And for the record, it is certainly not pornography. I'm not a specialist on the subject, granted, but I'm pretty sure, aliens aside, porn is written VERY differently from what we see here (and of course, with very different intentions.) Sex (if you want to call it sex) does not equal pornography.

I don't mean to get preachy, but I'll just throw this out there. This is something that's not easy to do, and it took me a while to learn to do this myself, and even so, I can't do it all the time. Still, try to, instead of looking at a piece of writing and thinking "I could do better," ask yourself, "What could I learn from this writer, this story? What does he/she manage to do well?" Because if you honestly believe that a writer does nothing well, that a story accomplishes nothing, then IMO you're not looking hard enough!
 
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I personally liked it and I think the reason it won is because the imagery is unforgettable.
 

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Mr. Anonymous, well stated.

As to the topic of the thread. I've had no personal experience with this magazine yet aside from chatting with Neil Clarke on twitter. However, I've been reading it for some time now, and I'll be submitting to it once I have something that I think fits.
 

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Well, my first submission to Clarkesworld is in the hopper and awaits judgment. I must say that the electronic submission is simultaneously awesome and evil. It actually displays where you are in line. This has made me extremely obsessive compulsive about checking my place in line. I started at 106 and day by day have been moving closer and closer to my stories fate. I just hope that they can't see how many times I've checked on the status because it would probably be quite embarrassing. Right now I'm number 15 in line and my finger hurts. Refresh, refresh, refresh...

On a side note: "Spar" is even better when hearing it read to you by the lovely voice of Kate Baker.

http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/audio_10_09/
 

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i like that they don JUST publish science fiction (and fantasy?). there's an element of weirdness and futurism and "you can't do that", the kind of would your really won't find just anywhere.

I really hope that they don't face the same struggles that many magazines face (going under because people prefer free rather than carefully crafted niche and don't think an organized tomb is worth paying for.) <-not a gripe
 

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Good luck Monomaniac! I've submitted several stories to them. All rejections, but I really like knowing that the story isn't in some cyber void. I also like the "waiting in line" aspect of their review process.

Kij's story (the one that won the HUGO) IMHO was OK.
I loved her novel "Fox Woman" and I had the pleasure of being in a workshop she ran on writing at GenCon a few years back.

I thought the ending of the short story was too simple and I wanted to see what the alien was/the reason the alien was doing what it was doing -- if it even was intercourse. I think what made it ping for the voters was the imagery and that it was so different than most stories out there.
 

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Kij's story (the one that won the HUGO) IMHO was OK.

I loved her novel "Fox Woman" and I had the pleasure of being in a workshop she ran on writing at GenCon a few years back.

I thought the ending of the short story was too simple and I wanted to see what the alien was/the reason the alien was doing what it was doing -- if it even was intercourse. I think what made it ping for the voters was the imagery and that it was so different than most stories out there.

I don't know why everyone was so up in arms over the 'tentacle sex' since it's been a steady feature of many hentai anime (Japanese porn anime) for decades. I didn't see that it deserved a Hugo. To me it was same ol' same ol', ie. not that original.
 
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I don't know why everyone was so up in arms over the 'tentacle sex' since it's been a steady feature of many hentai anime (Japanese porn anime) for decades. I didn't see that it deserved a Hugo. To me it was same ol' same ol', ie. not that original.


Tentacle sex is old news, at least to me, and I live in the 'burbs and work in an office (so I can't even imagine how la-di-dah it is to the truly cutting-edge).
 

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has anyone else been in their slush for much longer than usual (usual for them is about a week or less)?
 

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Does anyone know if they take non-fic subs? I wasn't able to figure it out from their guidelines.
 

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Thanks! I don't know how I managed to miss that ::hangs head in shame::
 

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Wyrm Publishing

Does anyone know about this publisher, like what kind of sales they have or if they're even worth submitting to? I recently submitted a short story to Clarkes World Magazine, which I think is owned by Wyrm or vice versa, and they do pretty well for themselves.

Just wondering if anyone had any info on them, considering I couldn't find a thread about them.