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(I'll post hyperlinks in a minute.)

Read entries here. (password: citrus)

Read rules and voting details here.

Contest discussion - you're in it. So discuss.
 
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i've long been critical of what i view as a pathetic level of cultural engagement of poetry in general and have made similar complaints about the often modest amount of participation in this forum. this is because a) i'm a jerk and b) poetry is one of the few things i care about.

but you will see none of that criticism in this thread. this is a high-water mark for AW's poetry forum and the mods, steppe and, most of all, the contributors should be very proud.

i am thrilled not only with the turnout, but also with the variety, quality and boldness of the entries. it is a delicious sampling of style, form and POV.

congratulations to you all.
 

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It's an amazing group of poems.

Once we're all done with the voting and stuff, I'd love to see all these assembled into a book. I'll probably say that again several times.
 

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I always forget that people in Australia have to sleep.
 

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I didn't move over the discussion posts because they were posted before this thread was started and it would sort of bungle the info post at the top of this thread. if you want any of your own comments in this thread, feel free to quote yourselves in a new post. :)
 

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I was taken aback seeing this much quality - it was more than expected.
 

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Gorgeous selection. I'm curious about voting approaches. I think I am going to reread in batches and go from there. It's hard to judge such quality against quality.
 

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Crap. I've only got 2 cats. Simply not the n= I was looking for.

You have time to recruit a few dogs. Make sure they're literate dogs though.
 

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Damn it, I don't have any pets. Maybe I'll see how they play to my houseplants.
 

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A perfect combination then. With the deciding vote on the appropriate side of the civilization index, to boot. Well done!
 

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Damn it, I don't have any pets. Maybe I'll see how they play to my houseplants.

If your plants start to wither, you'll know you found a winner. Thing is, plant response time is a bit slow so you'll have to start quickly.
 

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If your plants start to wither, you'll know you found a winner. Thing is, plant response time is a bit slow so you'll have to start quickly.

Mine are all pretty much dead. I was hoping one or more of the poems would perk them up.
 

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Well, print them out and use them as compost.... Might be an interesting experiment!

:greenie
 

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Alternatively, I could roll and smoke them.
 

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Ah, why didn't I think of that? Of course!
 

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I can see why a fresh start to the discussion was so critical. Who'd have imagined?
 

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We are making a real effort not to confuse anybody. How are we doing?
 

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Smoke a poem. You'll feel better.
 

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Far out, man.
 

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Part of my post from the other thread:

Magnificent job, everyone.

I already know which one I will likely put in the #1 slot of my vote when voting opens. It is the only one that gave me the most delicious chills when I read it. I reread it after I had finished all of the poems and the same chills washed over me. I love that!
Bravo! :Clap:

I have developed some criteria for narrowing down the field. Ok. In truth I have one thing in my criteria for narrowing down the field. I am not going to mention what it is, but was wondering if anyone else had a set thing or series of things they were looking for in making their choices. I'm not interested in "what" it is, but "how" you go about choosing from such a large group of excellent poems.
 

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I'm not going to rush in developing criteria, or in my reads.

I have never actually read 26 poems at one sitting before. It was an interesting experience, and I learned something about myself -- it really doesn't work for me. I need to read them one by one, a couple of times, and let the meaning sink in for a bit before moving on, or I pretty much miss much of the impact. My brain gets overloaded, and the more delicate nuances fly right over me.

I did better on a second, slower read of a few of them. It was interesting how differently they struck me, how the voices leapt out at me (I have a couple of guesses as to which poets submitted a couple of them) and how some things that flew right over my head the first time round hit me in the gut.

I usually do pretty well on a first read of a single poem. But not so much when it's 26 of them. Lesson learned.

So my approach, such as it is, will be to re-read a few of them a day, and narrow them down as I go.
 

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my plan is to :


  • eliminate half (13) based on an assessment that they are in the bottom 50% in terms of overall potency, i.e. moving me.
  • eliminate another three or four because their chosen form doesn't support and accentuate the theme as well as some others. this bleeds into word choice, metrical innovation and personal hygiene.
  • eliminate four or five of those remaining based on a highly subjective assessment of voice. this bleeds into worldview and, in a weird sort of way, likeability. since i have no idea who any of the poets are, this is a deeply unfair snap judgment of the person clutching the pen. i'm superficial like that.

that should leave four or five to whittle down. if any ties emerge, they will be resolved thusly:


  • a 4-way tie, we go to the swimsuit competition.
  • a 3-way tie, we go to the threeway.
  • head-to-head: settled with hatchets.

reminder: i can be bribed.

and because i am a white male landowner, my vote counts twice as much.
 
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