Whats with storys with Dragons in them anyways?

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Hi! This place is cool!!!

Maybe you guys can tell me something. So I read alot of storys with Dragons in them, cus I looove Dragons, but there always wrong. They have these stupid, fluffy, pet, Dragons that love humans, or else, these horrible, evil, Dragons that dont make any sense, in there own terms.

Its so frustrating!!!!! :( :(

Doesnt anybody write Dragons that are cruel, and selfish, and greedy, and mean, but also, wise, and smart, and witty, with there own Culture? Why dont Dragons have Literature? Does anybody write Dragons, that look down on humans, cuz they have every right to look down on humans, cuz their better? Only I think its best from the Humans point of view, you know?

Anyway if you can tell me books to read Id love it soooo much! Thanks!!! :)
 
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but there always wrong.
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and why is it that they're always wrong? hmmm? Dragons are prevalent in multiple mythological religions, and even surfaced in Christianity (google St. George.) How can there possibly be a wrong to a multi-cultural creature? Might want to examine that statement there, my friend.

Anne McCaffrey (who is the guiding spirit in dragon literature) has her Dragonriders of Pern series. Her dragons perfectly correlate with what you think is 'right.' You might also want to check out the Dragonlance series from Margaret Weiss and Tracy Hickman. Their dragons perfectly match up with your second request, particularly in the new series sequel (as in the last five years) they've written with all kinds of dragons in it--from the wise to the cruel.

Good luck.
 
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I'd have to agree mscelina. Yes there are legends to use as a starting point, but let us not forget, Dragons are fictional. You can really do whatever you want, write whatever you want. There is no "right" or "wrong". In very broad terms the west tended to see dragons as creatures that were evil to be destroyed, the east revered them as gods. Who was right?

Write whatever kind of dragons you like! You can make them everything you want them to be!
 
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Very true. Also, researching the original prototypes for fantasy dragons, it'd be a good idea to research the creatures thoroughly. That will help you to get a grasp on what the dragon is made to represent, and why those representations are important.
 
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Im confused.

Cuz, the St George Dragon, is all evil and its great that the night kills him. And Ann McCaffrey's Dragons, are all good, they love there humans, and do whats best, for the world. And the Dragonlance Dragons are all, well, D&Dish, I know theyre books FOR D&D but I dont think you should get to put Evil or Good labels, on other creatures. It doesnt make sense. Like, you can't even tell, if a dog is good or evil, how can you tell, with a Dragon? Theyre smarter than people too, a lot, but then why should we, totally understand them, in a book?
But I dont hate them all! Or I wouldnt keep reading them lol! I like the Dragon in A Wizard of Earthsea and I almost like the Dragons in those Dane Cook books. They make sense you know, but theyre totally not, human. Thats what I like. Do you know which other ones are like that?
 
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D.R.Agony, the reason you can "tell" if a dragon is good or bad, is because the author created the dragon in their imagination. Dragons don't really exist. The author can do whatever they want. Heck, it doesn't even matter that they aren't real, an author if they wanted to could create an evil dog. Some authors make pure evil or pure good characters to make a statement of some kind. Some think it works with the story they are telling.

Now it is obvious you like your dragons to be three dimensional creatures. And that's cool. So write them as three dimensional creatures.

As for recommendations for such books . . . I am afraid I am not the one who can help you with that. I have only read a few books about dragons, and done research on eastern dragons. Neither of which help with your situation. I have no doubt you will find many others here who can recommend books to you! In fact you may find yourself overwhelmed with suggestions, that tends to happen here!

Also, and this is totally off topic, but you will notice as you post here, things are a tiny bit different than on other boards with the writing in the posts. Because everyone here is a writer, posts tend to be written more carefully, with attention paid to spelling and grammar etc. It's a good way to keep practicing while relaxing at the same time (I am a terrible speller, and I know that it has definitely helped me). Now you are of course under no obligation to write that way, but you may find it useful.

I also realise I never welcomed you to AW! Welcome!! I hope you have fun here!
 
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D.R.Agony, the reason you can "tell" if a dragon is good or bad, is because the author created the dragon in their imagination. Dragons don't really exist. The author can do whatever they want. Heck, it doesn't even matter that they aren't real, an author if they wanted to could create an evil dog. Some authors make pure evil or pure good characters to make a statement of some kind. Some think it works with the story they are telling.

Now it is obvious you like your dragons to be three dimensional creatures. And that's cool. So write them as three dimensional creatures.

As for recommendations for such books . . . I am afraid I am not the one who can help you with that. I have only read a few books about dragons, and done research on eastern dragons. Neither of which help with your situation. I have no doubt you will find many others here who can recommend books to you! In fact you may find yourself overwhelmed with suggestions, that tends to happen here!

Also, and this is totally off topic, but you will notice as you post here, things are a tiny bit different than on other boards with the writing in the posts. Because everyone here is a writer, posts tend to be written more carefully, with attention paid to spelling and grammar etc. It's a good way to keep practicing while relaxing at the same time (I am a terrible speller, and I know that it has definitely helped me). Now you are of course under no obligation to write that way, but you may find it useful.

I also realise I never welcomed you to AW! Welcome!! I hope you have fun here!
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Thanks! Hey its so cool you can quote things here!! :)
Do you know any Eastern Dragon Books?
 
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D.R. Agony, if you wouldn't mind telling, just what is your age? It would help us better understand how to help you.
 
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You seem like the sort of person who would enjoy Eragon.

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Im not allowed to say how old I am on the internet blun, sorry.
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You may call me Rick. By your reply I will assume you are not yet an adult. And assuming this as fact, it will help others in offering advice to you.

Glad to meet you and wishing you all the very best-
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I tell you what, little fella. Let uncle Rick read you a nice bedtime story all about them mean old dragons. It will be followed by warm milk and a good old porn video which stars me and yer mother.
 
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