View Full Version : No "Happy ever after" ending...now what?

03-23-2005, 11:35 PM
What do you do with a piece (or pieces) of erotica, all the way up to novel length, that don't have the happy ever after ending? All the publishers I queried want that ending, but it's just not happening at this point in my hero's life. He has several women over the years who are dear to him in one way and another, and he even has his years of monogamous relationships, but not until he's 40-ish does his life settle into anything remotely happy-ever-afterish.

So, does anyone know of any market that will take him as he is? LOL. I used Lulu to pub one of his stories and readers who have followed him for the past five years at Opendiary bought up copies, which was nice, but traditional publishing would also be nice.

Any ideas?

03-24-2005, 12:39 AM
I am surprised. I can understand that Romance demands a happy ending, but erotica? Personally I've read erotica shorts that don't end well. Not sure about novel though.

03-24-2005, 12:42 AM
She might be sending queries to Romance Erotica publishers, where the Romance part of the equation is still important.

03-24-2005, 01:46 AM
Hi maestro, do you lurk here too?:scared:

I once read a novel, some sort of erotica classic, very similar to what you describe, Torin, and it had a very depressing ending -- sex had ruined the guy's life and he was dying, penniless and homeless, in the gutter. A moral, of sorts, just in case somebody like me read it:o.

03-24-2005, 02:00 AM
is probably going to get you as many different answers as there are publishers/readers/writers :)

From our particular voice...

Erotica on it's own tends to connotate ...SEX.
Sensual, earthy, raw, fetish, intense, graphic, lustful, experienced, are all variants of it...but always concentrating heavily on the physical and purest forms of all the senses.

Adding "romantic" in the term doesn't necessarily mean happily ever after. In fact, we'd prefer it to mean that there is significant *emotion* involved between the characters along with the erotic intensity. That still covers a lot of interesting territory from highly positive and happy, to darker with considerable emotional risk...but in our eyes separates it from pornography or "just mindless orgasmic couplings (grin) of hedonistic pleasure." (though I kind of like the sound of that every once in a while!) whew.:faint:

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03-24-2005, 05:29 AM
Thank you, everyone, for your input.

Fresie, this one doesn't have a depressing ending per se. Torin, the hero, has pretty deep feelings for his lover, but she's married and stubborn enough not to break her marriage vows and leave her husband. She promised "till death us do part" and that's what it eventually takes. Unfortunately, by the time that happens, Torin is in a long-term relationship that lasts about 17 years. He and the heroine of this particular story remain close friends even after he gives her the ultimatum "me or your husband."

It's a blend of erotica and fantasy, since the heroine is one of my Forest Folk, able to be wolf or human as she sees fit. Torin is very close to the Folk and he doesn't care. Her husband doesn't know and she can't be completely herself with him as she can with T. It's a fairly complicated relationship, and not a bad story, if I say so myself, but only one of the many that Torin has confided over the years. He's a very chatty character and I have stories about him from the time he was about 8 until he's 40-ish.

One of these days, I'll organize more of his life into salable bits. At least, I hope they'll be salable. :)

Torin's Creator

04-05-2005, 10:59 PM
Don't know if you'll find what you're looking for, but you can check out
some of the markets following this link:


04-05-2005, 11:48 PM
Many erotic romance publishers softne the happy ending requirement. For example Loose Id acceptes 'happy for now'.