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maxmordon
02-23-2008, 10:41 PM
Last week I was watching Madagascar in Fox and I just hate when they put too much cultural references in a kid's movie. While I love some parental bonuses here and there, sometimes is just too much ranging from Twilight Zone to Planet of the Apes; I know that having some pop culture reference on cartoons isn't new (I remember Warner Bros. shorts mentioning Humphrey Bogart or Edward G. Robinson) but MOST of the time this wasn't the core of the joke

MattW
02-24-2008, 11:08 PM
If there's no reason for parents to watch kids films, those parents might actually have to read or talk to their kids. And no studio wants that.

WannabeWriter
02-25-2008, 03:39 AM
Pop culture jokes can work in a satire of culture, but otherwise, they are a sign that the writers cannot come up with anything original.

maxmordon
02-25-2008, 03:47 AM
Pop culture jokes can work in a satire of culture, but otherwise, they are a sign that the writers cannot come up with anything original.

Quite true...

maestrowork
02-25-2008, 06:38 AM
Pop culture jokes can work in a satire of culture, but otherwise, they are a sign that the writers cannot come up with anything original.

That's why the first Shrek movie was so good but the second and third were rather disappointing -- pop culture for pop culture's sake.

Devil Ledbetter
02-25-2008, 06:45 AM
If there's no reason for parents to watch kids films, those parents might actually have to read or talk to their kids. And no studio wants that.Seems to me it's possible to watch films with your kids, read to them and talk to them, if one spends enough time with them.

I guess it's they hey look, aren't we so clever aspect of cultural references in kids' films that sometimes grates.

WildScribe
02-25-2008, 06:51 AM
I've never minded it too much... better (to me) than the absolute boredom of the Doodle Bops...

NikeeGoddess
02-25-2008, 08:52 PM
I just hate when they put too much cultural references in a kid's movie you must really hate the Simpsons then

CaroGirl
02-25-2008, 09:01 PM
you must really hate the Simpsons then
The Simpsons is for kids?

maxmordon
02-25-2008, 09:02 PM
you must really hate the Simpsons then

I like The Simpsons but I think is obvious the downfall from what they used to be on the 90's. I don't like it as much I used to be

DeleyanLee
02-25-2008, 09:12 PM
I know that having some pop culture reference on cartoons isn't new (I remember Warner Bros. shorts mentioning Humphrey Bogart or Edward G. Robinson) but MOST of the time this wasn't the core of the joke

Just as a reference--those cartoons weren't originally aimed at kids. They were aimed at adults.

maxmordon
02-25-2008, 09:18 PM
Just as a reference--those cartoons weren't originally aimed at kids. They were aimed at adults.

Quite true. While the kids' stuff was from Disney and Merry Melodies and such... is kinda funny how everything changes with the time; like for example Sherlock Holmes or Jules Verne's books were written for adults and let's me wondering if the kids from 50 years from now will be reading The Da Vince Code or, a more frightening thought, people will look at movies like Ace Ventura 2 and critizicing why they don't make good movies like that anymore...

Plot Device
02-25-2008, 11:50 PM
I don't typically write comedy films myself because it's not my normal environment. I'm more comfortable in drama and adventure films, but I do jazz it up a bit with tiny touches of humor. Straight comedy is a mystrery to me.

As for animation, it's pretty much mandatory today to make any animated feature be palateble to both the kids AND the adults. They're aiming for as many demographics as possible. And the best type of review is the "something for the whole family" kind or the "young and old alike will love it."

So I say these writers are cauight up in a hit-or-miss scenario of correctly nailing a happy medium between the two. Animated features are VERY expensive to make, and it's a tiny industry (tiny as in it's a very exclusive and closed-shop industry) where very few are allowed into the clubhouse. They are always looking to make somethig new, something never seen or done before, and yet still keep it all kiddie-friendly and still appeal to the adults. So it's hit or miss. They either succeed or they don't. I get annoyed when they fail, and delighted when they succeed. But I am unable to growl and say: "I could do better!" because I know that I probably couldn't.