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NikeeGoddess
02-23-2008, 07:47 PM
there's not a lot of hype about the Oscars this year. i'm sure the writer's strike put a damper on it. but, not only that. many of the nominees are from flicks that many haven't seen or they're not jumping up and down insisting that, "you've got this this flick. it's fantastic!".

in the best picture category only Juno made money probably b/c it attracted a younger audience and was less dramatic and violent than the other choices.

the Oscar nominees usually ignore the business value of flicks and only the best quality flicks are chosen to represent. but can't we have our cake and eat it too?

here are the top 5 Oscar winning flicks that actually made a lot of money. which one is your pick for best picture... regardless of the year?

maestrowork
02-23-2008, 08:06 PM
Not many Best Picture nominees or winners are bona fide blockbusters. Oscars and "box office champs" don't usually match -- that's why we don't usually see summer hits on the Oscar ballots, and "Oscar baits" usually come out in the Fall, a slower season in movie terms.

Juno is popular because it's light, funny, with a happy ending. That's very different from the usual "heavy" Oscar-worthy dramas. Personally I'm not totally sure why Juno was up for Best Picture, but that's my opinion.

Of course there are box office champs that went on to become Best Picture? Why stop at those five? How about Titanic and Lord of the Rings? The Departed? Chicago (which made $170 million)?

By the way, As Good As It Gets didn't win Best Picture. It won Best Actor (Jack Nicholson) and Actress (Helen Hunt).


Domestic box office so far:
There Will Be Blood ($32 million)
Michael Clayton ($47 million)
Atonement ($48 million)
No Country for Old Man ($61 million)
Juno ($101 million)

So while 4 out of 5 are not so-called "blockbusters" they're not necessarily failures either.

Will Lavender
02-23-2008, 08:19 PM
Juno is popular because it's light, funny, with a happy ending. That's very different from the usual "heavy" Oscar-worthy dramas. Personally I'm not totally sure why Juno was up for Best Picture, but that's my opinion.

I think it deserved the nomination. Good film, sneaks up on you with its tremendous heart, although I thought Waitress was every bit as good and had better supporting performances.

The original poster's comment goes back to that age-old adage in the arts (not just in Hollywood): what the critics like, the masses hate. That isn't always true, of course, but there certainly is something to be said in the subtext of Oscar nominations about American culture, what sells in the culture, and what a "good movie" actually is.

I think about this dilemma a lot. Why do movies that are well-made, well-crafted and well-written often fail to make money? A few people walked out of No Country for Old Men when I was watching it, but I thought it was brilliant. That's strange, isn't it?

(I'm not, I realize, into what most Americans are into film-wise. I wouldn't watch Jumper (America's #1 movie) if someone paid me.)

mikeland
02-23-2008, 08:22 PM
Interesting idea for a poll, NikeeGoddess. I love lists. And I'm a bit of a stickler for details.

So, I guess I'm wondering where you got this as a top five. These aren't the top five grossing Best Picture winners. Or are these your personal top five that topped 100 million domestically?

Sigh. OK, I feel like a bit of douchebag here, but I did mention I'm a stickler.

Titanic and LOTR: Return of the King both made more money than Forrest Gump.

Then, you need to slip in Saving Private Ryan and Gone With the Wind in front of Gladiator.

Dances With Wolves, Rain Man, A Beautiful Mind, Chicago, The Sound of Music -- all those films topped As Good As It Gets

Other 100 million Oscar winners in the range of American Beauty and Silence of the Lambs: Shakespeare in Love, Million Dollar Baby, Driving Miss Daisy, Terms of Endearment, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Rocky, The Departed and Platoon.

OK, I'll stop now. I'm sure I've missed some. Did I mention I have obsessive tendencies too?

EDIT: I saw Maestrowork's post after I posted. Good catch on As Good As It Gets. I guess I'm not such a stickler. OK, now I'm going to pay attention to my kids instead of AW.

NikeeGoddess
02-23-2008, 08:26 PM
these were the top five money grossing flicks that were also oscar nominees.
so maybe those other flicks you've mentioned are worthy but they didn't make as much money as these five.

here's something strange. i went to see this flick last night. it is an oscar nominee but in the animation category and not a kiddie flick. so i thought i'd have no problem getting a seat if i got there on time.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0808417/
well, damnit janet - it was SOLD OUT! i was shocked.

maestrowork
02-23-2008, 08:27 PM
80% of the general public don't understand fine arts. Great movies are sometimes like fine arts. A lot of Americans often look for entertainment and not "thought-provoking" or profound.

I will have to disagree on Juno -- I think it's a nice film, with a lot of heart and witty dialogue. But it's not original, the story line and characters are actually rather cliched (ooh, an uptight control-freak mother-to-be!). It's sweet, but not thought-provoking enough. It has by-the-book cinematography and production value, etc. It's not at all in the same league as, say, No Country for Old Men or There Will be Blood or Atonement. Like you said, the Waitress was actually better, as is Knocked Up, which deal with similar topics (unexpected/unwanted pregnancy/relationship, etc.) So I really don't know why Juno's up there instead. It's all about hype.

maestrowork
02-23-2008, 08:29 PM
EDIT: I saw Maestrowork's post after I posted. Good catch on As Good As It Gets. I guess I'm not such a stickler. OK, now I'm going to pay attention to my kids instead of AW.

:) Saving Private Ryan also didn't win Best Picture.

NikeeGoddess
02-23-2008, 08:30 PM
actually, here's the real list - just not my list LOL!
Oscar History: Top-Grossing Oscar Winners
The Highest-Grossing Oscar Winners in The U.S.

Titanic (1997), 600.8

Forrest Gump (1994), 329.7

Gone with the Wind (1939), 198.6

Gladiator (2000), 187.7

Dances With Wolves (1990), 184.2

Chicago (2002), 174.0

Rain Man (1988), 172.8

A Beautiful Mind (2001), 170.8

The Sting (1973), 156.0

Platoon (1986), 138.5

The Godfather (1972), 135.0

maestrowork
02-23-2008, 08:31 PM
these were the top five money grossing flicks that were also oscar nominees.
so maybe those other flicks you've mentioned are worthy but they didn't make as much money as these five..

But why did you list As Good as It Gets? It a) didn't win Best Picture, and b) only made $148 million. There are plenty of other Best Picture WINNERS that actually made more: Titanic, Lord of the Rings, Chicago, to name a few. So I wonder why you put AGAIG up there. ;)

Even the Departed made $137 million and it actually won. If we're going to list nominees then the list will be REALLY long. ;)

NikeeGoddess
02-23-2008, 08:35 PM
honestly - i phucked up. and i don't think i said they were all winners of the "best picture" category although they should be. so if i can fix it i will.

anyhoo - i thought you had some kids to tend to

here's this year's take home on the oscar picks

Juno -- $100,742,315 -- 27th
No Country for Old Men -- $51,956,842 -- 48th
Michael Clayton -- $41,847,879 -- 62nd
Atonement -- $38,158,571 -- 70th
There Will Be Blood -- $15,167,802 -- 123rd

maestrowork
02-23-2008, 08:41 PM
If we're going to list nominees then the list will be REALLY long. ;) So to answer the question: yes, you can have a great, quality award-worthy movie and still make a lot of money.

Actually your figures are off.. See my post #2.

So, they are not necessarily box office duds. And the biggest box office champs don't necessarily win (e.g Clash won over Brokeback Mountain). Sometimes they do (Chicago, for example).

mikeland
02-23-2008, 08:42 PM
:) Saving Private Ryan also didn't win Best Picture.

Yikes. OK, stickler is officially off my resume. I'll just stick with obsessive.

Now, where did those kids go?

Toothpaste
02-24-2008, 12:07 AM
I have to say I find it odd in general the people who complain that movies today suck. They go on and on about how poor most of the major blockbusters are, how stupid they are, how poorly written and performed etc. And then when you point out the nominated films for this year and how they kind of don't suck, and actually demonstrate the the film industry today is still producing some really unique and challenging stuff, they say something like, "Yeah but those films are boring." (not that they have actually seen any of them)

I don't get people. I just don't.

(kind of off topic, sorry, I just had that conversation the other day and it was weird)

Saanen
02-24-2008, 01:31 AM
If it was up to me I'd just give Ratatouille all the Oscars and have done with it. Ratatouille was the high point of an otherwise cruddy movie year. I suspect at least part of the lack of excitement about the Oscars is that there weren't very many good movies released in 2007. Even the big ones that everyone was all excited about (Pirates of the Car. and Spiderman 3 particularly) were duds.

I thought Juno was quite well written and acted. It certainly deserves the nomination, although I suspect it won't win. Movies with happy endings usually don't, seems like.

Last year was all hype and no delivery. I'm hoping 2008 is a little better.

ETA: Oh, and I didn't vote on the poll because I don't like any of those movies. Gladiator was especially HORRIBLE, one of my all-time least favorite movies EVAR.

Toothpaste
02-24-2008, 02:27 AM
Have you seen any of the other nominated films? Have you seen "Away From Her", "I'm Not There", "Persepolis", "Once", "Sweeney Todd"?

I'm not saying you aren't making a call based on experience (how would I know), you are more than free to loathe any of those movies I have just mentioned including the top five nominees, and if your conclusion is based on having seen all these movies too, not just big ones, then you definitely have your opinion. I guess the thing for me is I was really impressed by the crop of films this year, there was some real quality that came out. Again, that is simply my opinion versus yours. There is no real debate here, lol! Still to me 2007 rocked for movies. Maybe it wasn't as hot for blockbusters, but blockbusters don't corner the market in movies.

Oh and I agree, "Rataouille" should be given every award totally! :) That movie was brilliant!

(and don't count out Juno just yet for the happy ending, it is rare, but let's not forget that Shakespeare in Love did win!)

chartreuse
02-24-2008, 03:26 AM
If it was up to me I'd just give Ratatouille all the Oscars and have done with it. Ratatouille was the high point of an otherwise cruddy movie year. I suspect at least part of the lack of excitement about the Oscars is that there weren't very many good movies released in 2007. Even the big ones that everyone was all excited about (Pirates of the Car. and Spiderman 3 particularly) were duds.

I thought Juno was quite well written and acted. It certainly deserves the nomination, although I suspect it won't win. Movies with happy endings usually don't, seems like.

Last year was all hype and no delivery. I'm hoping 2008 is a little better.

ETA: Oh, and I didn't vote on the poll because I don't like any of those movies. Gladiator was especially HORRIBLE, one of my all-time least favorite movies EVAR.

You honestly, honestly didn't like "As Good As It Gets" or "American Beauty?" Seriously?

I haven't seen "Ratatouille" so that doesn't give me much insight into your tastes, but I'm really curious as to what other films you actually think highly of. Care to share?

Saanen
02-24-2008, 03:27 AM
Have you seen any of the other nominated films? Have you seen "Away From Her", "I'm Not There", "Persepolis", "Once", "Sweeney Todd"?

What, me? No, I haven't seen every movie released last year, just the ones I was interested in. I did think there were some good movies in 2007--in addition to Ratatouille, I liked 3:10 to Yuma, Stomp the Yard, Meet the Robinsons, Hairspray, The Simpsons Movie, and I thought the Harry Potter movie, The Golden Compass, I Am Legend, and Bourne Ultimatum weren't bad either. Everything else I saw was pretty much a howling misery, but maybe it's because I had to review Epic Movie early in the year and couldn't get the taste out of my brain for months. That was the worst. movie. ever. I wanted to gouge my eyeballs out while I was watching it. And yet, I had to endure.

Sorry, I seem to have wandered off topic a bit. I do agree with you that it's not possible to really judge a movie without having seen it. On the other hand, it's just not possible to see every movie released--and since I'm not doing reviews anymore (thank gawd), I don't have to try. There are some movies I missed last year that I want to catch on DVD, like Michael Clayton, and in fact I only just saw Juno the other week. Any other recommendations for must-sees?

Saanen
02-24-2008, 03:32 AM
You honestly, honestly didn't like "As Good As It Gets" or "American Beauty?" Seriously?

I haven't seen "Ratatouille" so that doesn't give me much insight into your tastes, but I'm really curious as to what other films you actually think highly of. Care to share?

Ah, well, American Beauty wasn't actually bad, it just isn't the kind of movie I like. I found it depressing and drab, but obviously that's just me. I know I've seen As Good As It Gets, but I swear it made so little impression on me I can barely remember it.

I like animation, actually, ranging from unfathomably weird anime to stupid kid's movies, as long as the artwork is good. So I'm not a typical movie-goer, I guess.

Toothpaste
02-24-2008, 08:04 AM
Then, to offer a recommendation since you asked, check out "Persepolis" if you like animation. The story is a bit disjointed, but the animation is just lovely (and it is going up against Ratatouille, should be interesting to see what happens).

My-Immortal
02-24-2008, 10:58 AM
actually, here's the real list - just not my list LOL!
Oscar History: Top-Grossing Oscar Winners
The Highest-Grossing Oscar Winners in The U.S.

Titanic (1997), 600.8

Forrest Gump (1994), 329.7

Gone with the Wind (1939), 198.6

Gladiator (2000), 187.7

Dances With Wolves (1990), 184.2

Chicago (2002), 174.0

Rain Man (1988), 172.8

A Beautiful Mind (2001), 170.8

The Sting (1973), 156.0

Platoon (1986), 138.5

The Godfather (1972), 135.0

Where's LOTR-Return of the King? I think it should be #2 after Titanic and before Forrest Gump.

WannabeWriter
02-24-2008, 12:52 PM
It's hard to be truly excited about the Oscars when you haven't seen the majority of the nominated films. I have a hard time seeing at least three movies that are ultinately nominated for the biggest Oscars. This year's no exception, because I saw There Will Be Blood, but not the others.

chartreuse
02-24-2008, 08:10 PM
Ah, well, American Beauty wasn't actually bad, it just isn't the kind of movie I like. I found it depressing and drab, but obviously that's just me. I know I've seen As Good As It Gets, but I swear it made so little impression on me I can barely remember it.

I like animation, actually, ranging from unfathomably weird anime to stupid kid's movies, as long as the artwork is good. So I'm not a typical movie-goer, I guess.

Thanks for the clarification.

I'm not a huge fan of animation myself, other than things like Waking Life and A Scanner Darkly. (Do those even count?)

chartreuse
02-24-2008, 08:14 PM
It's hard to be truly excited about the Oscars when you haven't seen the majority of the nominated films. I have a hard time seeing at least three movies that are ultinately nominated for the biggest Oscars. This year's no exception, because I saw There Will Be Blood, but not the others.

That's one more than I've seen. I tried to rent Michael Clayton the other day, but it was out. I really wish that they'd release them all on DVD at least a month before the Oscars. We just don't go out to the theater that much.

I have seen Away from Her, and one or two of the others that have nominees.

But no matter, I'm still excited. Looking forward to Jon Stewart hosting, and it's just generally a fun time. I'm going to get offline soon and start plowing through all my "must-do's" for the day. Got a six-pack of Rogue Dead Guy Ale and we're ordering Indian food for dinner, so I can concentrate on the show.

rhymegirl
02-24-2008, 08:46 PM
I think Michael Clayton is the only nominated film I saw.

Saanen
02-25-2008, 01:14 AM
Then, to offer a recommendation since you asked, check out "Persepolis" if you like animation. The story is a bit disjointed, but the animation is just lovely (and it is going up against Ratatouille, should be interesting to see what happens).

I almost saw Persepolis today--it's on my to-watch list--but went to see Be Kind Rewind instead. It was very good! Not what I expected, but I liked it a lot.

maestrowork
02-25-2008, 06:45 AM
Have you seen any of the other nominated films? Have you seen "Away From Her", "I'm Not There", "Persepolis", "Once", "Sweeney Todd"?


I have seen all of them except I'm Not There.


I guess the thing for me is I was really impressed by the crop of films this year, there was some real quality that came out.


Same here. I've seen all five best picture nominees plus many others on the ballot (La Vie en Rose, Away from Her, etc.) and I agree it's an impressive year for quality movies. I appreciate the variety and also recommend people to go beyond their comfort zones and blockbuster movies (how many Spiderman and Shrek sequels can one endure?) and seek out some independent and foreign films. For example, in a way, it's a shame that not many have seen La Vie en Rose to realize what a mesmerizing performance Marion Cotillard gave.


Oh and I agree, "Rataouille" should be given every award totally! :) That movie was brilliant!


I think the film should have been nominated for Best Picture in addition to Animated Feature.



(and don't count out Juno just yet for the happy ending, it is rare, but let's not forget that Shakespeare in Love did win!)

True, but technically SiL is a drama and Juno is a comedy. Comedies almost never win.

maestrowork
02-25-2008, 06:47 AM
What, me? No, I haven't seen every movie released last year, just the ones I was interested in. I did think there were some good movies in 2007--in addition to Ratatouille, I liked 3:10 to Yuma, Stomp the Yard, Meet the Robinsons, Hairspray, The Simpsons Movie, and I thought the Harry Potter movie, The Golden Compass, I Am Legend, and Bourne Ultimatum weren't bad either. Everything else I saw was pretty much a howling misery, but maybe it's because I had to review Epic Movie early in the year and couldn't get the taste out of my brain for months. That was the worst. movie. ever. I wanted to gouge my eyeballs out while I was watching it. And yet, I had to endure.

Again, I'd suggest watching something other than Hollywood big budget movies. Everyone you mentioned was one of those Hollywood movies. There are so many great movies from the indies and foreign countries.


It's hard to be truly excited about the Oscars when you haven't seen the majority of the nominated films. I have a hard time seeing at least three movies that are ultinately nominated for the biggest Oscars. This year's no exception, because I saw There Will Be Blood, but not the others.

Then why didn't you see those films? Last I checked, they're all still in theaters. Michael Clayton and No Country were re-released for the award season. I think it's strange to say "oh, I can't be excited because I haven't seen the movies" when they're available. I also find it strange that people would say "there are no good movies these years" and then you find out they've only seen Spiderman and Shrek. It's like saying "there's no good food out there" when you find out they only go to McDonald's and Sizzlers.

WerenCole
02-25-2008, 07:02 AM
I am watching the show right now and you know what? That Miley Cyrus is going to be one hot little biscuit when she grows up. . .

Saanen
02-25-2008, 07:43 AM
Again, I'd suggest watching something other than Hollywood big budget movies. Everyone you mentioned was one of those Hollywood movies. There are so many great movies from the indies and foreign countries.

I saw a lot more movies last year than the ones I listed. The ones I listed were the ones I liked. Indie and foreign films can be great, but so can Hollywood big budget movies.

Toothpaste
02-25-2008, 09:24 AM
So I think my boyfriend (Jon Stewart) did a brilliant job, very funny, and it was awesome when he brought the Once girl back out on stage to say her acceptance speech.

And more importantly . . .

I won the Oscar pool at the party I was at!! I think it was my choice of Marion Cotillard that sealed the deal. I never win these sorts of things, so I am actually pretty darn chuffed!

aruna
02-25-2008, 11:48 AM
Full list of Oscar winners and nominations


WINNERS

Best film: No Country for Old Men
Best director: No Country for Old Men, Joel and Ethan Coen
Best actor: Daniel Day-Lewis, There Will Be Blood
Original screenplay: Juno
Documentary feature: Taxi to the Dark Side
Documentary short: Freeheld
Original score: Atonement
Cinematography: There Will Be Blood
Song: Falling Slowly, Once
Foreign language film: The Counterfeiters
Honorary Oscar: Robert Boyle
Film editing: The Bourne Ultimatum
Best actress: Marion Cotillard, La Vie en Rose
Sound mixing: The Bourne Ultimatum
Sound editing: The Bourne Ultimatum
Adapted screenplay: No Country for Old Men, Joel and Ethan Coen
Supporting actress: Tilda Swinton, Michael Clayton
Animated short: Peter and the Wolf
Live action short: Le Mozart des Pickpockets
Supporting actor: Javier Bardem, No Country for Old Men
Art direction: Sweeney Todd
Visual effects: The Golden Compass
Makeup: La Vie en Rose
Animated feature: Ratatouille
Costume: Elizabeth: The Golden Age

maestrowork
02-25-2008, 06:09 PM
It's very satisfying to see Marion Cotillard win! Everything else is kind of predictable. I mean, did anyone really think No Country for Old Men wouldn't win?

chartreuse
02-25-2008, 06:34 PM
So I think my boyfriend (Jon Stewart) did a brilliant job, very funny, and it was awesome when he brought the Once girl back out on stage to say her acceptance speech.



I agree...I loved his remark about Diablo Cody, about taking a paycut since she's moved from exotic dancing to screenwriting.

And speaking of Once, I am SO happy it won for best song...not passing judgment on Enchanted as a film since I haven't seen it but all that schlocky cutsie crap was just about more than I could take.

robeiae
02-25-2008, 07:27 PM
It's very satisfying to see Marion Cotillard win! Everything else is kind of predictable. I mean, did anyone really think No Country for Old Men wouldn't win?
I had my money on Transformers...

ChaosTitan
02-25-2008, 08:17 PM
Then why didn't you see those films? Last I checked, they're all still in theaters. Michael Clayton and No Country were re-released for the award season. I think it's strange to say "oh, I can't be excited because I haven't seen the movies" when they're available. I also find it strange that people would say "there are no good movies these years" and then you find out they've only seen Spiderman and Shrek. It's like saying "there's no good food out there" when you find out they only go to McDonald's and Sizzlers.

My answer to this (even though the question wasn't directed at me) is that none of the nominated films (except Juno, which is on my must-rent list when it's available) looked all that interesting to me. It's my personal film-watching preference. Just because a movie is nominated for a butt-load of awards doesn't mean it's going to appeal to me.

I'll watch No Country for Old Men when it's available on DVD, because I like the Cohen brothers, and I always end up watching the Best Picture winner at some point. But there are lots of folks like me who prefer to watch films at home, and since the majority of those nominated movies are released in December, I see them in the late spring. Long after awards season is over.

It kind of ticks me off when studios give a film a limited December release soley to make it eligible for the Oscars, but don't give it a wide release until January. Yes, yes, they want the film fresh in the movie-goer's mind, but *grrrrr*.

ChunkyC
02-25-2008, 08:33 PM
The original poster's comment goes back to that age-old adage in the arts (not just in Hollywood): what the critics like, the masses hate. That isn't always true, of course, but there certainly is something to be said in the subtext of Oscar nominations about American culture, what sells in the culture, and what a "good movie" actually is.
One thing we have to remember: the Oscars are not for us. We're just voyeurs (the telecast is for us, but that's a different issue). Each award is voted on by the professionals in that craft. Actors vote for actors, directors vote for directors, screenwriters vote for screenwriters. So what we're seeing is an industry handing out their internal awards according to what each craft's practitioners think of the work done by the other practitioners of their craft in the past year. It has nothing (or little) to do with box office numbers or how much the general public liked it.


I have to say I find it odd in general the people who complain that movies today suck. They go on and on about how poor most of the major blockbusters are, how stupid they are, how poorly written and performed etc. And then when you point out the nominated films for this year and how they kind of don't suck, and actually demonstrate the the film industry today is still producing some really unique and challenging stuff, they say something like, "Yeah but those films are boring." (not that they have actually seen any of them)

I don't get people. I just don't.

(kind of off topic, sorry, I just had that conversation the other day and it was weird)
I agree wholeheartedly. :)


It's very satisfying to see Marion Cotillard win! Everything else is kind of predictable. I mean, did anyone really think No Country for Old Men wouldn't win?
Me. I thought "There Will Be Blood" was going to take it. But it just goes to show you; what I thought of those movies had nothing to do with what the members of the Academy of Motion Pictures thought of them. They work within the industry, and bring a different set of sensibilities and criteria to the table when making their decision. Perfect case in point: Ray's an actor and chose the film that won, whereas I'm not and guessed wrong. :)

JLCwrites
02-25-2008, 08:40 PM
I loved the Oscars last night. I am glad to see Daniel took one home. He is a great actor!
I must add.... Stewart was hilarious with his opening act! I haven't laughed that hard in a while!

NikeeGoddess
02-25-2008, 08:48 PM
i was hoping they/jon steward would spend more time talking about the necessity of the writers or at least present the best screenplay award 1st this year. but after the first couple of jokes the screenwriters were sent to the back seats once again. :(

maestrowork
02-25-2008, 09:00 PM
Charlie is right. No matter how we look at it, we're just voyeurs as far as the Oscars are concerned. It's just a SHOW that the producers put out for us -- but the results are very much an industry self-congratulation ceremony. The suspense is good for the office poll. A pat on their own backs for a job well done. And don't forget, it's also an American award, so American films are going to take front stage. Basically, they're saying: this is the Coens' year. Sometimes it has not much to do with whether a film is better than another. Take last year for example. Many think The Departed was not the best film of the year, and far from being Marty Scorcese's best. But they determined it was his year.

We'll have plenty to vote about at the MTV and People's Choice awards. :) I'm sure Transformers and Juno will sweep over there.

It's why I'm impressed with it this year. I think most of the winners deserve the recognition. Daniel Day-Lewis is just incredible, and so is Marion Cotillard (I was afraid they were going with the Academy darling Julie Christie). Also very pleased with Tilda Swinton's win -- it is her year. As much as I like There Will Be Blood, I think it's a bit odd/bizarre for the Academy and also Paul Thomas Anderson will have to wait his turn -- and I am SURE that he will one day be recognized by the academy as long as he keeps giving us original, quality films such as TWBB or Boogie Nights.

I think the biggest winner last night wasn't No Country -- sure, it won 4 awards, but it's expected -- but Bourne Ultimatum. It won all 3 awards it was nominated for. Now that's impressive.

In fact I'm impressed that the BAFTA and Oscars are actually very close this year. Except for Best Film (Atonement won Best Film and No Country won Best Picture), the winners are almost identical (Bourne Ultimatum for Editing and Sound, for example). So I think Atonement should have won based on that, but oh well, No Country is all-American. :)

maxmordon
02-25-2008, 09:11 PM
To be honest; Stewart kinda bored me (or perhaps was his interpreters' fault) my family told me and I quote "we miss that guy from that Danny Devito movie or Steve Martin"

ChunkyC
02-26-2008, 03:41 AM
That reminds me -- the one part of the show that spiked the bore-O-meter for me was that insipid "I'm Halle Berry" bit. It might have been okay as a mediocre skit during one of Saturday Night Live's mediocre seasons, but at the Oscars?! For a moment, I thought the writers had gone back on strike. :D

John Paton
02-26-2008, 03:46 AM
To be honest; Stewart kinda bored me (or perhaps was his interpreters' fault) my family told me and I quote "we miss that guy from that Danny Devito movie or Steve Martin"

Yeah - It's kinda lost a bit of it's sparkle since Bob Hope stopped doing it ! ;)

John Paton
02-26-2008, 03:47 AM
It's very satisfying to see Marion Cotillard win! Everything else is kind of predictable. I mean, did anyone really think No Country for Old Men wouldn't win?

I really really wanted Marion to win and said so in an earlier thread when the noms were in.

I strongly felt she was clearly the best of the best and good on you Hollywood for opening your eyes to the excellence found within a foreign film !!

ChunkyC
02-26-2008, 03:56 AM
...and good on you Hollywood for opening your eyes to the excellence found within a foreign film !!
Indeed. All four major individual awards went to non-Americans:

Best Actor Daniel Day Lewis is Irish
Best Actress Marion Cotillard is French
Best Supporting Actor Javier Bardem is Spanish
Best Supporting Actress Tilda Swinton is British

jst5150
02-26-2008, 04:00 AM
Best Actor Daniel Day Lewis is Irish
Best Actress Marion Cotillard is French
Best Supporting Actor Javier Bardem is Spanish
Best Supporting Actress Tilda Swinton is British
NAFTA is KILLING us. :)

And now, Mr. Day-Lewis climbs back into his suspended animation chamber to be unthawed in four more years for his next Oscar.

dolores haze
02-26-2008, 04:12 AM
So what did you think of Ms. Helen Mirren, jst? Was she ravishing or was she ravishing?

jst5150
02-26-2008, 04:16 AM
DH, I don't even have words. Off the charts stunning.

NikeeGoddess
02-26-2008, 05:13 AM
i thought Heidi Klum looked the most ravishing in that red dress with the high collar (1/2 cruella deville & 1/2 audrey hepburn) but she was quite funny on the red carpet when she listed all the stuff she had in her tightly wound bun: blackberry, camera, a snack to eat during the long show, etc...
http://www.osoblog.tv/2008/02/heidi_klum_and_katherine_heigl.html
and then when she suggested that george clooney would looked better dipped in dark chocolate LOL!!! she's priceless!

oh btw - the lowest tv ratings in several years with only 30 million viewers.

rhymegirl
02-26-2008, 05:22 AM
I picked Daniel Day-Lewis for Best Actor. Got that right.
I picked Cate Blanchett for Best Actress. Got that wrong.
I picked Ruby Dee for Best Supporting Actress. Wrong.
I picked Javier Bardem for Supporting Actor. Got that right.
Picked Atonement for Best Picture. Wrong.

I got 10 out of 24 categories right.

WannabeWriter
02-26-2008, 06:30 AM
One thing I was dissapointed about was how both songs from Enchanted that were nominated for Best Song did not win. I was betting that one of them would.

girlyswot
02-26-2008, 06:49 AM
Indeed. All four major individual awards went to non-Americans:

Best Actor Daniel Day Lewis is Irish
Best Actress Marion Cotillard is French
Best Supporting Actor Javier Bardem is Spanish
Best Supporting Actress Tilda Swinton is British

Just because this thread seems to be one for pedants...

Daniel Day-Lewis actually has dual British and Irish citizenship. So that's two British winners in acting categories. I lost count of how many in the other categories. Just sayin'.

Also, Tilda Swinton's speech was the funniest moment of the night.