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aspier
02-13-2008, 10:10 PM
Incipent? Links to BBC News of the day +

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7242258.stm

http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/jyllands-posten_cartoons/


The Fake Cartoons

Yet when a delegation of Danish imams went to the Middle East to "discuss" the issue of the cartoons with senior officials and prominent Islamic scholars, the imams openly distributed a booklet that showed many more images -- not only the original 12 cartoons (and, oddly, some other unrelated satirical images clipped from newspapers), but three fraudulent anti-Mohammed depictions that were much more offensive than the ones published in Denmark. A complete, full-color reproduction of the entire booklet can be downloaded as a 12mb PDF file at this URL (linked to from this Danish newspaper site -- at the bottom where it says "Islamisk Trossamfunds mappe [PDF]"). (Hat tip: Martin.) It is now thought that these three bonus images are what ignited the outrage in the Muslim world. The newspaper Ekstra Bladet also obtained a copy of the booklet and presented the three offensive images on its Web site (though not in an easy-to-find place). (This Web site also has all 43 pages of the booklet available for download. Wikipedia currently has a page that not only shows each page, but has a translation of the Danish and Arabic text in the booklet as well.) The fake images all look like low-quality photocopies.

http://bibelen.blogspot.com/2006/01/imams-showed-pedophile-mohamed.html

http://bibelen.blogspot.com/

aspier
02-13-2008, 11:05 PM
Someone mailed me this! You think its true?




What an absurd question. People are afraid.'

Williebee
02-13-2008, 11:54 PM
Can you STOP freedom of speech on the web? No.
Can you slow it down? Yes.

Look at China. Web content filtering on a national scale, but information still gets through.

Or, look at the school of your choice. Content Filtering is in place, but kids still get to stuff they "shouldn't" be looking at.

You can't use technology to solve or "handle" what is, essentially, a moral/societal issue.

Demystify it -- before the web, stories of atrocities in various parts of the world still got out. Slowly, but it still got out.

Or was that a redundant question? :)

aspier
02-14-2008, 12:15 AM
Can you STOP freedom of speech on the web? No.
Can you slow it down? Yes.

Look at China. Web content filtering on a national scale, but information still gets through.

Or, look at the school of your choice. Content Filtering is in place, but kids still get to stuff they "shouldn't" be looking at.

You can't use technology to solve or "handle" what is, essentially, a moral/societal issue.

Demystify it -- before the web, stories of atrocities in various parts of the world still got out. Slowly, but it still got out.

Or was that a redundant question? :)

interesting comment - redundant - mm yes and no - its certainly a vehicle getting the content out - a dubble barrelled shot gun

+ someone said somewhere 'freedom of speech is a western concept'