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III
12-16-2007, 07:23 AM
Though it may seem short-sighted to pick a recent film, I'd have to say the battle for Helm's Deep in The Two Towers was the best battle scene in movie history. What say you?

Vincent
12-16-2007, 07:24 AM
Though it may seem short-sighted to pick a recent film, I'd have to say the battle for Helm's Deep in The Two Towers was the best battle scene in movie history. What say you?

Yeah, I saw your thread title and came in to write just that.

EDIT:

Rorke's Drift from Zulu is good too.

Straka
12-16-2007, 07:30 AM
The Siege of Helm's Deep was extremely well done I thought. In John Keegan's sense of the word "battle" it fits perfectly.

Zulu is damn good too.

Ziljon
12-16-2007, 07:31 AM
I was coming in to say that too! I was amazed at the editing and the sound, there was such clarity in the mayhem.

wyntermoon
12-16-2007, 07:32 AM
I loved Kenneth Branagh's Battle of Agincourt from Henry IV. Beautifully filmed and the musical score was perfect.

KTC
12-16-2007, 07:34 AM
When Eddie gets it in Rocky Horror Picture Show. Hands down. Epic! Super Colossal!

Shadow_Ferret
12-16-2007, 07:35 AM
The beach landing in Saving Private Ryan.

wyntermoon
12-16-2007, 07:53 AM
Godzilla vs Mothra

nevada
12-16-2007, 08:18 AM
I'm with the ferret. Saving Private Ryan. It, I think, portrayed a reality of a battle. Confusion, constant overwhelming sound, frenzy.

I loved Helm's Deep, when Gandalf comes over the hill with the Rohirram i had tears in my eyes.

But best? Saving Private Ryan. Hands down.

Tony_LaRocca
12-16-2007, 08:39 AM
OK, Helm's Deep goes without saying. Saving Private Ryan is by far the most realistic. But my personal favorite is the battle between the Reliant and the Enterprise at the end of The Wrath of Kahn. I know it's based on submarine battles, but that's the only time in all the Star Trek universe that I ever got the feeling of what it would be like to be in battle on a starship.

Joe270
12-16-2007, 11:23 AM
I'm with the ferret. Saving Private Ryan. It, I think, portrayed a reality of a battle. Confusion, constant overwhelming sound, frenzy.

What struck me about that scene was the waste, the terrible waste of life.

I broke down in tears. I'm a tough old salt, Merchant Marine hardened for over twenty-five years, but that scene just cut me to the quick.

Although not a battle scene, the effect of "Deer Hunter's" cage scene, where they're in the cage in waist deep water, and one says 'I just wanna go home'. There in way too deep then. The tremendous sadness in that line, absolute brilliance on the writer's part.

dpaterso
12-16-2007, 01:35 PM
Some good choices thus far.

Many others belong here. But I'd like to suggest,

Bonaparte meets Wellesley at Waterloo (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066549/).

Brannagh's vibrant adaptation of Shakespeare's Henry V (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097499/).

Errol cuts a swathe in The Charge of the Light Brigade (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0027438/).

The original 300 Spartans (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055719/).


-Derek

kristie911
12-16-2007, 02:27 PM
As soon as I saw the title I also thought of LOTR battle at Helm's Deep. Definitely my favorite...but I'm a sucker for pretty much any epic battle scene.

maestrowork
12-16-2007, 05:29 PM
Braveheart. Black Hawk Down. Empire Strikes Back. Tora! Tora! Tora!

Straka
12-16-2007, 06:46 PM
The original 300 Spartans (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055719/)

If that's the movie I'm thinking about that was great. It had the pacing of Zulu and actually showed accurate hoplite combat.

Perks
12-16-2007, 07:23 PM
I like a battle scene. All the ones mentioned here are very good; thrilling even. Another one that I particularly loved was both big dragon battles with VanZan, Quinn and the dragon in Reign of Fire.

I'm one of only eleven people in the world who love that movie, but there you go.

ChunkyC
12-16-2007, 07:35 PM
Pretty much all the scenes I would have picked have been mentioned.

The beach landing in Saving Private Ryan was incredible, and is the one I would pick in the category of depicting a real life event.

For fictional battles, Helm's Deep tops my list, though I have a particular liking for The Wrath of Khan.

Others that may not meet the criteria of being an all-out battle, but that came to mind are:

633 Squadron (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057811/) -- about a WWII RAF raid on a target in a Norwegian fjord. The raid at the climax of the film is incredibly intense. It's based on a novel that itself was inspired by a number of real missions carried out by the RAF. According to Wikipedia, George Lucas used the raid sequence in this film as inspiration for the raid on the death star in Star Wars: A New Hope. I don't doubt it for a minute.

Speaking of Star Wars -- for one-on-one battles in fiction, imo Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Maul in The Phantom Menace is the best light-sabre duel in all of the Star Wars movies.

dpaterso
12-16-2007, 07:48 PM
Helm's Deep! Helm's Deep! It's all I hear! What's so great about the battle at Helm's Deep? Friggin Elf prancing and surfboarding around twanging 10 arrows a second into anything that moves while all the other Elves need to be told when to shoot -- they could have won the battle in less than a minute if they'd just fired at will until their quivers were empty! Friggin Dwarf falling on his arse at every opportunity and hardly able to pick himself up. That friggin Elf-lover Aragorn making a complete cod of the defense strategy. Just as well someone came along and rescued them.

-Derek

ChaosTitan
12-16-2007, 07:50 PM
Speaking of Star Wars -- for one-on-one battles in fiction, imo Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Maul in The Phantom Menace is the best light-sabre duel in all of the Star Wars movies.

I'm kind of partial to Yoda v. Dooku. ;)

My favorite battle scene: The Battle of Little Round Top in Gettysburg.

ChunkyC
12-16-2007, 08:50 PM
I'm kind of partial to Yoda v. Dooku. ;)
But you couldn't see what was going on. Too dark, and Yoda was bouncing around like a bean inside one of Carmen Miranda's maracas. :)

Toothpaste
12-16-2007, 09:11 PM
Okay I've never seen it, so maybe some can weigh in, but I read that despite all its flaws, one of the best things about Alexander was its battle sequences. How you could really see the tactics at play and there was a great sense of people being pawns for some single king. Now like I said, I never saw it, so I can't say.

For me I think I agree with everyone, but Helm's Deep sticks out to me because aside from its awesomeness, the actors had THREE months of night shoots. And that, dude, I honestly don't know how they survived that!

Serenity
12-16-2007, 09:37 PM
Can we include the HBO miniseries-type movies? Because if so, then my vote goes for any one of the battle scenes in Band of Brothers, but especially Bastogne.

Joe270
12-17-2007, 02:22 AM
Freakin' Speirs. He takes command, runs through the entire German line to link up communications, then he runs back again. That was uncommon valor.

If I wasn't true, if it was a fictional scene, it never would have played well at all.

But Easy finally got the leader they needed, one they had no problem respecting.

Great scene.

Ol' Fashioned Girl
12-17-2007, 02:42 AM
The final sword fight between Rob Roy and Archie in 'Rob Roy'.

Straka
12-17-2007, 02:51 AM
IMy favorite battle scene: The Battle of Little Round Top in Gettysburg.

That was great, specially when they charge at the end. He was a pretty amazing guy.

katiemac
12-17-2007, 03:05 AM
The Helm's Deep battle is on TBS right ... now.

Straka
12-17-2007, 03:17 AM
My g/f just turned it on in fact!

Bmwhtly
12-17-2007, 12:44 PM
633 Squadron (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057811/) -- about a WWII RAF raid on a target in a Norwegian fjord. The raid at the climax of the film is incredibly intense. It's based on a novel that itself was inspired by a number of real missions carried out by the RAF. According to Wikipedia, George Lucas used the raid sequence in this film as inspiration for the raid on the death star in Star Wars: A New Hope. I don't doubt it for a minute.I thought it was Dambusters that inspired George Lucas. Although, I think that was for the Battle on Hoth.
Anyway, I really do prefer Dambusters to 633. And not just because I managed to see Dambusters at the cinema.


Anywho, best battle?
Saving Private Ryan is very very good, but it strikes me as less of a battle and more of a charnel house.
Unless you take the final battle, rather than the beach landings.


If you could class hand-to-hand as battling, River taking the bar apart in Serenity should be Way up the list.

Dakota Waters
12-17-2007, 01:42 PM
The Helm's Deep battle is on TBS right ... now.

Haha, we were watching the same thing at the same time.

And yes, when I opened this thread, that's what I was thinking, too.

ChunkyC
12-17-2007, 07:12 PM
I thought it was Dambusters that inspired George Lucas. Although, I think that was for the Battle on Hoth.
Anyway, I really do prefer Dambusters to 633. And not just because I managed to see Dambusters at the cinema.
Dambusters certainly was another excellent 'raid' film, all the more so because it was a dramatization of real events. It's a great example of wartime exigencies driving technological innovation.

Bmwhtly
12-17-2007, 07:21 PM
Dambusters certainly was another excellent 'raid' film, all the more so because it was a dramatization of real events. It's a great example of wartime exigencies driving technological innovation.Nail on the head.
The raid is superb. Particularly the cockpit footage.
But the portrayal of Barnes-Wallace really makes it.

robeiae
12-17-2007, 08:11 PM
Best battle?

The end of Gallipoli.

Runner-up, A Bridge Too Far parachute drop and the the following battle.

cray
12-17-2007, 08:21 PM
family guy -- the fight with the chicken.
awesome.

robeiae
12-17-2007, 08:34 PM
:e2smack:

ChunkyC
12-17-2007, 08:36 PM
family guy -- the fight with the chicken.
awesome.
LOL!

Or how about Alexis vs Krystle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_iK1AvZF3o). :D

Tiger
12-17-2007, 10:58 PM
Liked the documentary style of "Saving Private Ryan."

I thought "We Were Soldiers" could have been better. I didn't understand why a North Vietnamese regular with a full magazine in his AK 47 would get within ten feet of a group of American officers and die trying to bayonet one of them.

Was counting coup one of their traditions?

Meerkat
12-17-2007, 11:27 PM
My nominations would be:

Opening sequence of Enemy at the Gates (reinforcements sent unarmed into Stalingrad);

Final sequence of Saving Private Ryan (from moment tanks rumble ground to alamo);

Finest hour, set to music in Battle of Britain.

Higgins
12-17-2007, 11:52 PM
Though it may seem short-sighted to pick a recent film, I'd have to say the battle for Helm's Deep in The Two Towers was the best battle scene in movie history. What say you?

All of Children of Men...best fighting ever

Oh, and of course, Rough Riders...

maestrowork
12-17-2007, 11:59 PM
LOL!

Or how about Alexis vs Krystle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_iK1AvZF3o). :D

Kelly & Justin. The battle scene was to die for.

Higgins
12-18-2007, 12:16 AM
I thought it was Dambusters that inspired George Lucas. Although, I think that was for the Battle on Hoth.
Anyway, I really do prefer Dambusters to 633. And not just because I managed to see Dambusters at the cinema.


Anywho, best battle?
Saving Private Ryan is very very good, but it strikes me as less of a battle and more of a charnel house.
Unless you take the final battle, rather than the beach landings.


If you could class hand-to-hand as battling, River taking the bar apart in Serenity should be Way up the list.

Sometimes its the battles you don't see...as when River chops up the Reavers behind closed doors and is disclosed with a dripping ax a bit later.

Sophia
12-18-2007, 12:45 AM
For a different type of battle, I like the final Global Thermonuclear War game from Wargames, when Joshua plays against itself. I found it really thrilling watching it for the first time when I was little, and it still feels well done to me now.

For a fight scene, the lobby scene from the first Matrix film is probably the most memorable. It had me both laughing and really enjoying it as an exhilarating scene. Another was Inigo and Westley's duel in The Princess Bride. Good character interaction is a winner every time. :)

My-Immortal
12-18-2007, 12:49 AM
I agree with pretty much all of the movie battles listed.

There's something about hand-to-hand combat though....such as in The Patriot. A bit gritty...

Or has anyone mention The Last of the Mohicans with Daniel Day Lewis? (speaking of him - how about the battle(s) in The Gangs of New York)

Not 'epic battles' per se - but brutal and gritty nonetheless...

Take care all -

Higgins
12-18-2007, 12:55 AM
I agree with pretty much all of the movie battles listed.

There's something about hand-to-hand combat though....such as in The Patriot. A bit gritty...

Or has anyone mention The Last of the Mohicans with Daniel Day Lewis? (speaking of him - how about the battle(s) in The Gangs of New York)

Not 'epic battles' per se - but brutal and gritty nonetheless...

Take care all -

You're right. Last of the Mohicans has some great fights. Magwa versus the guys he is supposed to be guiding is just beautiful...and when Chingatchkook hurls the flipping ax thing BEST WHACKY weapon ever...

But the chunk of debris in the face at the back door in Children of men beats even Last of the Mohicans, I think.

My-Immortal
12-18-2007, 12:59 AM
You're right. Last of the Mohicans has some great fights. Magwa versus the guys he is supposed to be guiding is just beautiful...and when Chingatchkook hurls the flipping ax thing BEST WHACKY weapon ever...

But the chunk of debris in the face at the back door in Children of men beats even Last of the Mohicans, I think.

Both CoM and LofM were great movies with great battle scenes - and both got very gritty, but to me CoM was an ugly kind of gritty and LofM had a beautiful kind of gritty (if that makes sense). Both were haunting in their own unique way - and it was mostly due to the cinematography of both.

Take care -

III
12-18-2007, 01:01 AM
I agree with pretty much all of the movie battles listed.

There's something about hand-to-hand combat though....such as in The Patriot. A bit gritty...

Or has anyone mention The Last of the Mohicans with Daniel Day Lewis? (speaking of him - how about the battle(s) in The Gangs of New York)

Not 'epic battles' per se - but brutal and gritty nonetheless...

Take care all -

I loved the last duel in Rob Roy.

Higgins
12-18-2007, 01:10 AM
Both CoM and LofM were great movies with great battle scenes - and both got very gritty, but to me CoM was an ugly kind of gritty and LofM had a beautiful kind of gritty (if that makes sense). Both were haunting in their own unique way - and it was mostly due to the cinematography of both.

Take care -

Makes sense. In LofM violence constructs societies and so it has to look nice. In CoM violence illustrates the collapse of society and so it has to look less than good...but I found the weird sloppiness of the fighting in CoM strangely cathartic while LofM left me feeling that what the world really needed was more Hurons like Magwa. Actually I can't remember if his Huroniality is a big deal in the movie. I just got an impassioned lecture on the beauties of LofM (the book!) from a beautiful historian of pornography a few weeks ago and I still haven't regained my perspective.

Shadow_Ferret
12-18-2007, 01:21 AM
Does the Bruce Lee fight sequence of Enter the Dragon inside the evil guy's hideout count as a battle scene or is that just a fight scene since it's only Bruce Lee against a ton of baddies? I don't mean the ending fight free-for-all, but the scene where he's sneaking around, drops a snake in with the communications workers, and ends with him trapped in the elevator or some sort of little room.

jst5150
12-18-2007, 01:25 AM
-- In the 1980 version of "Flash Gordon," when Flash decides to take on the all Ming's Guards and uses the Fabrigé Egg-looking trophy as a football. Flash is later executed.

-- The final scene in "Dogs of War" with Christopher Walken, just after he says "Kimba ... Kick his ass!"

-- Any fight scene from "Ghost in the Shell"

-- Any battle from Kurosawa's "Ran"

JLCwrites
12-18-2007, 01:25 AM
Or has anyone mention The Last of the Mohicans with Daniel Day Lewis? (speaking of him - how about the battle(s) in The Gangs of New York)

I was just going to say Last of the Mohicans. When Webb's army was run down by the Hurons. Awesome... (Goosebumps)

Voyager
12-18-2007, 01:26 AM
The most heartbreaking battle scene I've ever seen, and I may be prejudiced :D, is the final battle scene in The Last Samurai.

My-Immortal
12-18-2007, 04:03 AM
Brandon Lee's fight scene near the end of The Crow...

Jackie Chan in some of his earlier movies...

But, I suppose these aren't 'battle' scenes.

Does Peter Jackson's King Kong count? Kong vs the dinosaurs....or the airplanes....?

Homewrecker
12-18-2007, 04:23 AM
Ghostbusters or Hot Fuzz. But I think Rocky Horror may trump these.

Bmwhtly
12-19-2007, 06:19 PM
Hot Fuzz.Hmmm... I wouldn't call the gun fights outstanding.

But Angel and his baton vs the Old man and his sword deserves a mention.

Actually, the final battle between Angel and Timothy Dalton really should be there too.

dpaterso
12-19-2007, 06:27 PM
I wonder how the battle scenes in The Seven Samurai (2008) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0814315/) will compare with those in the original epic Shichinin no samurai (1954) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047478/).

-Derek

III
12-19-2007, 06:44 PM
I wonder how the battle scenes in The Seven Samurai (2008) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0814315/) will compare with those in the original epic Shichinin no samurai (1954) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047478/).

-Derek

They're doing an official remake instead of just ripping off the premise? That stinks. That's one film that should be left as part of movie history. It was perfect.

Christine N.
12-19-2007, 09:04 PM
What a bunch of Hoity-toities you are :)

No one's yet mentioned the battle between Optimus Prime and Megatron at the end of TRANSFORMERS???

I mean, I like Helm's Deep (but I think Pellenor Fields was better), but come on, TRANSFORMERS rocked! :D

ChunkyC
12-19-2007, 09:28 PM
Come to think of it, I quite enjoyed the running battle between Arnie and the liquid metal Terminator in Terminator II.

dpaterso
12-19-2007, 09:35 PM
Hey! Save the one-on-one fights for the "best movie fights" thread! This here's the battles thread!

-Derek

Christine N.
12-19-2007, 09:38 PM
Okay, okay. How about the final battle in the movie then? Humans and Autobots on one side, Decepticons on the other?

It rocked.

Varthikes
12-20-2007, 03:52 AM
The battle in Star Wars VI. The best battle to ever come to the big screen, I think.

Also liked the battles between the Enterprise and the Reliant in Star Trek II and between the Enterprise and the bird-of-prey in Star Trek VI. :)

ChunkyC
12-20-2007, 04:55 AM
Hey! Save the one-on-one fights for the "best movie fights" thread! This here's the battles thread!

-Derek
I'd pick a fight with you, but we'd have to move. ;)

Oh, what the heck.... :e2moon:

dpaterso
12-20-2007, 05:11 AM
Okay, okay. How about the final battle in the movie then? Humans and Autobots on one side, Decepticons on the other?
It rocked.
I vote for disqualification on the grounds of CGI vs. CGI has very little resonance.


The battle in Star Wars VI. The best battle to ever come to the big screen, I think.
<counting on fingers> You mean the Ewoks? No, wait, that was V... who battled whom in VI?


I'd pick a fight with you, but we'd have to move. ;)
Oh, what the heck.... :e2moon:
This thread is SO reported and you, my friend, are in big trouble.

-Derek

Varthikes
12-20-2007, 07:24 AM
<counting on fingers> You mean the Ewoks? No, wait, that was V... who battled whom in VI?

Yes, it's the one with the Ewoks. But, it's not the Ewoks that I like. I like the space battle. Where the Alliance Fleet went full force against the Empire.

Christine N.
12-21-2007, 05:46 AM
Yeah, but it was cool! And there were some people involved. I mean, Sam saved the day, right?

And most of the people(and Uruk Hai, I'd guess) in the battle of Helm's Deep were computer generated anyway. :tongue