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We've had loads of threads about backing up your work. I want to reinforce this and encourage everyone who has a disaster or a near miss to talk about it here, because the reminders just saved my sanity. Recently someone had lost some writing and a thread played out here and I backed up everything I've got after reading that thread.

Today, through some stupid error on my part and ridiculously lax security logic on my digital camera, I erased my entire 'My Documents' folder. As it wasn't done through Windows, it bypassed the recycle bin altogether and wiped it clean.

Everything in my 'My Documents' folder was unrecoverable to me without losing my machine for a week and incurring a hefty expense. Even then, the guy said that a full recovery was a bit much to hope for.

Because of the reminders posted here, I only lost a few photos and the most recent updates on my WIP, which I think I can recreate without much fuss.

AW saved my butt by putting me on a schedule of safeguarding my work.

Do it. Do it now. And do it often.

(And keep the back-ups organized. I didn't do a great job of that, so the restoring was more of a hassle than it needed to be. You just don't need that on top of the rattling you take when you realize you can't unpush that button.)
 

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Wow. Through your camera? That's a new one.

I'm glad the damage wasn't too godawful, although I'm sure it's still irksome at least. I'm sure we can have a whip 'round and everybody can send you some replacement photos.

As for the WIP, I'll just stay out of your way until you're rolling again. Nobody else can do your words. Which I love.

Karma owes you -- I hope the payback is prompt!
 
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You know what I'm doing as we speak? Copying everything onto CDs and my desktop computer, and also copying my word documents folder onto a pen drive.

Hell, I'll copy my writing onto my damn mobile phone as well!
 

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You're very kind, Poet sir. :) I'm kinda sad 'cause I lost my original profile picture for AW. My daughter had taken it and I always liked that picture. Lots of fun memories about starting up here.

I tell you what - live and learn. I've gotten everything reorganized, so tomorrow, all I have to do is go back and rewrite what I did today. It wasn't much. Thank god for too busy weeks!
 

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Thanks for the reminder. No one wants to lose all their hard work. I'd email myself my wip, but I haven't actually worked on it today.
 

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Perks, isn't that profile picture the one you have on mySpace?

And I'm sorry about your camera eating your doc file! (I didn't know that was possible, and sure hope mine doesn't know that trick.)
 
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Wow, that sucks, Jaymes. I'm glad you got most of it back, though.

Let me ask you: Weren't you asking about online backups recently? Or was that someone else? I started using an online backup for my writing a few weeks ago and so I'm just curious what you're using for a backup.
 

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i just did.

I do a lot of work on my usb drive. I can use it at home, take it to work, etc. I just realized today that if I lost it I'd lose a lot of work.
I saved it to my home hard drive, and on my yahoo! briefcase. I have my first novel stored the same way, all drafts, separate folders, etc.

thanks for the reminder! I've done a lot of work recently that wasn't backed up and I'd hate to lose it.
 

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oh dang-so glad you had a backup.
off to do mine now...
 

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i just realized. I don't have back up of any poetry. I don't even have it saved anywhere but AW. (not that I am worried AW will lose it, but you know, it has happened before). :smirk:

I should maybe go find those and save them somewhere, eh?

I'd hate to lose them all.

thanks for getting me thinking.
 

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Things like that happen to the best of us, sometimes. Lack of coffee, perhaps, or sniffed a bit too much paint thinner... anyway, if you have just "delete/empty trashcan" your folders and files, you can still recover them in most cases. It requires a bit of tech support, but it can be done. I have restored an entire "wiped" hard drive before with 98% recovery rate.

Of course, the best thing is what you've done -- back up.

I'm so glad it worked out for you. I back up religiously -- paranoid because I have lost important work before.
 

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I'm not here.

(p.s. I use .Mac plus jumpdrives plus DVDs plus external drive plus... I am a nut when it comes to backing up).
 

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Copying recent files to drive D: which is a FAT formatted hard drive, so if this computer kicks the bucket (the power supply already had a case of Bloated Capacitors - cheap xxxx crap!), I can move the drive to my old, OLD, win98 machine and still read the files.
 

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Liar. That thingmajig below your avatar is all green and stuff.

Seriously though, online updates are great. Files are backed up almost as soon as you edit them, if you're online. And I've got important emails, notes and other assorted software files set to back up as well.

It's worth checking out. X-drive is considered good as well.
 

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O.M.G. Remember about a year ago when I lost everything? Yeah. I feel for you and I'm SO glad it wasn't a total disaster.
 

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I'm all about my external hard drive. It's my baby.

Good reminder; I have a few things that haven't made it on the external in the past couple weeks.
 

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Thank you for that reminder, Perks! I'm sorry you're going to have to redo some stuff, but I'm SO GLAD you didn't lose your whole documents folder!!
 

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A couple of people have asked how this could happen with a camera, so I'll try to explain it. I have an old Fuji FinePix. To get the photos off my camera, I plug it into my laptop with a USB. Then I edit the photos in the Fuji software. Once I'm satisfied with the file, I drag and drop it into 'My Documents', from there I usually upload it to my online photo warehouse for hardcopies and whatnot.

This old Fuji software has a quirk that doesn't actually move a file when you drag and drop, only copies it. So, at the end of everything, I go back to the Fuji software and hit File-Delete which clears the camera and the redundant file in the Fuji program.

Apparently, I had not clicked back into the Fuji software yesterday and when I pressed File, then Delete. There was no warning or anything that would lead me to think that things were out of the ordinary. The whole 'My Documents' (including the folder itself) was ripped right out of the Windows operating system.

Since I didn't delete the contents in Windows (which is smart enough not to allow me to delete the entire folder) it was unrecoverable through the trash/recycle bin. It just disappeared entirely.

I made a second mistake - according to the computer specialist who held my hand through this ordeal. Because the whole folder was gone, I tried doing a System Restore to a saved point earlier in the day. It brought the folder back, but not any of the files. The guy told me that if you ever have a huge data loss, you need to shut the machine down immediately and take it to an expert, as anything you try to do is possibly overwriting the lost data.
 
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Let me ask you: Weren't you asking about online backups recently? Or was that someone else? I started using an online backup for my writing a few weeks ago and so I'm just curious what you're using for a backup.
Ha! That was me and I'm going to look into the online auto-back ups right away.

Luckily, the backups I had were sufficient. It's just weird that this could happen. The expert I spoke with said that there are still some devices on there that can allow a stunt like this. Obviously. Ouch.

Be careful - it's a jungle out there.