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Inspired
02-12-2005, 10:56 PM
What's the reputation thing with the scales? What is the purpose?

JennaGlatzer
02-12-2005, 11:05 PM
It really has two purposes: helping members figure out who to listen to, and helping mods figure out if certain members are causing trouble.

Once your own reputation is at 20 (everyone starts at 10), you can start giving and taking points to/from others. So, if you really like someone's posts, or you respect his/her advice, etc., you can add points to that person's reputation. That helps newbies realize that this is someone to trust.

On the other hand, if you think a member is giving out bad advice, is being cruel or snotty or dishonest, etc., you can "disapprove," thus taking away reputation points.

Mods have double the power when it comes to giving and taking points, and for every 100 days or 1000 posts a member is here, he/she gets more power, too.

The mods will take those reputation points into consideration if they're considering warning or banning anyone, and I'll take them into consideration if I'm considering "promoting" anyone.

I may also give extra priviledges to members with good reputation scores as time goes on. Have to see how well we all use this feature.

reph
02-12-2005, 11:26 PM
I've attracted two reputation votes already – found them in my "User CP" –and I haven't been here for a full day yet. One had a message, a positive one, and the other had no message, so it could have been a vote for me or against me.

They're anonymous. That's a little creepy.

bikrpreacher
02-12-2005, 11:50 PM
when you recieve positive rep. you get the green bars, neg. is red, that's how you know rather or not they are for or against you. Also, the grey means that the user that gave it to you didn't have enough rep. of his own to affect yours much.

Inspired
02-12-2005, 11:56 PM
Cool feature! Not quite the popularity contest I thought it might be.

CACTUSWENDY
02-13-2005, 04:09 AM
:Jump: so i guess my baton twrilling and "world peace" speech is out?....nice to know content is better then a contest........

love ya alllll.......wendy...;) ...(i think i just like to play with the little smiley faces......they are such a trip.

:Jaw: ........thanks again....

Cate
02-13-2005, 04:13 AM
I gave you the one with no message Reph--still figuring out how to do everything!
Cate

MacAllister
02-13-2005, 04:14 AM
and I gave you the other one, Reph :)

JennaGlatzer
02-13-2005, 04:17 AM
...all day. Didn't realize they came out anonymous. I could have been one of your drive-by rep-givers.

Anyway. Thus far, only one person has been given a negative reputation comment. (Not you, Reph.) All the others are positive.

I changed the paramaters a little, too--

All members now have the ability to award or take away one rep point from other members. You can't keep hitting the same person over and over, though-- you have to give rep to at least 10 people before you can hit the same person again.

Admins (Charlie and me) can give/take away 10 rep points at a time.

Mods-- I haven't figured it out yet. I'm trying to make it so mods have double the rep-giving power, but haven't found the option.

All members gain in rep-giving power over time, posts, and as their own reps increase.

As the rules stand now, you gain an extra point of power every time you post 1000 times, are here 100 days, or get 100 rep points of your own. (So your rep-giving powers go to 2 points at a time instead of 1 point.)

JennaGlatzer
02-13-2005, 04:19 AM
when you give rep, just sign your comment. I just started doing that. So now my comments say stuff like, "Excellent advice about rain gear. --Jenna."

JennaGlatzer
02-13-2005, 04:27 AM
User is infamous around these parts

User isn't playing nicely with others

User has shown some questionable behavior

User is an unknown quantity at this point

User is on a distinguished road

User is well-respected

User has a spectacular aura

User is a jewel

User is a glorious beacon of light

User is a splendid one to behold

User has much to be proud of

User should run for President

User has a golden reputation

MacAllister
02-13-2005, 04:31 AM
User has a spectacular aura

User is a jewel

User is a glorious beacon of light

User is a splendid one to behold

:ROFL: Oh good heavens....the road to enlightenment...

Birol
02-13-2005, 04:31 AM
The rep points I've been given all say where they came from?

Jenna, I think the mods can give out rep points at 10 per, too. The only time it didn't jump by 10-points was when it was given by a regular member.

JennaGlatzer
02-13-2005, 04:35 AM
More tweaking.

I just changed it-- rep points are no longer anonymous. Now everyone can see who they came from.

The 10 point thing-- I was going in there and manually changing every 0 to 10 (earlier today, no one's rep-giving was counting because I had it set that people's rep-giving wouldn't count until they reached minimal posting/rep paramaters themselves). I got rid of the parameters and put back the defaults, but so far can't find an option for mods, only admins.

awatkins
02-13-2005, 05:48 AM
I don't get it....

Birol
02-13-2005, 06:10 AM
What don't you get, Anne?

awatkins
02-13-2005, 06:13 AM
I don't understand the reputation thing. Is it like a score of some sort for quality of posts?

awatkins
02-13-2005, 06:22 AM
Never mind. I read back over the thread and think I figured it out. Thanks. :)

reph
02-13-2005, 06:54 AM
Somehow I've picked up 25 points already. Maybe this reputation system isn't so bad after all. (:wink wink, or however you spell it here)

Are we sure "should run for president" is a GOOD thing?

Inspired
02-13-2005, 07:33 AM
Are we sure "should run for president" is a GOOD thing?

Yeah, maybe that should go with "User has shown some questionable behavior."

JanaLanier
02-13-2005, 07:07 PM
Okie dokie. Now I get it.

Now off to fly around and give points to all the superstars on the board...:)

Birol
02-13-2005, 09:41 PM
Glad you found this thread Jana. I was just coming here to grab the URL for you. I haven't received any negative points yet (and that is not a suggestion) but reading the positive comments I've received gives me a warm fuzzy, which is nice, especially on a dreary, rainy February day.

Cate
02-14-2005, 01:07 AM
I like the rep thing! I think it can help the newbies figure out who kinda knows what they are talking about . . . .
Cate

JennaGlatzer
02-14-2005, 02:33 AM
If you click "Members list" on top, you can sort it by reputation, too, so you can see where you stand. Keep in mind that a lot of people are at 10, which means they haven't received any rep points yet.

reph
02-14-2005, 03:53 AM
I thought about giving points to people who (in my humble judgment, of course) had proved themselves to be outstanding citizens on the old board, for the guidance of newbies, but a lot of them are already mods and don't need my wimpy 1 point each.

Can you tell I do a lot of dialogue with myself before making decisions?

Richard
02-14-2005, 03:56 AM
Only a problem if you found yourself getting out-voted!

Mistook
02-14-2005, 08:01 AM
Sorry, at the risk of my own rep, I just couldn't leave this topic alone. Here are my humble suggestions for some additional tiers to the rep system...


USER:

"...is not playing with a full deck."

"...has issues."

"...tends to post drunk, so beware!"

"...is a sanctimonious snob, but usually right."

"...is a right mixer 'e is"

"...is just plain smarter than you."

"...is on the highway to Hell."

"...has made some bad decisions in life."

"...has no right to be so clever."

"...is too hip for his/her own good"

"...knows just enough to be dangerous."

"...is Uncle Jim."

"...really could benefit from therapy."

JennaGlatzer
02-14-2005, 08:05 AM
:roll:

I love them.

But what happens if someone else gets to be Uncle Jim?

(Mac's in the lead, I might mention, which would mean she'd probably be Uncle Jim before Uncle Jim was Uncle Jim.)

(My head hurts.)

Mistook
02-14-2005, 08:17 AM
(Mac's in the lead, I might mention, which would mean she'd probably be Uncle Jim before Uncle Jim was Uncle Jim.)

That kinda puts things in perspective, if even Uncle Jim has to re-establish his "street creds". I feel like we all left in a spaceship to start over on an alien planet.

MacAllister
02-14-2005, 09:25 AM
:ROFL: I am NOT Uncle Jim, and I don't play him on TV...

Heh--I think the points thing will settle into something more reflective of reality, as the newness wears off.

CaoPaux
02-14-2005, 09:14 PM
Ooo, shiny! What's this button d

MacAllister
02-14-2005, 10:52 PM
Ahh!! I see Jenna is at the top of the rep pyramid this morning--as it SHOULD be!

I was starting to feel serious pressure to be respectable...Now we can all go tell Uncle Jim how much we appreciate everything he does, by clicking on the little scales under his name and typing something nice in the comment box...

aka eraser
02-15-2005, 01:19 AM
How do you see who's got what rep? I can only see my own.

CaoPaux
02-15-2005, 01:22 AM
Hover your cursor over the little green square under the user's info.

reph
02-15-2005, 01:33 AM
You can't see how many points another person has, only the rating like "on a distinguished road."

aka eraser
02-15-2005, 01:59 AM
Ah, okay. Thanks Cao. Thanks reph.

Betty W01
02-15-2005, 02:00 AM
Whaaaaaaaaa....

Someone pass the tissues. I'm only distinguished. <sob>

I'm gonna go pout now...

MacAllister
02-15-2005, 02:19 AM
you click on "members list" on the top menu-bar, then click on "reputation" and it sorts members by rep, Frank. :)

aka eraser
02-15-2005, 04:55 AM
Thanks Mac. You're winning!

It's The Hat. ;)

Birol
02-15-2005, 06:02 AM
Jenna did pull ahead of Mac briefly today, but apparently that must not have lasted long. Mac must be one really helpful person. Or else she's bribing people. Either way, she's in the lead, the rest of us should jump on her and hold her down. ;)

NicoleJLeBoeuf
03-06-2005, 06:29 AM
This may be a tangent, but if you've got the patience to humor me...

I see y'all saying to hover your mouse over the green boxes, and, oddly enough, that don't do it over here in Mozilla Firefox land. ALT text doesn't just bubble up for me. I have to actually right-click and then click "properties" to read the humorous mottos.*

Is there a setting in Firefox that I'm just not finding that turns on mouse-hover viewing of IMG ALT text?

And while we're at it, where'd my control for "make animated images stop after one cycle" go? I must have set it, some many versions ago, but now I don't know where the control has gone.


*(The mottos appear to have changed a bit since Jenna listed them out last month. "...is a jewel" is now "...is a shiny, shiny jewel." When you become a shiny, shiny jewel, do you get a tasty, tasty biscuit (http://www.websnark.com/)?)

Optimus
03-09-2005, 12:41 PM
"...is a sanctimonious snob, but usually right."

Sweet! That one was for me, wasn't it?

Can I have it, Jenna?

MacAllister
03-09-2005, 01:43 PM
Hmm--Nicole, I use firefox, too--and I get the mouse-hover message okay.
Did you download the new update, btw? :idea:

NicoleJLeBoeuf
03-12-2005, 08:39 AM
I thought I did... I'm running version 1.0.1. Surely it's just a setting that's easily toggled, somewhere in the depths?

(And what's up with the auto-check-for-updates widget that pops up a little box that says "click here to download" and then vanishes leaving you nowhere to click?! I'm just sayin'.)

allion
03-13-2005, 05:25 AM
Nicole, I feel your pain about the update thingy in Firefox. By the time I have a minute to click the link, the link goes away.

Then, when I do check in the tools - options section for updates, it says there are none. :Wha:

Otherwise, I like Firefox lots and lots. It just has some quirky things I have to work around.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled thread...

Karen

CindyBidar
03-13-2005, 05:20 PM
This may be a tangent, but if you've got the patience to humor me...

I see y'all saying to hover your mouse over the green boxes, and, oddly enough, that don't do it over here in Mozilla Firefox land. ALT text doesn't just bubble up for me. I have to actually right-click and then click "properties" to read the humorous mottos.*

Nicole, go to Tools>Options>Web Features and make sure "Enable JavaScript" is checked. I unchecked it for another reason, and lost the pop-up text and also the pop-up menus under Forum Tools, Search Forum, and user names.

NicoleJLeBoeuf
03-13-2005, 08:49 PM
Nicole, go to Tools>Options>Web Features and make sure "Enable JavaScript" is checked. I unchecked it for another reason, and lost the pop-up text and also the pop-up menus under Forum Tools, Search Forum, and user names.Already done, and nothing relevant under "Advanced" is disabled. If I hadn't had JavaScript enabled, I'd have been having loads more trouble than simply not being able to see the ALT tags!

This isn't a javascript thing. There's no "onMouseOver" script on the rep images--I took a look at the HTML source to make sure. The page code is relying on the browser's innate treatment of images to reveal the ALT or TITLE text when you mouse over the image. Now, if only I could figure out why my browser seems to be missing that bit of functionality... Maybe it's time I took a side trip to the Mozilla forums.

Thanks, though!

jdkiggins
03-14-2005, 07:38 AM
And how many points/posts do you need to be shiny?
Or a beacon of light?

Joanne

NicoleJLeBoeuf
03-15-2005, 02:07 AM
Muahahahaha. (http://www.gadgetopia.com/2004/11/09/FirefoxALTTagsAndTooltips.html)


The ALT tag for images is NOT supposed to produce a little tooltip when you mouseover an image, according to the HTML spec. This is supposed to be the job of the TITLE tag.

Firefox has never done this for ALT tags, correctly obeying the spec. This always confused me, because some images would pop a tooltip and others wouldn't. Apparently the ones that did also had a TITLE tag, unbeknowst to me.

However, IE has always done it for the ALT tag too, which actually seems reasonable to me. I don't see the harm.

So someone created an extention for Firefox to "fix" this problem.Except, the Rep Icon does have TITLE tag, too, so this doesn't entirely answer why I'm not seeing a tooltip. I'm off to find that plug in (http://piro.sakura.ne.jp/xul/_popupalt.html.en) (the wonderful plug-in of Moz).

As for making animated images stop, Firefox is missing a user-friendly control, but you can access it by putting "about:config" in the location bar. Set the "image.animation_mode" control to "once" (animations run once, then stop) or "none" (animations don't run at all)--the default is "normal" (animations run forever).

This tangent brought to you by Anal-Retentive Geeks 'R' Us. We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread, "Reputation?" already in progress.

Sarita
03-15-2005, 07:40 AM
And how many points/posts do you need to be shiny?


I want to be a shiny, shiny jewel! I would settle for just one shiny to be fair!

allion
03-15-2005, 09:50 PM
...As for making animated images stop, Firefox is missing a user-friendly control, but you can access it by putting "about:config" in the location bar. Set the "image.animation_mode" control to "once" (animations run once, then stop) or "none" (animations don't run at all)--the default is "normal" (animations run forever).

Thank you Nicole! This has been driving me nutso for a long time.

We now return to our usually scheduled thread

Karen