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nickyallard
09-10-2003, 07:55 AM
I sent this magazine 2 articles. After sending them I didn't receive a response for a week or two so I wrote asking about the status. The message below is what I received in return. They didn't ask for revisions, just sent this. Honestly, this company is unprofessional and down-right rude. I don't mind criticism, but this is certainly far from it. As far as them accusing me of being rude-I am not. I am professional in all transactions. Maybe because I wasn't conversational they thought that was rude. Also, they were only willing to pay $25/article. I should have known. I advise any writer to stay far away.

Here's the message from Reveal Magazine:

Honestly, you seem demanding, presumptive and hard to work with. I'm hiring
people to work for me. I work for no one. Your tone is not only rude, but it
is very un creative.

I'm not sure if you even read about the magazine based off the articles you
submitted. Your writing reads like a college creative writing assignment
that is just trying to be 1000 words. I'm not sure if based off your lack of
talent, you have ever even opened a magazine and looked at how articles are
put together.

Better luck on your next assignment. I've deleted your articles and thrown
your bills in the trash. Again... if you would have read the assignment
criteria, you would see the first two articles are not billable.

Dave Kuzminski
09-10-2003, 08:37 AM
Do they have a web site where I can read their submission guidelines?

Tish Davidson
09-10-2003, 10:39 PM
A google search on "Reveal Magazine" turns up

www.newreveal.com/ (http://www.newreveal.com/)

The only things on the site are advertisements for a modeling contest and a vocal/dance contest. Absolutely nothing about editorial or submissions.

Other links found in the search take you to a term paper mill.

Makes you wonder...

capitalistwriter
09-10-2003, 11:56 PM
The response was certainly unfriendly and probably uncalled for, but I have to wonder...

Did you query them first? Had they asked for these articles, or were you just sending them on spec? What did you say in your e-mails to cause them to call you "demanding?"

Frankly, I don't see enough details here to know whether or not Reveal is a market to avoid (though $25 per article isn't enough to interest me anyway).

nickyallard
09-22-2003, 11:54 PM
They don't have a website, yet. It's a start-up mag. I had sent a message asking for the status of my articles, which the editor apparently didn't like. I should have known with a start-up. They did ask for the articles, and I (yuck) sent them on spec.

XThe NavigatorX
09-23-2003, 02:22 AM
wow. Do you have copies of the follow-up you sent them? I'm interested in reading what they're reacting off of.

nickyallard
09-24-2003, 11:52 PM
I had sent 2 articles for publication. I would like to know the status of those articles. Thank you for your time.

That's what I sent!

Tish Davidson
09-25-2003, 01:51 AM
Did you send invoices with your message? From Reveal's response, it sounds like you might have. If so, I can see how they might find that presumptious, although it does not justify their obnoxious reply.

Magenta240
10-09-2003, 02:09 AM
I also sent them two articles. They are the worst 'magazine' to work with. I am pissed.

nickyallard
10-14-2003, 12:58 AM
Hi, Magenta240. What happened to you?

floozer
10-17-2003, 05:33 AM
their message back to you...besides being unnecessarily dick, was written poorly. soooo there. hope that makes you feel just a little better.

Travis Swanson
12-05-2003, 02:26 AM
To Whom It May Concern:

My name is Travis Swanson. I am President/Founder of Reveal Magazine. Yes, we are a start up magazine but we are set to release 350,000 issues in April of 2004. Yes, I did send a reply to the gentleman who sent us his articles. Yes, I should not have answered his emails in the first place. Nothing I told him was ever what he wanted to hear. Yes, my last email was not as professional is it should have been. However, I was provoked by more than what he is saying.

I received several emails from this individual in a short period of time. He went on about how he didn’t appreciate me not getting back to him ASAP and he started making demands upon how and when he wanted to see his work published and the compensation he expected. None the less, the matter is over and in the past as far as I’m concerned.

I will not comment on the structure or writing style of this individual. I wish him the best in future endeavors. In fact, I even have a grammar book from the third grade that I would like to offer him as a truce. I think he may get a lot of use from this book and find it to be a helpful reference.

I would also like to apologize to anyone who has come across this post. I apologize for wasting your time.

Our “test” site is not available to the public as of 12/4/04. However, the site may be viewed at tet.reveal-magazine.com. (http://tet.reveal-magazine.com.) Please feel free to provide any feedback. We are growing rapidly and establishing worldwide contacts from London to Kansas City. I am always looking for writers who will write about a variety of topics. Some of the topics are found on the site. Other topics have not yet been posted.

For a copy of the media kit please send an email to info@reveal-magazine.com.

The insert that you see from the gentleman complaining is not my version. It is an obvious attempt of slander and will be investigated.

Sincerely,

Travis Swanson, President
Reveal Magazine
www.reveal-magazine.com
Email: Travis@reveal-magazine.com


P.S. Thanks for the free publicity!

Travis Swanson
12-05-2003, 02:33 AM
Correction:

The site may be viewed at:

test.reveal-magazine.com (http://test.reveal-magazine.com)

Thank You

Travis Swanson
12-05-2003, 02:35 AM
You should not comment on things you know nothing about. That is a rule to live and die by.

Pumpkinweed
12-07-2003, 08:57 AM
Wow, he sure told you.:lol

nickyallard
12-16-2003, 02:54 AM
I think the publisher is mistaken. I never demanded anything from him. Also, I am not a "he", I am a woman. Maybe Travis got a little confused about who he was responding to.

NICOLE---woman

Magenta240
12-16-2003, 09:07 PM
I sent two articles two this 'magazine' 9/1/03. I heard back a couple of weeks later and Travis said that the articles looked good. However, I never heard back from him until two days ago when he must have seen my posting here. I guess it took him 3 months and a posting for him to decide that my aritcles weren't good enough for him. He sent me the most unprofessional e-mail that included the statements, F*#$^%$ Bitch! and Fu*&ing Dyke Whore.

What a pleasure it was working with him.

battlechaser
12-16-2003, 09:38 PM
It is amazing how people come out of the wood work.
I think if someone feels the need to defend themself on an ezboard, especially a presumably big time magazine publisher, then they probably do have something to hide or were in the wrong.

At any rate, the "Bewares Board" has done its damage to the publication; so much for free advertising.

Travis Swanson
12-19-2003, 12:27 AM
To Whom It May Concern:

I am offended and amazed that these two keep posting blatant lies of slander and misrepresentation. I have been 100% professional from day one. The only thing I am guilty of is not choosing them to write for my up-and-coming publication.

It sincerely saddens me that today’s society of so called “professionals” can go so low to try to hurt a genuinely good start up magazine. Everyone that knows me, or the background of Reveal Magazine, will tell you that I am extremely easy to work for and a great person. I have never called anyone names or purposely tried to keep someone from achieving personal or professional success.

I have decided to comment to this “beware” board because I am not guilty of what these two “writers” are saying. When I typed a Google search for “Reveal Magazine,” the first thing I found was this board. It is my right to defend myself from the lies and misinformation being passed along on this page. Anyone who is truly innocent of accusations would do the same thing.

My telephone number directly to my office is 1-800-700-1930. I would be glad to take up the issue with anyone interested in speaking to me about anything I may have done. (Or wanting to apologize for the lies posted on this board.)

I thought nickyallard was Nick Yallard instead of Nicole Allard. I never bothered to ask her sex, as it was not a deciding factor in consideration. Her personal shots are not welcome and should not be tolerated on this board or otherwise.

I wish well for both of these two people but I do suggest that they think about what means they go to, to try to trash a very informative and reader friendly publication after they were turned down for jobs.

The articles that I read from “Magenta” and “Allard” were not national publication ready and did not fit with the overall feel of Reveal magazine as I described it to them, prior to submitting the work. I would encourage anyone who would like to read these articles to contact myself or the writers in question for a copy and make your own decision.

I apologize also for wasting the time it took you to read this board. I know you have better things to do with your valuable time. Going to test.reveal-magazine.com (http://test.reveal-magazine.com) would be a great place to start. Please do not let two people speak for thousands. Make your own choice as to whether this would be a publication you would like to read more of. We have several huge advertisers coming on board in 2004 and a distribution chain of over 35,000 pre sold issues per month.

Thank you,

Travis Swanson, President
Reveal Magazine

Travis Swanson
12-19-2003, 12:36 AM
The site is test.reveal-magazine.com (http://test.reveal-magazine.com) for the time being. Soon it will be www.revealmagazine.com and www.reveal-magazine.com. Feel free to check it out and provide me with feedback via info@reveal-magazine.com

reph
12-19-2003, 01:24 AM
Mr. Swanson, if you continue to solicit articles from the writing public, you'll get many that won't meet your criteria for what is publishable. In fact, there will be more articles of that kind than the other kind. Do you plan to respond as rudely to their writers as you did to the two writers who posted here? Wouldn't efficiency be better served by making up an insulting rejection form and printing up a few thousand copies?

Travis Swanson
12-20-2003, 01:35 AM
Heather

Reveal: Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule to talk to us. Is there anything we should or shouldn’t talk about?

Heather: I have to admit that I’m a Hollywood entertainment nut.. sad but true. Off-limits? That totally depends on the person I’m having the conversation with, but I’m normally pretty open about things.

R: That’s what I like to hear. It sounds like you’re pretty laid back. How would your family and friends describe you?

H: Sweet, friendly, outgoing, successful, attractive.

R: You are very attractive! Men must approach you all the time. What is the most romantic thing someone has done for you to get your attention?

H: …Um…hmm …I had to think about this answer way TOO LONG! I guess that means I’m not picking the ‘romantic’ guys. What am I thinking??!!

R: We probably have guys reading this right now who are dying to tell you how romantic they could be. Other than totally stalking you, where do you usually meet men?

H: I hate to say this but …in a bar.

R: There’s nothing wrong with that. I’ve dated some really nice girls I met at bars. Although… hmm. That’s weird. I can’t remember any of their names.

Tell us how you like to be approached.

H: I think it’s nice when a guy comes up and compliments me on something… like what I’m wearing or my smile. Girls like when guys make them feel special.

R: You’re right. That usually gets a date if it’s done right. How often do you date?

H: I’ve always been in a relationship or dating around in between. I don’t think I’ve ever sat back and enjoyed the single life. I guess that means I like boys A LOT though… so that’s not a bad thing.

R: “Boys” like you too. Trust us! They will be disappointed to hear that have a boyfriend though. Is it ever appropriate to cheat?

H: Appropriate? Probably not, but people have to understand that people change and grow along the way, and relationships go through their ups and downs, and sometimes ‘@#%$ HAPPENS’.

R: Great answer. I guess that means if a guy can manage to take you on an “unofficial date” that amazes you, he might have a .00001 % chance of “@#%$ happening.” Tell us about your most adventurous date.

H: A guy I was dating took me to an Oktoberfest in a small quaint Texas town on a cold, fall day. We spent the day drinking German wine and beer, shopping, and watching the festival activities (in the rain). We ended up getting stuck in the town because his jeep had transmission problems so we hitchhiked to a restaurant, had a nice dinner, grabbed a bottle of wine for the road and then hitchhiked to a nice, little bed and breakfast outside of town. The next morning we rode 2 hours back to his hometown in the tiny back seat of a tow truck. The car mishap ended up turning our date into an awesome, memorable adventure.

R: Oh that’s smooth. His car “broke down” and he was forced to hitchhike with you to a bed and breakfast. @#%$ Happens! That almost sounds like the new reality TV show The Simple Life. Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie are stuck in the middle of nowhere and have to make the best of it. Our staff has really gotten into the show. Do you have a favorite show?

H: Right now it’s The Simple Life, I know its kind of a dumb show, but it makes me laugh and I have to admit I think Paris Hilton is HOT.

R: So do I! I’m a sucker for blondes with spunk and style. Paris, if you’re reading this. Call me… now. So other than being able to make the best of a “bad” situation, what qualities do you look for in a guy?

H: Physically I look for a guy with a nice body, an attractive face, and a pretty smile. I also have this thing with hands… they’ve got to be big, strong and definitely well groomed. I also look for a guy with a great sense of humor, confidence, and being goal-driven is a must.

R: Big hands huh? I’ve heard what they say about big hands. Let’s talk about sex. How long do you feel you should wait before having sex with someone?

H: I think at the minimum you should wait until after the first 2 or 3 dates, but most of all I think you should wait until it feels right.

R: How important is sex to you in general in relationships? H: Hmmm, well… VERY IMPORTANT! It’s one of the coolest things two people can share together. If the sex life is bad I think there are probably problems with affection and communication in the relationship.

R: Yeah. It feels pretty good too. And it’s a great way to handle stress. How well do you handle stress?

H: Pretty well, I love to keep myself preoccupied most of the time.

R: How do you see yourself being “preoccupied” over the next few years?

H: I’d like to spend the next few years modeling and finding something of interest to me where I could be successful starting my own business. Then when I’m more ‘established’ I would like to start a family.

R: That’s a good dream. Maybe someone reading this will be able to help you out. For our final question, I have to ask… What are your secret fantasies?

H: They are secret! But believe me I have plenty of them.

R: Nice.



— Travis Swanson

Travis Swanson
12-20-2003, 01:36 AM
Heather

Reveal: Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule to talk to us. Is there anything we should or shouldn’t talk about?

Heather: I have to admit that I’m a Hollywood entertainment nut.. sad but true. Off-limits? That totally depends on the person I’m having the conversation with, but I’m normally pretty open about things.

R: That’s what I like to hear. It sounds like you’re pretty laid back. How would your family and friends describe you?

H: Sweet, friendly, outgoing, successful, attractive.

R: You are very attractive! Men must approach you all the time. What is the most romantic thing someone has done for you to get your attention?

H: …Um…hmm …I had to think about this answer way TOO LONG! I guess that means I’m not picking the ‘romantic’ guys. What am I thinking??!!

R: We probably have guys reading this right now who are dying to tell you how romantic they could be. Other than totally stalking you, where do you usually meet men?

H: I hate to say this but …in a bar.

R: There’s nothing wrong with that. I’ve dated some really nice girls I met at bars. Although… hmm. That’s weird. I can’t remember any of their names.

Tell us how you like to be approached.

H: I think it’s nice when a guy comes up and compliments me on something… like what I’m wearing or my smile. Girls like when guys make them feel special.

R: You’re right. That usually gets a date if it’s done right. How often do you date?

H: I’ve always been in a relationship or dating around in between. I don’t think I’ve ever sat back and enjoyed the single life. I guess that means I like boys A LOT though… so that’s not a bad thing.

R: “Boys” like you too. Trust us! They will be disappointed to hear that have a boyfriend though. Is it ever appropriate to cheat?

H: Appropriate? Probably not, but people have to understand that people change and grow along the way, and relationships go through their ups and downs, and sometimes ‘@#%$ HAPPENS’.

R: Great answer. I guess that means if a guy can manage to take you on an “unofficial date” that amazes you, he might have a .00001 % chance of “@#%$ happening.” Tell us about your most adventurous date.

H: A guy I was dating took me to an Oktoberfest in a small quaint Texas town on a cold, fall day. We spent the day drinking German wine and beer, shopping, and watching the festival activities (in the rain). We ended up getting stuck in the town because his jeep had transmission problems so we hitchhiked to a restaurant, had a nice dinner, grabbed a bottle of wine for the road and then hitchhiked to a nice, little bed and breakfast outside of town. The next morning we rode 2 hours back to his hometown in the tiny back seat of a tow truck. The car mishap ended up turning our date into an awesome, memorable adventure.

R: Oh that’s smooth. His car “broke down” and he was forced to hitchhike with you to a bed and breakfast. @#%$ Happens! That almost sounds like the new reality TV show The Simple Life. Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie are stuck in the middle of nowhere and have to make the best of it. Our staff has really gotten into the show. Do you have a favorite show?

H: Right now it’s The Simple Life, I know its kind of a dumb show, but it makes me laugh and I have to admit I think Paris Hilton is HOT.

R: So do I! I’m a sucker for blondes with spunk and style. Paris, if you’re reading this. Call me… now. So other than being able to make the best of a “bad” situation, what qualities do you look for in a guy?

H: Physically I look for a guy with a nice body, an attractive face, and a pretty smile. I also have this thing with hands… they’ve got to be big, strong and definitely well groomed. I also look for a guy with a great sense of humor, confidence, and being goal-driven is a must.

R: Big hands huh? I’ve heard what they say about big hands. Let’s talk about sex. How long do you feel you should wait before having sex with someone?

H: I think at the minimum you should wait until after the first 2 or 3 dates, but most of all I think you should wait until it feels right.

R: How important is sex to you in general in relationships? H: Hmmm, well… VERY IMPORTANT! It’s one of the coolest things two people can share together. If the sex life is bad I think there are probably problems with affection and communication in the relationship.

R: Yeah. It feels pretty good too. And it’s a great way to handle stress. How well do you handle stress?

H: Pretty well, I love to keep myself preoccupied most of the time.

R: How do you see yourself being “preoccupied” over the next few years?

H: I’d like to spend the next few years modeling and finding something of interest to me where I could be successful starting my own business. Then when I’m more ‘established’ I would like to start a family.

R: That’s a good dream. Maybe someone reading this will be able to help you out. For our final question, I have to ask… What are your secret fantasies?

H: They are secret! But believe me I have plenty of them.

R: Nice.



— Travis Swanson

More interviews to come soon. Please view test.reveal-magazine.com (http://test.reveal-magazine.com)

Hugh Hefner
12-20-2003, 01:58 AM
I have seen Reveal Magazine and I really like it. I started small a long time ago and now look at us.

Travis, you just keep up the GREAT work.

Hugh Hefner
12-20-2003, 02:00 AM
I really like Reveal Magazine.

James D Macdonald
12-20-2003, 02:21 AM
Travis, what revenue stream do you foresee for Reveal?

reph
12-20-2003, 03:35 AM
I don't usually make judgments about authenticity so quickly, but that interview just rings hollow to me. The words of "Heather" don't sound like anything a real woman would utter. They sound like what a man would make up, using his idealized fantasy image of a woman.

Travis Swanson
12-20-2003, 04:04 AM
They are 100% authentic answers from Heather that were not changed in any way shape or form. You can see her pictures on the site in a few days. I keep signed copies of all the release forms for interviews and photos on file.

Overall, how do you feel I did with the interview and the readability?

Travis Swanson
12-20-2003, 04:08 AM
The interview is 100% real. Everything that she said is 100% her words, not changed one bit. Period.

You can see her pictures on the site in a few days. She is a really cool women.

I also keep signed release forms on file for all the interviews and photos I post of the women.

I'm looking for feedback on the quailty of the content. Did it interest you? Was it easy to read? What else would you like to read about her? etc.

Travis Swanson
12-20-2003, 04:09 AM
It's real

XThe NavigatorX
12-20-2003, 04:42 AM
lol you really haven't seen the Paris Hilton video yet? I can't avoid it, even if I try, and I'm even a (big) fan of porn. :lol

reph
12-20-2003, 05:25 AM

reph
12-20-2003, 05:33 AM
"I'm looking for feedback on the quailty of the content. Did it interest you? Was it easy to read? What else would you like to read about her? etc."

Feedback isn't the purpose of the Bewares Board. May I suggest the Share Your Work forum, a little way up the page?

But here are my answers: "Did it interest you?" Minimally. "Was it easy to read?" Yes. "What else would you like to read about her?" I'd like to know why her answers are so stereotyped. What's inside her head, and why is it so alone? Did this poor girl have no role model but a Barbie doll?

Mr. Swanson, I'm just not part of your target audience. First, I'm female. (Your reference to "the women" suggests you intend a men's magazine.) Second, I look for stimulation when I read. I find reading matter superficial and boring if it gives me nothing more to think about than "People" magazine would.

aka eraser
12-20-2003, 06:46 AM
Mr. Swanson seems to think that spamming a message board is one key to success. That cost him at least one potential writer and reader.

circusrunaway
12-23-2003, 05:58 AM
This is completely laughable. I can afford to pay my writers a contributor's copy, and yet every single query is answered politely and promptly. I'd expect a magazine with a beginning press run of 350,000 to have tact.

*shakes head*

James D Macdonald
12-23-2003, 07:47 AM
I'm still interested in how ol' Travis plans to make money with this venture.

Does he have any advertisers lined up? Is he planning to sell subscriptions? What does he have that there isn't more of, and better, elsewhere on the Web?

Me, I'm thinking that this is just 1001 Delights Part II, and I'm willing to start a dead pool on when reveal-magazine.com goes 404.

DaveKuzminski
12-23-2003, 08:35 AM
May '04.

James D Macdonald
12-23-2003, 08:58 AM
I'm going to be generous and say Dec '04, since he probably paid for his domain name a year in advance. But no new content after June.

reph
12-23-2003, 09:56 AM
Mr. Swanson, I admitted earlier that I was female, a handicap in estimating the appeal of the Heather interview. To compensate, I got a second opinion from my husband, who has something I lack that your prospective readers would also have. So here's what a being who's blessed with that all-important Y chromosome said: He found the interview dull. Sorry, but that's what he said.

I understand that you're still assembling materials and what you showed us is in beta form. But it would take more than Heather's photo, plus the interview itself, to tell readers who this woman is. Usually, people who give interviews have done something special, or they're promoting a book or a movie of theirs. Is Heather a writer? Is she an actress? In short, why should the audience be interested in her in the first place?

theviciousscribe
01-05-2004, 05:27 AM
Here's what I was told around July of 2003.

In short , Travis is full of crap. His numbers make no sense. He's simply trying to get ahead by acting like a "big boy".

FROM TRAVIS:

"Traffic will open Sept 1 with 11,451 paying customers already and growing. I have models out at bars every night selling subscriptions. I have 4 long term contracts with nightclubs. 6 1-year contracts with national clothing lines. 2 photographers and 100+ models. My advertising dollars have already exceeded $850,000 in incoming revenue toward printing and distribution."



Travis Swanson
President & CEO
ReveaL magazine

James D Macdonald
01-05-2004, 11:18 AM
In the other Reveal Magazine thread I've started a dead pool. When do you think they'll go out of business?

Travis Swanson
01-09-2004, 11:01 PM
You people are just don't want to wish anyone else success. That is a very sad thing. Reveal has made huge strides and is growing daily. By 2005 you will see us on every news stand and on TV. If you don't want to wish us well, we still wish you well.

reph
01-10-2004, 12:41 AM
Travis, that's gracious of you, in view of all the negativity here, but I'm afraid you might not understand what some of us have been trying to say. A magazine won't last long if it doesn't engage the reader. What I saw of your on-line sample didn't offer content that was new and different.

I wish you success, too; but wishing isn't predicting.

James D Macdonald
10-13-2004, 12:18 AM
I'm going to be generous and say Dec '04, since he probably paid for his domain name a year in advance. But no new content after June.

"Reveal-Magazine.com will be a huge success in conquering a niche in the market that has been waiting to be conquered. We have already received an overwhelming load of letters from interested readers who have been approached by our marketing team. Please visit Reveal-Magazine.com for more information and updates."

(Click on "Intro" under "Features" at <a href="http://www.reveal-magazine.com" target="_new">www.reveal-magazine.com</a>)

Only one issue on-line: December 2003. The more recent content seems to be stuff that's sucked in by little java ap p lets from other sites. Many of the pages are still "Under Construction."

In other words, this magazine never came to life. What's left is a zombie, shambling along until the domain registration runs out.

James D Macdonald
10-13-2004, 12:44 AM
You people are just don't want to wish anyone else success. That is a very sad thing. Reveal has made huge strides and is growing daily. By 2005 you will see us on every news stand and on TV. If you don't want to wish us well, we still wish you well.

I still wish Travis well, wherever he is.

Ah -- I'd written to sales@reveal-magazine.com and I've just now heard back from Travis. He says, in part, that he has 300+ subscriptions and is looking at a December, 2004 launch.

A bit of a comedown from the 35,000 pre sold issues that he'd claimed a year ago, but still, he's in there swinging.

Best of luck, Travis.

You know the best way to become a millionaire in the magazine business? Start as a multi-millionaire.

James D. Macdonald
07-13-2005, 08:38 PM
To follow up a bit, to my absolute astonishment Reveal isn't gone. You can find 'em at http://206.113.206.54/

CaoPaux
06-03-2008, 07:31 PM
Updating link: http://www.revealmagazine.com/

CaoPaux
01-22-2012, 01:11 AM
Is now http://www.revealnights.com/HomePage.html (of Swanson Media Group).

ETA: Closed in '13.