Owen Wilson tried to kill himself

His nose is bent. That's hard to live with.

His nose isn't just bent. It looks very much like a penis.

Perks said:

His nose isn't just bent. It looks very much like a penis.

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That would do it.

Depression can strike anyone, regardless of station in life. It may feel harder for some people to empathize or understand if the person in question is rich and famous, but money and fame don't reflect self-value and self-worth.

I think it's sad when anyone tries to take his/her own life. It's a cry for help, and if that's what happened here with him, I'm hoping he gets what help he needs.

Sympathetic as ever, I see RumpleTumbler.

And poor people don't have the monopoly on being unhappy. I mean, how many times do people trot out the cliche that money can't buy you happiness? And yet when a rich person displays deep unhappiness, we accuse him of being an attention-seeker, or having 'nothing to be unhappy about'. What utter, cold-hearted, unsympathetic bollocks.

I hope he gets the help he needs. I don't know him, he doesn't know me, but I still hope he gets the help he needs.

Only Owen knows if it was genuine. Who's to say it wasn't something like he was too drugged up to inflict more than superficial wounds despite wanting to commit suicide?

I hope he gets whatever help he needs.

And RT, there are lots of people who seriously wanted to kill themselves but didn't succeed.

I think the point is, RT, if we can't know his mind or his heart, then it just sounds shitheaded to say he was just looking for attention.

RumpleTumbler said:

He was locked up a couple of years ago after having a weed fest.....naked outside his house playing bongo's.

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Wasn't that Matthew McConahwhatzit?

RumpleTumbler said:

People who are genuine about killing themselves are dead.

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I don't think you can fairly make this blanket statement. People try to kill themselves and don't succeed.

I know this from experience within my family--a member tried to kill herself by swallowing an entire bottle of pills, but I called the hospital in time and she had her stomach pumped before it succeeded.

The pills would have killed her, had she been alone and me not there to intercede.

She needed help and was willing to die at the time to escape the problems she went through, but after counseling, she realized it was a cry for help based on her hopelessness.

So yes, I believe there can be a cry for help and an attempt at suicide which may not be successful.

I don't think this thread is going to change how RT feels about it, though, which is fine. I'll keep feeling the way I do, which works for me.

Thanks for letting me share my opinion on this difficult topic.

Rhonda

RumpleTumbler said:

I never represented it as fact. It's just one shitheads opinion.

He was locked up a couple of years ago after having a weed fest.....naked outside his house playing bongo's. It might be argued that he didn't know what he was doing then either. My personal shitheaded opinion is that he was doing that for attention as well. If it's going to put everyone in a rage though I'll just drop out of the thread.

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That was Matthew McConoghay, or however you spell his name. LOL

RumpleTumbler said:

So we can say that no one knows if Owen was genuine but you have personal knowledge of "lots of people" who seriously wanted to kill themselves but didn't succeed?

Please tell me how you cannot get into Owens mind but can all these other folks.

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It's hard to kill yourself. The instinct for survival is very strong. When you have control over the pain you are inflicting on yourself, it is difficult to resist the urge to stop. Kurdt Cobain tried it, and he failed, so he bought a gun.

And in any event, I don't see why it matters. A real suicide attempt, or a fake one, is still a symptom of depression.

Owen Wilson is a good guy. He is talented and hard working. He is going through a hard time, and I think he deserves a break.

aadams73 said:

Wasn't that Matthew McConahwhatzit?

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Why yes. Yes it was.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/mcconaugheymug1.html

RumpleTumbler said:

I never represented it as fact. It's just one shitheads opinion.

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Very true. I guess I can be content to leave it there. Please, do carry on.

RumpleTumbler said:

My mom succeeded. I win.

There are no absolutes. I wasn't trying to present it that way.

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This isn't a one-up argument. I am so sorry to hear that, though. I can see why you're so passionate about the topic.

And you're right--there aren't absolutes, and I'll try not to present anything in that manner, either.

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My mom succeeded. I win.

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Lol! Is that how you win? I didn't know. Yay, me! I win too!!

Thanks, Dad.

This thread saddens me. It's amazing how many lives a suicide can touch.

I'm sorry to hear that, Perks.

Rhonda, thank you for your condolences. It was a long time ago. My point is what an asinine claim to victory that was. RumpleTumbler seems to think he's the resident expert on suicide because his mother killed herself. He's not as special in that club as he'd like to think and the range of understanding is wide within that group.

On the real attempts are always successful comment. My friend shot herself, twice, in the chest and lived. Her husband saved her life because he walked in seconds after she shot herself and he was police officer. Everyone who looked at her couldn't believe she survived.

What an idiotic thing to say. There have been thousands of unsuccessful but real attempts and it has nothing to do with the person being serious about it or not. Part of it is sheer dumb luck.

RumpleTumbler said:

So we can say that no one knows if Owen was genuine but you have personal knowledge of "lots of people" who seriously wanted to kill themselves but didn't succeed?

Please tell me how you cannot get into Owens mind but can all these other folks.

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Yes, I have personal knowledge of people who did not succeed. Some tried repeatedly and finally did succeed. My comment was in reference to your blanket statement that "those who are genuine are dead." Not true, many who are 'genuine' don't succeed, and one doesn't have to be inside their heads to know this.

You mentioned you have first hand experience with someone committing suicide. I truly do sympathize. I know too many people who have ended their lives by their own hand. My heart goes out to anyone touched by this.

RumpleTumbler said:

I was joking about the "I win."

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Yeah, your jokes are a hoot. Why on earth would you rep me with a smiley face for a post in which I have revealed that my father committed suicide? Have you lost your mind?