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wisdomquest
09-06-2004, 02:20 AM
Curious if writers tend to be a certain personality type.

Have any of you taken any of the free onine quizzes to determine YOUR personality type - like Kiersey or Myers etc etc (tons of them on google)?

I've done several, and its turns out I'm an INFP.

They actually list 'writing - novels & poetry' as a good occupation choice for an INFP ... so, I feel like I might actually be on the right track.

Anyone else?

-wisdomquest :snoopy

macalicious731
09-06-2004, 02:44 AM
I just had to take the Meyers-Briggs for one of my classes, but I haven't been able to access the results yet.

I do, however, tend to use the tests every now and then on my characters.

Yeshanu
09-06-2004, 03:54 AM
INFP.

If you're using colours, I'm blue/green. :grin

Flawed Creation
09-06-2004, 06:59 AM
INTP

Jules Hall
09-06-2004, 02:26 PM
Also INTP. Apparently a very common type for writers of both speculative fiction and mysteries, or so I've heard.

ShinyPenguin
09-06-2004, 07:18 PM
INFP

Clearrr
09-06-2004, 07:35 PM
INTP/J

maestrowork
09-06-2004, 11:26 PM
INTP but as I age, leaning more and more to INFP.

reph
09-07-2004, 12:25 AM
INTJ here, but pretty balanced – no extreme preponderances of one alternative over another. The greatest difference favored J over P. But I've determined that there's nothing wrong with that!

CindyBidar
09-07-2004, 12:27 AM
Anyone else notice there are no extroverts here? :huh

Gala
09-07-2004, 12:35 AM
Hardcore INFP here. Always have been, always will be.

Analytical, intuitive: strong left brain skills with inherent right-brain artistic tendencies.

Don't like security. Too boring. But not a drama queen--an adventurer.

Highly melancholic. Masculine intellect. Giggling or whining women get on my nerves. If your female character ever bites her knuckles in a scene, I will beg you to delete the line, if not the entire character.

Loner, alone, dependant on solitude, yet enjoy people. Many don't realize I spend most of my time on my own, because I'm a good conversationalist out in the world. (Curious, listener.)

Not from Venus; from The Unknown Planet.

I use personality quad tools in understanding my characters.

maestrowork
09-07-2004, 01:07 AM
I think writers are by and large introverts, with some exceptions, of course. The E counterparts of NTP/FP/etc/ are entertainers. We are all artistic types. We entertain on the page; they entertain on stage.

Dhewco
09-07-2004, 01:41 AM
The only free test I could find only told me I was NF... to get the rest of it introvert/ Extrovert and whatever the last letter cost money I couldn't afford. I googled a lot of personality tests but couldn't find any other free tests that used those letters. One site told me I was an idealist. If you know of any FREE tests where I can find out all four, either post here or email Dhewco@aol.com thanks.

I believe it was the Kiersey test I took. But the site I saw charged for more detail. My cc is maxed. LOL.

Princesstilly
09-07-2004, 01:52 AM
ENFJ
According to Monster.ca "(Extravert, Intuitive, Feeler, Judger)
People of this type tend to be friendly, outgoing and enthusiastic; affectionate articulate and tactful; highly empathetic but easily hurt; creative and original; decisive and passionately opinionated, productive, organized and responsible.

The most important thing to ENFJs is their relationships and the opportunity to communicate and connect with others."

Am I the lone extravert in the group? My biggest beef with freelancing full-time is that I miss have a bunch of people around--I really enjoy the energy of the group dynamic--but not enough to go back to the cubicle jungle!

pina la nina
09-07-2004, 05:06 AM
INFJ as well, though a pretty mild I. It is interesting how similar we all are - that NF combo is popular here.

Here's a free one for folks looking:
Myers-Briggs test (http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm)

HollyB
09-07-2004, 07:52 AM
me too, Pina -- INFJ

pepperlandgirl
09-07-2004, 08:30 AM
INTJ

ElonnaT
09-07-2004, 08:35 AM
well, I came up as ISFJ. Guess I throw everything off...or maybe I shouldn't be a writer ;)

Actually, the test I took, I was about 50/50 on the S/N part so not really sure how accurate it is. But the conclusion seemed pretty accurate both ways.

Maybe I'm just schizophrenic :grin

maestrowork
09-07-2004, 08:45 AM
Don't worry, Elonna. On a high day (shhh) I'd pass as an ENTP. Alcohol seems to work very well too. But I prefer Prozac.

killerkellerh
09-10-2004, 01:58 AM
Call me a freak show with this group I guess:

ESTJ

My career currently is as a Project Manager/Electrical Engineer for Governement funded Airport Runway construction projects. My personality fits my career, but doesn't seem to be affecting my "system" of writing so far.

:thumbs

Keller

Yeshanu
09-10-2004, 02:09 AM
Dhewco,

Two questions.

In order to recharge your mental and emotional batteries, do you need to be alone, or with people?

What does your desk/office/bedroom look like?

Tell me, and I'll give you Ruth's super-quick assessment for the missing two letters.

Accuracy somewhat less than 100%, but more than 50%, I'm sure. :grin

maestrowork
09-10-2004, 02:24 AM
Ruth, you already know my type, but just to test yoru accuracy:

1. I need both. There are times I need to be alone to recharge. But there are times I absolutely must have people around me, talking to me, etc. to lift me up. Especially when I'm down, I need to reach out and touch someone. I also can't work for a long time writing on my own without people around...

2. My desk/room/house is a mess. I call it chaotically organized. :-)

Yeshanu
09-10-2004, 07:17 AM
1. Definitely a borderline personality, here. Very like me, in fact. I test out about 60/40 on every MB test I've done (three or four so far...) But I'm an "I" because when I need to
recharge or process something truly awful, I need solitude. Most of the strong "E" types I know need companionship in those times.

A friend who has two daughters put it this way, "L. won't tell me if she's sick. B needs me to hold her while she bends over the toilet if she's sick." A sick example, true, but one that might help you determine if you are introvert or extrovert.

Another difference I've noticed between introverts and extroverts is how they think. When I think (about difficult problems), I need to think alone, or at least in a quiet environment. The extroverts I know need to talk it out. So that's another question I could ask: When you need to work out a difficult problem, do you talk it out, or do you need silence? (If you need silence after the talking, you're probably at least a bit introverted.)

2. A P. A very strong P, would be my guess...

I used to tell my mother that it didn't matter that everything in my room was on the floor, because I knew exactly where on the floor I put it. (Chaotically organized, Ray?) All that showed was that I had a good memory. :grin

Another telling question: When you go on a trip, do you panic if it's not organized to the last detail, or if it is organized to the last detail, do you feel restricted somehow? A classic "P" will have this conversation with a "J" ex-spouse:

J: When are you taking holidays?
P: Dunno. When are you going?
J: I'm leaving on Saturday, August 7. I'm hoping to be out of here by 9 a.m. sharp. We'll camp the Saturday night at This Provincial Park, the Sunday night at That Provincial Park, and by noon on the Monday, we'll be at XXX Resort. We'll be home on Friday, August 13 about noon. We're going to see Attraction A on Tuesday, Attraction B on Thursday, and go on a boat tour the following Monday. I'll check the long term forecasts before we go. I might have to change the attractions around if it's supposed to rain.
P: Okay, well if you're going to take those weeks, I'll take the last week in August to go up to Algonquin. Might stay at Mom and Dad's for a night or two. Oh, and maybe go up again on the Labour Day weekend. Depends on the weather. And finances. I wonder what my bank account balance is like, anyway.
J: I have $756.32 right now. I should have $1524.02 in there when I leave, unless someone doesn't cash a cheque right away. I hate it when that happens.

If you can identify strongly with either "P" or "J" in this little (somewhat true) example, you know what you are... :b

maestrowork
09-10-2004, 08:28 AM
1. I think I'm by nature an "I" for sure because when I need to think things through, I need to do it on my own. However, I also LOVE brainstorming -- that's why I can toss out ideas and let others tell me theirs and we work the problems together... I did a lot of project management doing that. I was a good team player and leader because I engaged people in these collaboration. But yes, I do need solitude time to thinks things through myself.

2. Very strong P. :-) I remember telling my then-GF NEVER to clean up my room because I'd never find anything. The taking the trip test is great. Yup, I'm the type who picks up and go. Sure, I probably would book the flight and cruise, etc. because I probably have to. But if I can get away without doing all that, I would. I also use this trip-taking analogy for "outlining" (read those threads). If I miss a flight, I won't dread it, I'll just get on a different flight on standby and eventually I'll get there.

The only time when I get upset is when I'm tired and cranky and I just don't want to spend another hour at the airport.

I guess I am a very strong NP type. I'm borderline I/E and T/F. As a computer scientist/business person I'm very analytical and thus a T type. As a writer and a romantic, however, I can be very F. I'm a business analyst as well as an artist. I use both sides of my brain equally well.

Dhewco
09-10-2004, 08:49 AM
Yesh, I need to be alone to recharge. Lately it seems I am recharging alot. My bedroom, office is messy and oft cluttered.

reph
09-10-2004, 11:16 AM
I recharge the same way as maestro: sometimes need solitude, sometimes need stimulation from other people.

Duesylady
09-11-2004, 01:01 AM
ISTJ:shrug

Yeshanu
09-11-2004, 01:38 AM
So Dhewco, I'd guess INFP. Join the club! :jump

Clearrr
09-11-2004, 05:14 AM
Another major difference between I and E is:
E's tend to think outloud. They may start by saying, "The wall is white . . . no, it's actually more of an eggshell... no, wait, maybe off-white . . .hmmmm . . .now, I see hints of yellow . . . " and may wind up saying/thinking the wall is actually rose, whilst an I thinks internally and says, "I think the wall is rose-colored."

Plenty of confusion between an I and E when in a discussion.

Clear

maestrowork
09-11-2004, 05:55 AM
From what I understand, the I-type think and feel by drawing from internal thoughts and feelings and experience. The E-type use the external stimuli, information and input to form their thoughts.

Yeshanu
09-11-2004, 07:01 AM
Another major difference between I and E is:
E's tend to think outloud. They may start by saying, "The wall is white . . . no, it's actually more of an eggshell... no, wait, maybe off-white . . .hmmmm . . .now, I see hints of yellow . . . " and may wind up saying/thinking the wall is actually rose, whilst an I thinks internally and says, "I think the wall is rose-colored."

Having been in many meetings with E type people, I can testify to that, although some of the more educated E's can modify this process (because our education system encourages I type thinking processes, not because they're smarter than the ones who need to think out loud.)


From what I understand, the I-type think and feel by drawing from internal thoughts and feelings and experience. The E-type use the external stimuli, information and input to form their thoughts.

This sounds more like the difference between intuitives (N)(who use "gut" feelings to make decisions) and sensors (S)(who use external, "hard" data to make decisions) than the difference between introverts and extroverts.

BTW, my son came home from his first week of university and boldly announce that I was ENFP. I'm not really E, though I can act the part quite well. But the rest of the stuff -- no one, in their wildest dreams, will ever mistake me for a J. :lol (Or an S either.) The F/T sometimes fools folks, but only because I've learned to act very well... :b

tfdswift
09-11-2004, 08:58 AM
Did everybody pay $60.00 to take the meyers test?

I did take the RHETI test and was found to be The Enthusiast. With another, I was found to be an Idealist.

That's all I have to go on so far.

~~Tammy

“Today is the best day. Yesterday is gone forever. Tomorrow will never arrive.” ~ David Wolfe

reph
09-11-2004, 10:29 AM
$60? No, I took a free test online.

maestrowork
09-11-2004, 11:27 AM
The test is free online.

pencilone
09-11-2004, 02:04 PM
Thanks for the free test link.;)

I'm a happy INFJ:jump

Lori Basiewicz
09-11-2004, 02:42 PM
INTP

Clearrr
09-11-2004, 08:03 PM
Worst fight my husband and I ever had was when he cleaned my office. We used to share one large office. He is 100% J and I'm 50/50 P/J. I was out of town and truly, out of the goodness of his heart and because he's neat beyond words, he cleaned my half of the office. I felt as though I'd been assaulted! LOL

Yeshanu
09-11-2004, 10:02 PM
My ex used to file his garbage: one can for paper that was only used on one side (so he could use the other side), one can for other paper and regular type garbage. And the garbage in the cans was neat, not just thrown in... :ack

(I have corrupted him somewhat. Now his garbage cans look like normal garbage cans, though here in Guelph we have to separate our garbage into three "streams" which is a lot like filing to me.) :ack

tfdswift
09-12-2004, 10:27 PM
I need the link for the free test. Did I miss it???

~~Tammy

Mbwana Ngori
09-13-2004, 06:21 PM
i'm an ENFJ.
now i gotta find out, what that means ... i hope it's good ... :wha

Yeshanu
09-13-2004, 08:45 PM
Mbwana,

There's no "good" or "bad" personality types...

E -- Extrovert: You get energized by being with people

N -- Intuitive: You gather information by... Well, you're probably not quite sure exactly how you gather information. You just seem to understand what's going on... You are also more inclined to view things as "whole" rather than as a collection of parts.

F -- Feeling: You use your "gut feelings" to make decisions, rather than verifiable fact. (And you're probably right as much as those "factual" people... :D )

J -- Judgemental: In the Meyers-Briggs, that word doesn't hold to its "standard" meaning, that you pass judgement on others. Instead, a better word might be "organized" or "linear" in your thought patterns. As opposed to us "P," or perceiving types, who are somewhat ah, messy and disorganized, and tend to think web-like thoughts... :ack

Anyhow, a bit more later, if you're interested. I don't have my books where I am right now.

alinasandor
09-14-2004, 01:47 AM
INFJ for me!

Mbwana Ngori
09-14-2004, 02:14 PM
naah, i knew that a type of personality is not in itself bad or good - i was just kidding ... ;)

but thanks for the feedback !
i had actually never heard of this system - i've been working with the enneagram for some time now, which is also revelating but not in this concrete manner (it seems more problem-orientated, but i guess i should reread it).

it's quite interesting what this enjf means - and it's pretty accurate, too, from what i read on that site [ www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm (http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm) ].

now that i think about it - the enneagram was developed for categorizing people in order to lead them and take individual care of them.
did you ever come across it in your studies ?

cu
chris

aka eraser
09-15-2004, 01:37 AM
INFJ

Thanks for the link Chris. :)

tfdswift
09-15-2004, 05:24 AM
INFJ - Now I know:jump :jump :jump

~~Tammy

aka eraser
09-15-2004, 05:34 AM
Tammy, click on the link within the square brackets in the post above my previous one. That should do it.

maestrowork
09-15-2004, 06:05 AM
Last week I was an INFP, and today, I am an ENFP.

I know I'm a psycho... don't have to quantify it.

reph
09-15-2004, 06:37 AM
I took the test twice, a few weeks apart, and came out an INTJ both times, but the quantitative results were unstable. The second time, I was only 1% T, which means almost F. Then I tried changing answers one or two at a time to see the results. Some questions are hard to interpret. You might give opposite answers at different times. If you change a Yes to a No or vice versa, it changes your score on one of the four dimensions by 10 or 11%.

Risseybug
09-15-2004, 07:26 AM
ENFJ
Pretty well describes me.

Yeshanu
09-15-2004, 10:35 PM
now that i think about it - the enneagram was developed for categorizing people in order to lead them and take individual care of them.

I've done the tests at church, and also at school during my undergrad, then again for my divinity studies.

But as you get to know people one-on-one, and as you become more familiar with the "types," you don't need to test them. As you become familiar with them as individuals, the tests become irrelevant.

Where I find them helpful is if someone is trying to fit themselves into someone else's idea of what a "perfect" human being should be like, or act like. Then it's helpful to show them the wide range of human behaviors, and how each "type" handles day-to-day living.

As for "borderline" personalities like Ray (and me) -- we're not psycho :grin , we're just able to utilize both the extrovert and introvert strengths. Not surprising, really, since both actors and pastors must be able to be both introspective and outgoing at the same time...

Also, as we age, we go through phases of trying out new behaviors that are not natural to our basic personality. I call this "learning." So someone like me who is very strongly "NF" would be able to use the "S" and "T" strengths as well. Now if only I could learn some of the "J" skills -- like filing... :ack

tfdswift
09-16-2004, 03:27 AM
Okay I was so happy about taking the test that I forgot to go on and find out what it meant. So I re-clicked the test and took it again now instead of an INFJ I am an ENFJ. The funny thing is whether I or E it was only 1% so now, I just don't know what to think. The NFJ stayed the same:
N- 44%
F- 89%
J- 56%

So now instead of :jump it is :shrug and :smack I don't know whether I am an introvert or an extrovert and somewhere the voices are telling me I may be both... Is that possible? I mean depending on the circumstances at the time? Maybe I am a split personality :head and :snoopy OR :cry and :rofl . Quick somebody say something to make me feel better about myself... Anybody????:huh

~~Tammy

“Today is the best day. Yesterday is gone forever. Tomorrow will never arrive.” ~ David Wolfe

Yeshanu
09-16-2004, 03:42 AM
Tammy,

You may not be normal, but then who wants to be normal? :grin

Seriously, because the free tests tend to be the shorter ones, they aren't always as accurate as the one you pay for. This is especially true if you're close to the line on one of the attributes.

So back to my questions to Ray: Where do you get your energy? From being alone, or from being with people?

(Another interesting difference is when extroverts get a wee bit tired, they tend to get talkative. Introverts just want to yell, "Shut up!" at the extroverts... :ack )

maestrowork
09-16-2004, 04:29 AM
So back to my questions to Ray: Where do you get your energy? From being alone, or from being with people?

Ruth, that's the thing, it depends. Sometimes I absolutely need to have solitude to recharge -- I need lots of sleep, and quiet time to reflect. However, being with people energizes me tremendously, too (the right people -- the wrong people would just DRAIN you).

For example, when I take a vacation, I can't be alone for more than a day -- I'll go nuts. I need to be with people, not necessarily a party, but people (going to town, the theater, the market, etc.) Just walking around town with lots of people around makes me happy. I work better when I'm at Starbucks, etc.

So I think I'm really borderline.

Edit: as of 9/15/04 I'm 11% E (slightly)
87% N (highly)
24% F (moderately)
38% P (moderately)

It kind of does fit my current state of mind and how I do things.

MrAngelwithnowings
09-16-2004, 04:37 AM
Something in my mind made me read this thread...

I took a quiz and it said I was

ESP

whatever that means

LOL

annied
09-16-2004, 06:45 AM
Mine's ENFP...

I can be quite the extrovert when I want to...I found out a while ago that I need to chat with people, and I like listening to their stories and opinions and exchanging information. I get some writing ideas that way.

And yes, I tend to think aloud. I've always done that. My son's used to my chattering with him, but it drives my husband nuts. LOL:grin

Annie

reph
09-16-2004, 07:29 AM
Tammy, the 1 percent means you have a balance of extraversion and intraversion. That's a good thing.

An 89 percent score on feeling is extreme. It suggests that you've underestimated the usefulness of thinking as part of a strategy for dealing with life. Being a total head person or a total heart person means missing something.

littlecupofjoe
09-16-2004, 09:52 AM
Wow! I am so glad I found this thread on MBTI!

They made us take the test when I was working in government. I was skeptical at first. I mean, how can a test adequately portray someone's personality, right? But when I read my results it was very scary how accurate they were!!!!

After taking the test, I went on this self-discovery crusade and bought many of the books on MBTI.

Paul D. Tieger and Barbara Barron-Tieger have written a series of practical books on personality type:

Looking for a career that fits your type? Consult "Do what you are"

Then there is their book on relationships (my personal favourite): "Just your type"

If you have children, read their "Nurture by nature" book.

And finally, if you want to figure out other people's personality type (as long as this skill is used for good and not evil :b ), read: "The Art of SPeed Reading People".

I am not suprised that there are so many INFPs and INTPs on this board. Writing comes naturally to those creative, non-conformist types.

I am an ENFP, Keirsey's Champion Idealist.

We like to write too. And help people.

We are also very perceptive. And we have a very wacky sense of humour. For instance, where I work, there are 3 INFPs, 2 ENFPs, 1 INTP and the boss is a SH*T.

Sorry...time to go to bed, never mind me :rollin

Littlecupofjoe :coffee

reph
09-16-2004, 11:12 AM
Next question: what personality types are your characters?

maestrowork
09-16-2004, 09:08 PM
Good question, Reph. Good question.

In my current WIP, the two leads are INFP and ENTP, I believe. In my finished novel, the protagonist is ENFJ, and the other two leads are INTP and INFJ.

allion
09-19-2004, 06:46 AM
Been away from the boards for a while, but just had to jump in here:

I'm a hard-core INFP married to an ESTJ. It makes for an interesting day sometimes...especially when he wants to dissect a problem by talking about it for a half-hour and I just know from the word go what the answer should be.

I was in a seminar a while ago where we did the Myers Brigg test, and something the instructor said has stayed with me. Under stress, you will be pushed to the limits of your type. If you're an INFP for example, and you're under a deadline, you'll be even more introspective and want to hide under a rock. Those Extroverts will be even more chatty.

The other thing was that some of the best salespeople are actually Introverts. The reasoning is that if the sales pitch is on a one-to-one level, where a person needs to connect to another to make the sale, introverts may do very well at this. The difference would be that afterwards the introvert would go back to recharge in a quiet place and the extrovert would go to celebrate with the office at a restaurant.

INFP's are supposed to be about 5% of the population, if that. Are we all here on the forums?

Glad to be back to see you all.

LiamJackson
09-20-2004, 08:57 PM
According to our clinical staff, I'm the poster child for ENTJ in every respect but one; My introvert/extrovert score had a differential of 2%. (51% extro/49% intro) Not sure what the heck that means.

reph
09-20-2004, 11:58 PM
It means you and I are almost clones, if it means anything at all.

This week's New Yorker has an article about that test and other personality tests.

Elyse
09-21-2004, 12:20 AM
I (67%), N (17%), T (78%) and J (100%). Wow! Does that mean I'm anal?

Elyse

Writing Again
09-22-2004, 06:22 PM
I'm not completely sure I know what everyone here is talking about, not sure I want to know. I'm suspicious of anything that puts people into types.

When I delved into astrology I noticed some people had a tendency to become steriotypical of their sun signs. A person would start out a perfectly normal human being, then discover they were a Cancer, or and Aries. They would read everything they could find about their sun sign, and faithfully adopt every single trait it was claimed belonged to them.

This self steriotyping goes into other things as well. I know a man who discovered the man who raised him was not his father. His father was in fact a Cherokee passing thru town his mother had an affair with.

Now he is every ethnic concept he ever had about indians. For instence he won't have a beer with you now "Because us Indians can't hold our liquer, you know," even tho he never had a problem holding it when he was just another white boy.

So I sit here and wonder, "How many of you are what the tests say you are, and how many of you have become what the tests say you are?"

maestrowork
09-22-2004, 09:36 PM
The tests are based on your own answers on personality traits and behaviors, and have be lab tested. It's not based on some alignments of stars and planets. :rollin

Yeshanu
09-22-2004, 11:43 PM
Actually, the problem with many personality typing systems (and fortunes) is that they're so general that they'd fit about 90% of the population at any given time.

The MBTI is different. It was founded on scientific research, with the purpose of helping people understand why they act the way they do.

For example, you've probably noticed that some people of your acquaintance like to be with lots of people, and love to talk (extroverts), whereas some of your friends may be quieter folks who love to run away with a good book (introverts). Neither of these personality types is "good" or "bad." What they are is different.

The MBTI helps us understand those differences, and use our own strengths to our advantage. It doesn't (and can't, really) change the way we act, since it's based on questions about how we act already. (If you get my drift...)

Gala
09-23-2004, 08:47 AM
Dear Writing,
Don't worry. I'm a Virgo but I'm not a virgin.

As for the tests. Perhaps you have take aptitude and career tests in school? Ever heard of "What color is your parachute"?

The tests we're talking about are similar. They are tools for understanding what makes one tick; the unique drives that push them as writer.

This kind of information is valuable in understanding childhood development as well.

Labels, maybe a little. Tools, certainly. I have never become more introverted or philosophical because a test told me I was that way. But of course, I'm an analyzer, and don't believe everything I read ;)

Is a closet extrovert same as an introvert?

aka eraser
09-23-2004, 09:17 AM
Is a closet extrovert same as an introvert?

Yes Gala, until he/she comes out.

Not that there's anything wrong with that...

maestrowork
09-23-2004, 11:16 AM
These tests are great for managers. I've found them very useful when assigning tasks or forming a team. We'd have the realists attack the crisis and the idealists thinking about long-term strategies and the organizers making schedules and plans... it worked pretty well.

Of course, in the writing world, it's quite interesting to see in what types your characters fall while trying not to typecast them...

Writing Again
09-23-2004, 12:50 PM
The MBTI is different. It was founded on scientific research, with the purpose of helping people understand why they act the way they do.

I'll concede this mitigates my qualms, but does not eliminate it. For instance I found Transactional Analysis to be interesting, informative, and with a lot of truth. I became concerned when I noticed some "true believers" actually developing three distinct personalities, Parent, Child, and Adult, almost as tho they were becoming mini Sybils.


As for the tests. Perhaps you have take aptitude and career tests in school? Ever heard of "What color is your parachute"?

My parachute has a bullseye in the center and somebody already shot a hole in the fool thing. Those kinds of tests were given in high school and I never went. I figured I'd get an early start by becoming a grammar school drop out. Why wait till high school?


I did take an I.Q. test and I managed to flunk it. If I'd have gotten twenty more points I'd've been normal. Twenty less and I'd have been able to get retarded pay. Every intelligent person should give serious consideration to being a retarded person. Less is expected of you, you get paid whether you work or not, and you have so much more time to write.



Of course, in the writing world, it's quite interesting to see in what types your characters fall while trying not to typecast them...


Does "knowing this system" make it harder to avoid typecasting? Does this make for more creative writing, or for lazy writing? "I'll stick an MJB type in here with an AAA, and maybe make the neighbor and NAACP."

I often think of Charles Dickens. Rather than his relying on psychological profiles for his characters, he developed such strong characters from observing people that psychologists and others rely on him for research and understanding. For instance Pickwickian syndrom is the name of a medical condition.