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mady
07-13-2007, 03:20 AM
I wrote and published my book in French and in France; now I translated it and want to publish it in the USA. First time author, unknown, I have not yet found an agent/publisher. Self-publishing is an option, but how can I be sure I make the right choice? I almost signed with authorhouse, I am in contact with Dorrance; can anybody recommend a reputable, honest publisher? How about IUniverse? Lulu? Books, just books?
Thanks...

Ol' Fashioned Girl
07-13-2007, 03:39 AM
Lulu would be my choice. There are several threads around here discussing all those you mentioned. Do a search for them and they can help you. ;) And welcome to AW.

veinglory
07-13-2007, 03:41 AM
If by 'not yet' you mean you still hope to secure a third party publisher you need to hold of on any of these?

DaveKuzminski
07-13-2007, 03:42 AM
You haven't stated if your book is fiction, non-fiction, poetry, or something else. That would be useful to know for anyone trying to give you some advice.

You also haven't indicated if your book was self-published, vanity published, or commercially published in France. That would also be useful to know.

mady
07-13-2007, 03:52 AM
Thanks! I'll answer your questions:
I guess my hope is to find a traditional publisher, but I don't have high hopes; so far, they have turned me down. The only "serious" contacts I have is authorhouse and dorrance, but what I am finding out is not promising.
My book is non-fiction: the story of my family in France in WW2. More specifically, they are from the French province of Alsace which was annexed by Hitler in 1939; I write the stories of 4 soldiers forced into the German army and the Russian front, and 3 women who suffered under the Nazi regime.
It is self-published in France and selling slowly.
I am hoping to do better in the USA...

James D. Macdonald
07-13-2007, 07:04 AM
AuthorHouse (http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=924) and Dorrance (http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8500) are both vanity presses. (As is iUniverse (http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=983).) Your book won't sell well with them, either.

Books Just Books (http://www.booksjustbooks.com/) and Lulu.com are printers. Again, sales will be slow-to-nonexistent (though with a niche non-fiction work still better than you'd do with a novel).

Try looking for agents who represent non-fiction and history. Submit to them according to their guidelines.

Then find small presses that publish history and non-fiction (particularly those that specialize in WWII).

A copy of Writer's Market will be your friend.

Aim high.

Best of luck.

dantem42
07-13-2007, 08:09 AM
Go the agent route. It's a tough slog, and may add six months to a year to your effort, but probably your only ticket to real sales. It may also be there are some publishers specialized in this sort of nonfiction that take direct submissions, but a specialized agent will vastly increase your chances.

Find twenty or thirty nonfiction titles centered on World War II. Google the authors with the word "agent" and you will probably be able to find these agents, that is, ones who have dealt with your field. Query them.

If you yourself have translated from French, and are non-native in English, it would be a good idea to get a good English-speaking beta reader to make sure your translation is on the mark. If it's not, you'll just waste time going out to agents.

Good luck!

mady
07-13-2007, 06:14 PM
Thank you!
I'll try the agent approach, together with the WW2 niche.
I am non-native in English, but I've had my book read and corrected by several highly qualified friends, so I am confident that the translation is on the mark.
One more question:
has anybody heard of Tate Publishing? They claim to actually invest time in money in every book they take on, what do you all know?
Thanks!

waylander
07-13-2007, 06:18 PM
Tate Publishing are not recommended by P+E as they are a subsidy publisher i.e a pay-to-play outfit

Maryn
07-13-2007, 06:19 PM
Tate is just another vanity press. Don't do it.

Maryn, vain but not in that way

Tilly
07-13-2007, 06:20 PM
Very expensive vanity press:
http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=992

There's an index for this board to find information on specific publishers and agents:

http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=792

mady
07-14-2007, 02:27 AM
Thanks everybody.
I did some research and came up with what looks like a small publisher specializing in ww2: Camroc Press
What can you tell me about them?
They only have 2 or 3 books, which are on amazon.

James D. Macdonald
07-14-2007, 02:48 AM
Why aim low?

Many non-fiction publishers, even the biggest, don't require agents.

Why not try Yale University Press?

mady
07-14-2007, 03:17 AM
Why not indeed! I'll contact Yale right now. Thanks!

James D. Macdonald
07-14-2007, 03:23 AM
The worst they can do is say "no." Camroc (two books in three years, Amazon sales ranks in the sub-basement) will still be waiting after you've run through everywhere else.

mady
07-14-2007, 03:28 AM
Right on! I just e-mailed them a synopsis of my book. Fingers crossed...

triceretops
07-14-2007, 03:58 AM
Good for you, mady. Non-fic is especially popular with agents. Go the agent route too.

Tri

mady
08-02-2007, 03:19 AM
I am trying to get ONE ISBN for my book (going to self-publish, doing the whole thing by myself) Is it safe/OK to use an outfit called isbn4authors.com? They seem pretty legit' but do you know if they are? Any other advise?
isbn.org takes a long time and makes it hard to get just one #, they want to sell blocks of 10.
Thank you!

Cathy C
08-02-2007, 03:30 AM
They make it difficult to buy just one because they aren't in the business of selling numbers to authors--they sell to PUBLISHERS. So, always keep in mind that whoever you buy a single number from: a) will be shown as the PUBLISHER in the U.S. Library of Congress; and b) is selling it to you illegally if they tell you you'll be the publisher instead.

Read this (http://www.isbn.org/standards/home/resellers.asp)so you understand the consequences. I have been worrying about a number of the legitimate printers for this very reason.

Good luck finding a home for it. Sounds interesting. :)

Stijn Hommes
08-22-2007, 03:03 PM
Again, sales will be slow-to-nonexistent (though with a niche non-fiction work still better than you'd do with a novel). That depends. Are you doing any marketing?

Stijn Hommes
08-22-2007, 03:09 PM
Their site says: "Starter Publishing Package- $55.00 for BOOKS, CD's DVD's etc..."
I'm very wary. ISBN stands for "international standard BOOK number", so if they're trying to sell you one for CD's or DVD's they're pretty much selling you something useless (apart from perhaps audiobooks on CD).

If you really want to self-publish, go to a company that offers an ISBN in the same breath.

They also seem connected to "Aardvark Global Publishing". which adds to my weariness.

Christine N.
09-06-2007, 02:05 AM
Actually I believe Lulu has worked out a deal with Bowkers where they CAN sell the ISBN to YOU and YOU will be listed as the publisher. Or you can buy one from Lulu, and they will be listed. It's completely legitimate.

Bowkers usually sells in blocks of ten, I think.

Bo Sullivan
09-06-2007, 02:37 AM
You could try Andrew Lownie in London (an Agent) who specialises in non Fiction and he replies really quickly. Your book sounds very interesting.

Barbara

Anthony Stipe
09-16-2007, 07:37 AM
Check out De Novo Publishing. They're pretty new, but they offer publishing & marketing packages that put iUniverse, AuthorHouse, and the others to shame. I just signed with them, and they're consummate professionals with a great personal touch. Highly recommended.

James D. Macdonald
09-25-2007, 09:37 AM
I just signed with them, and they're consummate professionals with a great personal touch. Highly recommended.

Hi, Anthony. You wouldn't, by any chance, happen to own De Novo Publishing, would you?

Anthony Stipe
10-03-2007, 10:11 PM
No, James, I am not the owner of De Novo Publishing; I am, though, the newly appointed Director Of Public Relations for the company. Their founding personnel approached me through a mutual friend when they decided to go public with their services, and, after signing with them to publish a book that I've long wanted to see in print, I decided to join their staff because of how strongly I believe in all the great work they're doing for struggling authors.

I'd be more than happy to provide you with the contact info for the owners of the company, if you'd like.

James D. Macdonald
10-11-2007, 03:32 AM
No, Anthony. I don't need to get in contact with them. It's just that their MySpace page was rather scanty on information on who exactly owned the press and what their experience in publishing was.

You sounded enthusiastic, and that made me wonder. It turns out that while you're not the owner you are an employee.

Could you tell us who the owners and editors are, and the titles of a few of your better-selling books?

veinglory
10-11-2007, 03:56 AM
I terms of public relations it is a good idea not to seem to be giving an impartial or customer endorsement when this is not the case.