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JB_Finesse
07-10-2007, 05:13 AM
I've decided my unfortunate character will "shoot himself" (someone will put a gun in his hand and pull the trigger). The problem is, he has to be incapacitated for this to happen. At first I thought of injecting him with air and shooting him in the same location, but according to my dad they'd find the clot in the autopsy. He could have the gun put to his head and fired, then put in his hand and fired again (as a blank), but making it look right would be a pain in the ass, and blood splatter specialists might figure out that there's no blood on the guy's sleeve.

So how the hell can I make this work? Barbiturates, maybe? Or would forensics figure out that he was already knocked out when he died? I need help. Remember, this is purely hypothetical. :D

Penguin Queen
07-10-2007, 05:25 AM
Drunk?

He could be so drunk that both his judgement & his motor capacities are affected, and it could look as though he needed some Dutch courage to go through with the suicide?

alleycat
07-10-2007, 06:55 AM
Does it have to be a suicide? Does it have to be with a gun?

If I was going to do that to someone (hypothetical), my first choice would be to make it look like an accident over a suicide (lesser chance of it being investigated thoroughly). If I needed to make it look like a suicide, I'm probably use some other means than a gun. And then I'd leave a clue that would indicate that it was a suicide.

latoya
07-10-2007, 07:09 AM
Perhaps your unfortunate character could somehow be forced to commit suicide. Persuasion? Hypnosis? Threat?

Does the unfortunate character *have* to be incapacitated? The real culprit could be stronger than him and physically force him to commit suicide.

JB_Finesse
07-10-2007, 09:09 AM
Why a gun? Because it seems right. Why suicide instead of an accident? Trust me, there's a reason. And accidents can sometimes be even harder to fake. There's definitely going to be a clue. Or, well, a couple dozen of them.

Alcohol or drugs sounds like the best bet.

Physically forcing him to blow his own head off? Too risky. There'd almost definitely be signs of a struggle, and the gun could go off prematurely, perhaps even injuring the culprit. Said culprit might have a hell of a time doing such a thing, anyway.

Stijn Hommes
07-10-2007, 12:57 PM
There's an article at writing-world.com that has some excellent tips on the difference between suicide and murder. If you have to incapacitate him, I'd go with some exotic barbituate. Investigators will run a tox screen, but because of the sheer amount of toxins in the world, they'll only look for the common ones unless there is a reason to test for a specific one.

JoniBGoode
07-11-2007, 06:37 PM
There's a great scene where a para-military group immobilizes an FBI agent and almost forces him to shoot himself with his own gun, in the movie "The Shooter." They tie him up and use a mechanical contraption that forces his arm into firing position while holding his own gun. Check it out...

Lyra Jean
07-11-2007, 07:24 PM
Hypnosis.

JerseyGirl1962
07-13-2007, 09:17 PM
There's an article at writing-world.com that has some excellent tips on the difference between suicide and murder.

FYI, here's (http://www.writing-world.com/mystery/suicide.shtml) the direct link to the article.

~Nancy