Who's entitled to publication?

Status
Not open for further replies.

Dave.C.Robinson

... with the High Command
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Nov 5, 2006
Messages
2,130
Reaction score
186
Location
At the computer
Website
www.daverobinsonwrites.com
Just a quick question: Who here thinks they're entitled to be published? Or that anyone is.

I can't say that I do. I want to be published, I'm working on getting published, but all I'm entitled to is the opportunity to try.
 

underthecity

Finestkind
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Feb 13, 2005
Messages
3,126
Reaction score
768
Location
Near Cincinnati
Website
www.allensedge.com
I don't know that anyone is actually entitled to getting published, but many PA and vanity authors believe they are. I mean, who makes the decision? You are entitled. (Points to next person) You are not.

If you've worked hard on a book that you think a lot of people will like, that doesn't necessarily entitle you to publication. An author has to work hard to get it published, but entitlement? I don't think so.

allen
 

Claudia Gray

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Feb 20, 2007
Messages
2,918
Reaction score
604
What would that even mean, "entitled" to be published? It's not a moral judgment on a writer or his/her work -- it's simply a matter of matching up product and customer, so far as being "published" counts.

(Who's entitled to have their work valued -- that would be a more meaningful debate, but also a big can of worms!)
 

MidnightMuse

Midnight Reading
Kind Benefactor
Super Member
Registered
Joined
May 23, 2006
Messages
8,424
Reaction score
2,554
Location
In the toidy.
The only thing anyone is "entitled" to on this earth is leaving it.
 

aadams73

A Work in Progress
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Feb 12, 2005
Messages
9,901
Reaction score
6,428
Location
Oregon
Screw entitled; I'm going to earn it. :)
 

Del

Sky isn't falling, ground is rising
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Oct 10, 2006
Messages
4,048
Reaction score
1,781
Location
In a hole in the dark in a cold cold place
Why worry about it?

Everyone is overcritical. There is always something in every book, a stall point, something you disagree with...suddenly the book had no right to be published. Nearly every book has someone that is grateful for having the opportunity to read it. Doesn't that give it entitlement?

You can't judge yourself. You aren't qualified. Leave that to your public. You just have to get it past those picky publishers.
 
Last edited:

pconsidine

Too Adorkable for Words
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Mar 8, 2005
Messages
2,594
Reaction score
358
Location
Connecticut, USA
Website
www.pjcopy.com
I'm kinda curious as to what inspired the question. I mean, there are certainly writers of all stripes who give the impression they think they have a God-given right to be published, but I tend to discount those people right off the bat as writing's equivalent of the first few episodes of American Idol. Maybe it's just a sign of my growing experience that only writers with the right attitude even cross my consciousness anymore.
 

III

rockin the suburbs
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Aug 21, 2006
Messages
4,672
Reaction score
3,566
Location
Spurs Country
Website
www.jayyoungweb.com
Whoever writes material that a publisher thinks is marketable and will earn them a profit deserves to be published. Like any band that will turn a profit for a record company deserves to be produced. Like any movie that will make a profit for the producers or increase their market share deserves to be produced. Does that necessarily make any of it good? Hell no! It probably makes it edited and polished better, but just turn on your radio or look at the movies in the theaters right now and tell me what percentage you'd consider "really good and worthy of production".

Vanity publishing or endless querying for the rest of us, baby. Viva la Vanity.
 

Jersey Chick

Up all night to get Loki
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Mar 9, 2007
Messages
12,320
Reaction score
4,278
Location
in the state of carefully controlled chaos
Website
www.kimberlynee.com
I think the ones who feel entitled are the ones who rarely make it - hence PA and other vanity presses. Anyone with an ounce of realism knows it takes more than a simple "I wrote a book, it should be published" to actually get there.

The only possible exception could be the big-name authors. They've paid their dues (for the most part), so if they have a sense of entitlement, I think it's understandable. Of course, if they submit crap, it's their name on the line as well.
 

kristie911

Happy to be here
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Jul 17, 2005
Messages
4,449
Reaction score
2,460
Location
my own little world
I hate the word entitled. Brings to mind Paris Hilton, who thinks she's entitled to everything.

Because of that, I will never believe that I'm entitled to anything, including being published! I'll work for it, thank-you. :)
 

Sean D. Schaffer

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Nov 18, 2006
Messages
4,026
Reaction score
1,433
Just a quick question: Who here thinks they're entitled to be published? Or that anyone is.

I can't say that I do. I want to be published, I'm working on getting published, but all I'm entitled to is the opportunity to try.


I remember watching a commercial (I think it was a Xerox commercial about On-Demand Printing or something to that effect) where a professor stood before his class and stated, "Of course everyone has the RIGHT to be published, but..."

And I'll stop right there.

There is no RIGHT to be published. No human being is entitled to be published, and like AAdams73 said, every person has to earn it.

If we did not have to earn our publishing credits, we would never appreciate them nor would we have any incentive to make our writing the best we can make it. I often talk about how I've been writing for 25 years and have never been legitimately published. There's a simple reason for this: I have not earned legitimate publication yet. Even though my writing has garnered me some cool responses from editors and agents, the fact remains I have yet to earn my ability to be legitimately published.

So the idea of a publishing entitlement is a myth. No one has the right to be published; we all have to earn it, or we will never appreciate our accomplishments.
 

janetbellinger

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Feb 3, 2006
Messages
2,770
Reaction score
427
Location
Orangeville, Ontario
I agree with Kristie. Entitled has no bearing on it. It's all a matter of whether or not your novel is both able to captivate and agent or editor's heart and whether it appears tha it will sell. I understand both conditions need to be present before the novel has a chance of acceptance by either editor or agent. I certainly am not entitled to publication and don't expect it to happen until I have succeeded in transforming my novel into a piece of compelling and enlightening fiction that draws in the editor/agent to the point (s)he is convinced the reading public will want to buy it.
 

Jamesaritchie

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Feb 13, 2005
Messages
27,863
Reaction score
2,311
Entitled

Well, according to the Constitution, we're all entitled to be self-published, but when you try to get someone else to publish your work, it's their rights that matter, not yours. They are entitled to buy what they wish, to reject what they wish, and to publish what they wish.
 

BenPanced

THE BLUEBERRY QUEEN OF HADES (he/him)
Kind Benefactor
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Nov 5, 2006
Messages
17,874
Reaction score
4,667
Location
dunking doughnuts at Dunkin' Donuts
How could you possibly know what Paris Hilton thinks?
I tried a mind meld, and this is all I picked up:
00038rq2
 
Status
Not open for further replies.