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abwallace
06-02-2007, 11:43 AM
July of 2007, my seven years contract with Publish America would come to an end. I asked Author Support name and address of individual I needed to contact, and I received a response. It arrived at the post office.

As of May 10, 2007, my contracted has been terminated per my request, and that PA is discontinuing the publication of The Mark of the Werewolf. And all rights are returned to me.

I'm planning to put it away for a while, then open it up one day and decide what to do with it then.

Just wanted to let you all know.

Toni

Jennifer Robins
06-02-2007, 12:23 PM
Good for you. I was released for two books last year. I found the best thing to do is move on and write something new. I did and it is being published by Champagne Books. I also have another novel finished and I am busy sending queries to agents for that one. As far as the PA books, I don't think I will re write them. I have grown so much now, it seems like a waste of time and it's hard to find a publisher to take any thing that has been published previously.
Good luck to you.

Jennifer Robins
www.jenniferrobins.com (http://www.jenniferrobins.com)

Saundra Julian
06-02-2007, 02:03 PM
Congratulations, Toni!

Christine N.
06-02-2007, 02:08 PM
Yay, Toni!!!!

How's things? Haven't heard from you in a long while (oh, and if you try to use my LBF e-mail, hon, it's not working. Use my regular e-mail or C.NorrisATlachesispublishingDOTcom)

James D. Macdonald
06-02-2007, 06:10 PM
I did and it is being published by Champagne Books.

Champagne Books: These people? http://www.champagnebooks.com/

Writing more and trying to sell 'em the real way is your best choice.

Sandy J
06-02-2007, 06:12 PM
So glad you're free of the shackles of PA!! :hooray:

Jennifer Robins
06-02-2007, 06:22 PM
Champagne Books: These people? http://www.champagnebooks.com/

Writing more and trying to sell 'em the real way is your best choice.

What is it you think about Champagne Books? I'm getting some good editing there and my book is looking pretty good. I have more novels, and I'm looking for an agent. I would like to get with a bigger publisher.

Jennifer Robins

BarbJ
06-04-2007, 11:47 PM
:hooray:

Sassenach
06-04-2007, 11:57 PM
Unless I misread your post, the contract was expiring in July. So while I'm glad you're rid of PA, what's the big deal about a month early?

joyce
06-05-2007, 12:06 AM
:partyguy: Congratulations on your new found freedom. From the sound of that place I'd be happy six months in advance if I knew I was going to be let out of a contract with them.

allenparker
06-05-2007, 12:23 AM
Unless I misread your post, the contract was expiring in July. So while I'm glad you're rid of PA, what's the big deal about a month early?

bragging rites.

As in the rite of passage that allow a PA author to feel better once they know they have battled and won.


Or would that be rights, anyway?

I never can seem to get the correct rite, or I write the wrong right.

My head hurts...

Congrats on a release... Right?

BarbJ
06-05-2007, 12:28 AM
You're right, Allen - it's the traditional rite announcing the right to a rite of rightful rites.

Want an asprin? :tongue

Christine N.
06-05-2007, 12:48 AM
Toni's had a hard road of late (a very hard road, and it's not for me to tell you about it), and I'm sure this is one less thing weighing on her mind.

So lay off her.

abwallace
06-05-2007, 07:58 AM
Thank you all for your comments. And Christine--you're right.

Sassenach
06-05-2007, 10:14 PM
Toni's had a hard road of late (a very hard road, and it's not for me to tell you about it), and I'm sure this is one less thing weighing on her mind.

So lay off her.

I was asking a question. If you've got a problem with it, I suggest you PM me rather than telling me how to act.

brianm
06-05-2007, 10:25 PM
Congratulations. Regardless of what some sour puss members may say, I'm glad you've rid yourself of PA and that monkey on your back.

Bufty
06-05-2007, 10:32 PM
It's always great to learn that one more has been freed. Congratulations, Toni

tjwriter
06-05-2007, 10:47 PM
Congratulations on the FACT that you are rid of them entirely.

Whether a month early, or years, it's great to escape.

Woohoo!

Christine N.
06-05-2007, 10:49 PM
Sass, you and I both know you never 'just ask a question'. Not in your nature. :) You always manage to sound snarky; in fact I don't know that I've ever seen you say a single nice thing to anyone. Normally it doesn't bother me, but in this case it really wasn't warranted.


The big deal is she's free, doesn't matter how.

Sassenach
06-05-2007, 10:55 PM
Christine:

Thanks for your illuminating exploration of my nature. Feel free to put me on ignore.

CatSlave
06-05-2007, 11:15 PM
July of 2007, my seven years contract with Publish America would come to an end. I asked Author Support name and address of individual I needed to contact, and I received a response. It arrived at the post office.

As of May 10, 2007, my contracted has been terminated per my request, and that PA is discontinuing the publication of The Mark of the Werewolf. And all rights are returned to me.

I'm planning to put it away for a while, then open it up one day and decide what to do with it then.

Just wanted to let you all know.

Toni
:PartySmil
That's wonderful. Congratulations!

Now keep an eye on your book for any sales that may occur after your rights are returned. It may be grounds for a lawsuit if you have evidence. Just something to keep in mind while you're writing your next book.

abwallace
06-05-2007, 11:36 PM
Unless I misread your post, the contract was expiring in July. So while I'm glad you're rid of PA, what's the big deal about a month early?

The greatest thing about the internet (IMO) is the ability to share information easily. And thatís all I was doing. Where better than here about PA. Iím not sure why you became concerned about the time frame. Iíd think youíd want to know why my questions werenít answered. Why they didnít give me a name and address? Instead sent me my termination papers? So in answer to your question, the time frame is no big deal. And I am sorry I didnít answer your question earlier. I honestly thought you were giving me a hard time, and not expecting an answer.

MelodyO
06-06-2007, 12:07 AM
It sounds like a heavy load's been lifted from your shoulders. I'm glad you can start fresh now. \0/

BrookieCookie777
06-06-2007, 12:40 AM
Ok - that makes me so happy, I feel the need for a really crappy rhyme . . .

WEEEEE!!! YOUR FREEEEE!!!!

Congrats on the release! =) It feels nice to be let free from those PublishAmerica chains!

Good luck on your future ventures!!

Arkie
06-06-2007, 02:30 AM
The greatest thing about the internet (IMO) is the ability to share information easily. And thatís all I was doing. Where better than here about PA. Iím not sure why you became concerned about the time frame. Iíd think youíd want to know why my questions werenít answered. Why they didnít give me a name and address? Instead sent me my termination papers? So in answer to your question, the time frame is no big deal. And I am sorry I didnít answer your question earlier. I honestly thought you were giving me a hard time, and not expecting an answer.



A.B.Not to belabor the point, but Amazon has your publication date as June 1, 2001, which means your seven-year contract would expire on May 1, 2008, not in 2007, per your initial post. What seems extraordinary to me is they kept you under contract for six years. Congratulations are indeed in order.

JimmyD1318
06-06-2007, 02:45 AM
Congrats on getting your freedom back from those slimeballs! Party Time!:PartySmil

DaveKuzminski
06-06-2007, 04:08 AM
A.B.Not to belabor the point, but Amazon has your publication date as June 1, 2001, which means your seven-year contract would expire on May 1, 2008, not in 2007, per your initial post. What seems extraordinary to me is they kept you under contract for six years. Congratulations are indeed in order.

Weren't the contracts back in 2001 generally for the life of the copyright? If so, then it's a really big deal that PA has terminated the contract. Maybe that was about when they'd already changed it and I'm wrong. Either way, I'm glad you're free of them.

Jersey Chick
06-06-2007, 04:22 AM
Congratulations on your newfound freedom.

Look - Snoopy's doin' the happy dance!

:snoopy:

abwallace
06-06-2007, 07:22 AM
A.B.Not to belabor the point, but Amazon has your publication date as June 1, 2001, which means your seven-year contract would expire on May 1, 2008, not in 2007, per your initial post. What seems extraordinary to me is they kept you under contract for six years. Congratulations are indeed in order.

Yes, Yes, Arkie. I thought the same thing. So I checked the amendment to my contract to make sure. The date on the amendment was for July 5 of 2007. I signed contract a year earlier, July 4 of 2000. When I received my amendment to contract, they calculated it from date contract was signed. I don't know if that's common practice or an error.

abwallace
06-06-2007, 07:26 AM
Weren't the contracts back in 2001 generally for the life of the copyright? If so, then it's a really big deal that PA has terminated the contract. Maybe that was about when they'd already changed it and I'm wrong. Either way, I'm glad you're free of them.

You are right Dave. I signed in 2000. I asked for changes in contract when my novel a month after my novel was released, after I started speaking to other PA authors at that time.

bluebaloo79
06-08-2007, 10:11 PM
Hey everyone, I am new to this thread and am pleading for your help...anyone's. I too, just last winter fell for this PA scam and I have since tried to get my contract cancelled. Can anyone help me in finding a way out, any way out. I am pleading. lol.

Author of
Misery's Companion (Iuniverse)
Tools of Terror (PublishAmerica...currently in process of cancelling contract)

CatSlave
06-08-2007, 10:28 PM
Hey everyone, I am new to this thread and am pleading for your help...anyone's. I too, just last winter fell for this PA scam and I have since tried to get my contract cancelled. Can anyone help me in finding a way out, any way out. I am pleading. lol.

Author of
Misery's Companion (Iuniverse)
Tools of Terror (PublishAmerica...currently in process of cancelling contract)
Welcome to AW, Bluebaloo.:welcome:
There are a number of your ex-PA compatriots here, and a lot of folks who will be glad to help you. As you get acquainted with the different PA threads, you may find answers to a lot of your questions. Just ask, and you will be surprised how many people will respond. Nicely. :)

DeadlyAccurate
06-08-2007, 10:35 PM
Hi, bluebaloo79, and welcome. You'll find your PA thread on your problems is being discussed in the "PAMB and its quotes (http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38537&page=56)" thread and people are pulling for you.

James D. Macdonald
06-09-2007, 12:20 AM
Hey everyone, I am new to this thread and am pleading for your help...anyone's. I too, just last winter fell for this PA scam and I have since tried to get my contract cancelled. Can anyone help me in finding a way out, any way out. I am pleading. lol.

Author of
Misery's Companion (Iuniverse)
Tools of Terror (PublishAmerica...currently in process of cancelling contract)

Hi, bluebaloo79 --

Welcome! We've been making cookies for you. See the discussion here (http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26537&page=269) and here (http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38537&page=87).

The easiest way out, many have found, is to tell PA that you aren't going to buy any copies of your own books. You've already done that.


Also -- this is a big site, and the PA discussion is only a small part of it. Please visit other areas to discuss books and writing.

My best advice to you right now is to write a new, better, different book, and when you're done, aim high.

brianm
06-09-2007, 12:30 AM
Welcome to AW, bluebaloo79!

I'm sorry for all that you going through at the present time. I applaud you for standing up to PA and warning others away from PA.

Many have had their contracts terminated by PA. I know you will receive a great deal of advice and help here at AW in getting your rights back to your book.

AW has so much to offer writers. I hope you will look around the site and join in the forums.

Again, welcome!

JulieB
06-09-2007, 08:03 AM
Welcome, bluebaloo79!

Glad you found us. Cookies are in the oven and there's a pot of coffee brewing. Pull up a chair.

luckygyrl1005
07-05-2007, 11:40 PM
I have seven years to go... unless I can get it cancelled before then. I don't know how that works. I just want to cut all ties with them and start over, fresh.. if that's possible. I feel like I've been violated in the worst way! I just deleted my freewebs site that linked PA to my books. I'll be using my real name to write under now, since my pen name will be haunted by PA.
Any suggestions?

Sparhawk
07-06-2007, 05:03 PM
YESSS!!!! Another soul freed from PAvidian bondage !!!!

Bluebaloo welcome to AW, you're with a fantastic group of people and a great weatlh of publishing and writing knowledge... though not necessarily from me but from others ;)

luckygyrl1005
07-06-2007, 07:53 PM
Thanks, and it feels great to be here. I have to admit, I still browse through the PA message boards, just to see what they'e all babbling about.. It makes me sick to my stomach to see them oohhing and awwing all over each other's books. And, how they say people who aren't happy with PA are just jealous! OMG! Jealous of what? Being an idiot?
Sorry, I have my opionions, at least I'm allowed to express them on this board. I can't tell you how many times PA came onto the board and threatened to ban me if I didn't stop expressing how I really felt!

LoneWolf
08-13-2007, 05:41 AM
Howdy, Folks!

Hope the boss doesn't get mad at me for posting the same thing twice. The first time was over on the Newby board, and some kind soul suggested that I come over here and introduce myself.

Yup, it looks like I may have been taken in by PublishAmerica too. It hasn't come out yet, as they are now in cover design. However, I guess I'll just have to make the best of a bad situation. Live and learn, as the saying goes.

I'm thinking I may have a work-around anyway. My book is a highly controversial, in your face challenge to the social status quo. If anyone is fed up with the way things are today (and everyone I've spoken to is), they'll find something to laugh and/or scream about in this book. I'm hoping that in itself will help alleviate part of the problem. Naturally, I fully expect to sell 3 million copies within the first month. LOL!!

The title? EASIN' ON -- The Confessions of an American Outlaw written by LoneWolf. He's a no-good cuss, I know, 'cause that's me. And everything in the book is the gospel truth too. My favorite proctologist told me so. I figure this book will either make me rich or get me shot - the odds are about even. (Grin)

If anyone wants a preview, check out howlinmad.net. That's my own domain, and the first 6 chapters are available there. Be sure to keep a shovel handy!

Hope you 'low ugly ol' varmits like me on here! Any words of advice would be most welcome!

Tom Howell
LoneWolf

tlblack
08-13-2007, 05:50 AM
:welcome: to AW Lonewolf! Any questions you have, feel free to ask. Someone with the right answer will pipe up soon or later. In the meantime, there's drinks and loads of popcorn. (provided you can get it away from Jimmy ;) He's addicted to it.)

My Dad used to long haul and had to retire from trucking in '84 when he got hit with some 3/4" steel pipe that fell off the forklift on top of him, while they were shifting his load. It took him four years to recover from it. He met a lot of good people in the trucking industry and has a lot of his own stories.

When you get done with the introductions, browse around the rest of AW. This is a big place with a whole lot of friendly people and a lot of information. Good luck to you.

CatSlave
08-13-2007, 05:56 AM
Oh good, there you are.
We like varmints here. :)

burgy61
08-13-2007, 08:22 AM
:snoopy: Congratulations, abwallace, a happy time indeed. Good luck with your future writing.

Saundra Julian
08-13-2007, 02:59 PM
Congratulations to everyone who has the guts to fight PA... I've been out of their clutches for over a year and couldn't be more thrilled. You can rid yourself of them too but it's a long journey because PA loves to play head games with authors who don't drink the Kool Aid... Hang tough. Don't give up. It will happen!