Late Night at the Emergency Room

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Okay just so you know up front, my son is okay. I just gotta share what happened last night at the ER. I don't know if I should laugh or cry or get really angry about it.

To set this up, my son (age 15) was skate boarding last friday at his father's house. He, like many kids fell and hurt his hip and wrist. Now this kid has fractured both his wrists...each of them three times. Yes folks, six broken wrists and in the last few years only sprains. Thank goodness. He has had a good deal of coordination issues as a young boy and needed Occupational Therapy but as he is sprouting into quite the young man that has been getting much better. Okay so on to my story.

So, he came home to me on Sunday and said his wrist was sore. I had him ice it, took a good look at it, gave him some ibuprofen with the instructions if the pain got worse he was to tell me. He hates...oh did I mention he aboslutely hates doctors and especially the ER. He has had so many visits due to Asthma and Pneumonia as well.

Anyway, he comes home Monday after school saying his wrist really hurts that the kids knocked him around in the halls a bit so I suggest we go to the doctor.

"No! Mom, Please, no"

"But what if it is broken."

"It's a sprain, I promise Mom, I would know if it was broken."

"Okay well let's at least get a wrist guard or splint on it and immobilize and take some more ibuprofen."

"K, anything but please don't make me go to the doctor."

So we go to Rite Aid, I buy a nice splint/wrist guard. We go to Beans and Brews and I buy the kid McDonalds. *holds a hand up* wait, wait, he loves McDonalds. Don't ask me why.

He feels much better and goes to bed without much complaint.

My son comes home from school yesterday saying his hand is aching so I give him something to eat, and some pain relievers because he can't take them to school with him. But by around ten last night he comes downstairs and he is a pale as a sheet. Now he is also suffering from allergy season so i am making sure he is breathing okay and he is hold his wrist.

"Are you okay?" I ask.

"No, Mom. It really hurts."

I was about to run an errand up to his sister's apartment so I tell him to come with me. Once we get there he is hugging his sister and saying,

"Hilary, how bad do you think this is?"

Now all three of my kids have had weak wrists so they commiserate. To my amazement, this tough 15 year old puts his head on his sister's shoulder (he is about 5'9" now and she is a whopping 5'2".) and she hugs him. Yeah it was one of those lump in the throat moments for me as a mom.

"Nah, Bud...if it was broke, it wouldn't hurt this bad." She says.

"Are you sure Hilary? Cos that sounds like an old wives's tale." I ask.

"Well that is what Dad always says." She replies.

Okay that was my first clue. So we get in the car because it is now it is cruising on half past ten at night and he has school in the morning. But on the way home, he is really in agony and says,

"Mom my hand feels so cold and I have shooting pains into my fingers."

I felt his hand. It was warm. Yeah okay, I freaked.

"Right, we are going to the ER."

"No, Mom. The money...."

"Whoa is that what this is about? The money?"

"Well, I know it is alot for xrays."

"Steve, this isn't about money, this is about you and being okay. It is only money."

Now we get to the ER. We walk in, wait a few minutes and get taken to a nurse. She won't let me say a word. My son has to answer her questions. I get a bit twitchy because I hate how they treat everyone like we are all child abusers these days thanks to the ones who are. When he tells her he did it on Friday. She looks up at me accusingly:

"You mean you waited this long to come in?"

I explain the situation to her that he and I thought it was getting better that he hurt it at his Dad's house on Friday, I didn't see him till Sunday and the minute I thought it was not getting better and his pain was definitive and escalating I brought him in.

"oh, that's good then."

We get taken to a small room. If you have been to an ER or watched it on TV, you know the one with the small cot and a curtain. We are sharing the isle called Hall 1 & 2. The guy in the bed next to my son is a guy in his mid-thirties with down syndrome and his wonderfully loving mother is scared to pieces. I look at her with a smile that I hope is reassuring.

"Asthma." She says. "He can't breathe."

"He'll be okay." I reply. "You got him here in time." She looks relieved and grateful.

I am thinking about now, where is the hospital staff meant to reassure her? A male nurse walks by, sees my son.

"What'd ya do Bud?"

My son grins:

"Skateboarding ...last friday..."

The nurse looks at me:

"You only brought him in now?"

Again I explain the entire story---"Oh, well yes, that's reasonable. Someone will help you soon and take you to x-ray. And Bud no skateboarding for awhile, K?" Then he leaves.

Now, we soon discover that Hall we are in is next to the lounge and the supply closet so every time someone comes by they ask us what happened!
The lady and her son get taken away and they replace a person who looks to me like he could easily be a stunt double for Liam Neison and his arm is oozing some scary looking stuff. My son looks at me and mouths the words, "oh no this is gonna be gross." I give him my best, shhhh, look and we both crack up. Okay so we were laughing at a guy's puss infested arm at midnight. We had to do something to relieve the stress of a hospital ER filled with wounded or sick people. Finally, the doctor comes over. Very nice amiable woman. Very efficient and competent looking.

"Hi, I'm Dr. Miner. What happened Bud?" At this point I want to know how they know I call my son Bud but I look at my son who is grinning from ear to ear. Keep in mind we have answered this question, and I kid you not, five times already.

"Can you guess?"

"Um, no?"

"Sure you can, guess." And he is grinning. I realize, oh my word, he is proud of his injury and I can't help but smile. It was a milestone for this 15 year old boy who has had so many health problems that he felt like a geek or a dork most of his life now. He didn't see her peek at his chart and I wasn't about to tell him.

"Skateboarding?"

"YEP!"

"When did this happen?"

"Friday at my Dad's house..." Oh yay! She turns around and glares at me.

"Friday and you waited till today to bring him in?"

So there I go again and I rehearse the same story over to her as I did the FIVE other people prior to her and tell her that the pain pills weren't working either.

"What kind of pain pills?"

"You know, tylenol, aspirin, ibuprofen."

She gives a relieved look and says,

"Oh well yes, I can see why you waited then. Someone will come soon and take you to x-ray."

The thought crossed my mind however briefly to say,

"Yeah I gave him Phentermine." You all are corrupting me now.

THEN, she starts working on Puss-Man as my son started calling him. They didn't even draw the curtain. My son is freaking out quietly pleading with me to draw the curtain and I am telling him I can't cos it would be rude. So I get up and walk over and start rubbing his arm above where it hurts and patting his head.

"Mom, I'm not dying."

"Well at least you forgot about Puss-man there for a minute."

"Oh sure, remind me why don't you." And we both giggle out of control.

In the end they did his x-ray and the doctor comes back and explains they can't tell for sure if he broke his growth plate or not but in a week if it isn't better we need to see a specialist. They splint it and we get subjected to ONE MORE questioning of the nurse who checked us out.

My son and I about ran out of the ER. We get in the car and he says:

"And you wonder why I hate hospitals and doctors. It felt like they were gonna call child services or something cos we waited." He paused and then added,

"Oh and by the way Mom, I'm going to school tomorrow."

"Bud, don't say things like that when I am driving. I almost passed out."

I figure, he can't wait to show his splint and tell all his new found skateboarding buddies that he might have cracked his growth plate while doing tricks on his board.

Me? I want to ring someone's neck because today, parents get told that they shouldn't bring their kids into the doctor for a few days and then when you wait, they practically accuse you of neglect.

Okay, that is the end of my rant. Hope you found it some what amusing.

Thanks for listening yall.
 
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You only waited til last night to bring him in?
 

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It's really bad when you go through that streak of injuries and get to be on a first name basis with the admissions nurse.

It's great he's ok though.
 

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Yesterday when my son came home from school he told me that his Computer Tech teacher asked him if his mother hated him. When I asked him why he said,

"Because they all know how much school I missed at the end of last quarter and how you are always doing what you can to help and now this." And he held up his wrist.

It just is what it is. What can you do? You love them no matter what the cost and he IS along with his brother and his sister, the light of my life.
 

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So after all that they just gave him a splint and come back a week later? Big deal -- you could have done that yourself. That's another reason why I hate hospital. I just spent $2500 on medical procedures and they still couldn't find what I had (when I was sick for over a month). What a waste of time and money.

What happened to puss man?
 

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So after all that they just gave him a splint and come back a week later? Big deal -- you could have done that yourself. That's another reason why I hate hospital. I just spent $2500 on medical procedures and they still couldn't find what I had (when I was sick for over a month). What a waste of time and money.

What happened to puss man?
You know, don't you just love the irony? They make this huge fuss...say, you waited four days? and then say, If he isn't better in a week see a specialist because he could have an occult fracture in his growth plate. The doctor did look a bit sheepish after carrying on the way she did.

Oh and puss man...he was telling the same doctor,

"I know I was in here last night but this is really hurting me and I am worried."

"Oh, I am not, I am sure I got everything last night."

At this point I am thinking why is he back here oozing then?

"I will just open this up and look she tells him." Thankfully she drew the curtain.

Enters Nurse:

"Wow, that is a lot of infection."

"Yes, I am surprised, he had a hidden cavity of it here." I can only assume she pointed to it. But oh she was sure she got it all last night.

"I just want this over with please be sure you get it all this time." Puss man pleads.

"I am sure I have now...gosh that was almost 30 CCs of puss."

Thankfully by this time, we got our walking papers and we fled. I am sure this is going to cost a pretty penny. But you know what Ray, they have us by the throat don't they? The HMO's and doctors. This hospital and it's staff is owned by the HMO my ex has a policy for. *thwapps forehead*

Yet they know I have no choice. When a teenage boy's growth plate is the concern we have to pay attention.
 

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I once went to the ER because my body went entirely numb. I was having sex at the time, but when it was still numb a half hour later, I freaked and we went to the hospital. I had to explain to about six different people what had happened and what I was doing at the time, and EVERY ONE of them glared at me until I added "with my husband" at which point they left me alone.

The diagnosis? "Come back if you still can't feel anything in a few days."

I hate hospitals.
 

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When I broke my arm (twice btw) they asked me over and over and over and over...how did it happen?

I finally got mad (I was an angry child when asked stupid questions) and said "I don't remember". They didn't ask again. I was clumsy...lol.

It makes you wonder just how far society is going to go with this. Is every parent under suspicion then? My son is an amiable fellow. His older brother would have told them to knock it off. He was and still is quite a feisty guy.

I just sat there patiently waiting for them to have enough of the same story that they would tire of it. In the end they just looked silly.

I think some kids are just awkward and their muscles don't develop as well as others. On the way home my son asked me if I thought karate would help him and I said..only after your wrist is better and you wear wrist guards while you learn. :D

But I do understand that we can't just let possible abuse go unchecked but man...they asked me like six times! and him as well. It just makes you feel like you want to say:

"Oh yeah I did it, I beat him. Can't you tell? Look pull down his jeans where I hit him with a baseball bat on his hip. See there! That is the bruise. Oh and while your at it. Look how skinny he is. I never feed him. Circles under his eyes? Yeah I punched him in the face."

Good grief, my son mentioned he bruised his hip when he fell on the concrete driveway, he was dressed in "skater' fashion right down to is shoes and he was smiling at me and hugging me. Yeah ..there's a clue. Kids love their parents to abuse them.

Okay ..end rant :D
 

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I once went to the ER because my body went entirely numb. I was having sex at the time, but when it was still numb a half hour later, I freaked and we went to the hospital. I had to explain to about six different people what had happened and what I was doing at the time, and EVERY ONE of them glared at me until I added "with my husband" at which point they left me alone.

The diagnosis? "Come back if you still can't feel anything in a few days."

I hate hospitals.
Oh my word! LOL....I am glad you set them straight.

After I have been on this forum now for um? counts...9 months, I would have been hard pressed not to blurt out, it's those late nights taking Phentermine, hanging out in the Royal Kingdom and HOL too long. ;)
 

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I went to ER because I was really sick for a couple days. They had me waiting for over 4 hours! They let people who came after me go first because, well, they were either children or their legs were broken or something. Anyway, by the time the doctor saw me, he was surprised to see that I had a 104.5 fever. He asked, "Why didn't they get you in earlier?" and I said, "You tell me." He prescribed some antibiotics for me. By the time I was done, the pharmacy was frigging CLOSED! So I had to call a taxi, wait another 15 minutes, and go to another pharmacy with a high fever. No one even asked me how I was doing.



The next time I had a fever, I refused to go to the ER. It was a waste of time.
 

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I went to the ER a few years ago with a kidney stone, they took me in right away, I was treated immediately - granted there were no others in the waiting area at the time (3:30 am)

A year later I rush my sister there with extreme abdominal pain at 9:00 p.m., she sits in the waiting room until 1:00 a.m. while a broken finger and sprains go ahead of her - the triage jerk put her down as "back pain".

Turns out she'd ruptured her intestines that afternoon - nearly died.
 

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The last time I was in the ER for me was almost three years ago now for severe chest pains. My daughter and my son went with me. She drove. I watched while the man across the hall got his EKG and all the attention and I was told it was probably acid reflux. They drew blood and all that . Came in said my potassium was low and could be a sign of a mild heart attack or the cause of the chest pain. So I asked the doctor:

"Do you think you ought to do an EKG?"

"OH, yes...didn't we do one yet?" I had been there three hours with a suspicious pain in my chest that didn't just go away after five minutes. I felt like my sternum was being crushed. The next day I ran into some paramedic friends at the store...told them about it. Guess what they told me.

"Your first mistake, you're a woman in good health. Second you walked in there on your own. Next time, call us. We do that EKG on the spot. And never EVER walking in the ER with chest pain. They will take the man who is brought in by ambulance over you every time.

My family physician was furious. He said more and more heart attacks with women mid age are going undiagnosed because they don't fit the profile for heart attack. By the time they got around to the EKG four hours later, it was too late to know for sure. :rant:

I went to ER because I was really sick for a couple days. They had me waiting for over 4 hours! They let people who came after me go first because, well, they were either children or their legs were broken or something. Anyway, by the time the doctor saw me, he was surprised to see that I had a 104.5 fever. He asked, "Why didn't they get you in earlier?" and I said, "You tell me." He prescribed some antibiotics for me. By the time I was done, the pharmacy was frigging CLOSED! So I had to call a taxi and go to another pharmacy with a high fever.

The next time I had a fever, I refused to go to the ER. It was a waste of time.
 

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Oh my word! LOL....I am glad you set them straight.

After I have been on this forum now for um? counts...9 months, I would have been hard pressed not to blurt out, it's those late nights taking Phentermine, hanging out in the Royal Kingdom and HOL too long. ;)

It got to be more annoying than embarrassing after a while. For goodness' sakes, isn't a married woman allowed to get laid anymore??? LOL

I realize that I am young to be married, and that I look even younger than I AM, but I filled my age out on the form, and I am pretty white to have a Mexican name by birth, ya know?
 

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One of the hospitals here actually makes the patient go back ALONE and anyone accompanying them has to stay in the waiting room until the doctor decides it's ok for them to come back. I'm not sure how that works with minors, but I know adults have to go back separately. I guess there's a huge domestic violence problem, so they want the patient alone so they can get the actual answers out of them. Thing is, the ER is WICKED SLOW with processing people. I was alone for an hour or more before my husband finally raised enough hell that they let him come back. Then, of course, they all thought that he was abusing me. Right. 'cause it was his violent beatings that left me feeling like I had appendicitis.

So...I feel your pain. I hate hospitals, doctors, emergency rooms, etc. I won't set foot in one unless I absolutely need to, so I'm sure I'll get the same dirty looks with my kids since I won't be hauling them the second they skin their knee or sneeze.

Oh, and the part about having to repeat yourself everytime? THAT PISSES ME OFF. READ THE GODDAMN CHART, PEOPLE!!! When I had my miscarriage, I had to repeat the gory details to at least half a dozen people. I *ALWAYS* have to repeat and repeat and repeat my drug allergies, and still someone always tries to prescribe codeine or vicodin or something. I don't expect people to *remember* every detail, but if I've written something in gigantic block letters on top of my chart...READ IT!!! What you said about your son could've just as easily been noted -- and read -- in the chart.
 

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I hate that, too. I have to repeat my drug allergies about a thousand times every time I go in for ANYTHING... Last time I was getting a regular checkup, and I mentioned an earache. The doctor wanted to prescribe Amoxycillin just in case. First of all, I had just finished telling her that I would rather wait and see than just go popping drugs, and second of all, I had also just finished telling her AND THE NURSE that I am allergic to sulfa and... penicillin. Brilliant. I wanted to kick her.
 

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The diagnosis? "Come back if you still can't feel anything in a few days."

I hate hospitals.

Grrrrr....had a great post written, and it's gone.

Long story short...after getting hurt at a Southern California theme-park that shall not be named, I went to the ER. They did all kinds of stupid stuff, but the creme de la creme was when the doctor said, and I quote:

"We think you may have damage to your spinal cord. Could you please walk over to Radiology?"
 

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I hate that, too. I have to repeat my drug allergies about a thousand times every time I go in for ANYTHING... Last time I was getting a regular checkup, and I mentioned an earache. The doctor wanted to prescribe Amoxycillin just in case. First of all, I had just finished telling her that I would rather wait and see than just go popping drugs, and second of all, I had also just finished telling her AND THE NURSE that I am allergic to sulfa and... penicillin. Brilliant. I wanted to kick her.

They all think I'm a drug addict because there is one, and only one, painkiller that I can take. It happens to be Dilaudid (hydromorphone; a form of morphine). Explaining THAT to an ER doc is not fun.

When I had my miscarriage, no fewer than 5 people walked in and said "On a scale of 1-10, how bad is the cramping?" I said, "What cramping?" And every last f*cking one of them looked at me like I was a moron and said, "The cramping? You know, the reason you're here?" To which I would reply, "Look at my chart. I specifically wrote 'NO CRAMPS/PAIN' in huge block letters." Idiots. They treated me like crap anyway, so I guess it was par for the course. Oh...and they also gave me shit for "waiting so long" to come in (but you know if I'd come in the day I started having problems, they would've acted like I was just a hysterical pregnant woman over-reacting to symptoms that could just as easily be nothing).

I guess we just can't win for losing!!!
 

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Some of you recall my daughter? The recovered from Meth addict? She has had a couple car accidents since the ordeal and she will just blurt out,

"I can only have tylenol or aspirin or Ibuprofen. I am addict and I am in recovery and I like to keep it that way."

They treat her with such reverence it is amazing. Maybe we should all try that. :) Not the meth...the idea of spilling our gutts so they don't question us.
 

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EMT's and paramedics are also a very different breed from doctors. I honestly think that hospitals would benefit greatly from having a few on staff full time in emergency rooms.

I had two stupid hospital/doctor moments in my life. The first was when I broke my hand and finger in fourth grade. It happened in gym class early in the morning, my mom came, got me, took me to the hospital. There were apparenly only two doctors in the whole damn building who could take and read a freaking X-ray and they were both in surgery. So my mom and I waited... for five hours until they finally pulled one during a break in his surgery to come down and fix things. I wasn't allowed to eat, or rather, the nurse wasn't sure if I should eat or drink anything-- including water. I understand now it was just in case it needed to be operated on, but I was 11 and hadn't eaten since 7am. I got home at 4:30pm.

Second story-- also broken bones. I broke my leg really late at night (around 1am) and the police and ambulence came, really nice people all around. My leg and ankle were both swollen like a football and they give me a nice ride to the hospital. Talk to me the whole way, keep me calm. I get to the emergency room and wait for two hours-- without pain meds, because they can't give me anything until I'm seen by a doctor. The doctor comes, gives me a shot of demerol (the only nice thing he did for me that night) and sends me up for x-rays. Okay, I go back down to the room where my parents are and wait for another hour until he comes back.

"You broke your leg."

"No, really?" <please take the sarcasm you should read there and multiply it by 100>

"Yes, you broke the fibula. We'll splint it and you should go see an orthopedic surgeon on Monday."

"But what about the ankle," I ask. (I had heard several cracks, not just one and my foot was laying on its side with the rest of my leg upright.)

"There's nothing on the x-ray."

"Look again, I know I did something to my ankle too."

"I'm sure it's just a reaction from the fall."

Whatever. The nurse comes in to splint the leg and attempts to move my ankle. BAD IDEA.

"Please don't move that."

"I have to, if the splint isn't on right, the doctor won't let you leave."

She moves the ankle and gets it to about 60 degrees and I calmly tell her if she moves it any further I will start screaming my head off and probably kick her to boot. She puts the splint on without any further manipulations.

I go to the doctor 24 hours later. He glances. GLANCES at the x-ray.

"Oh, I see you broke your ankle too."

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Some of you recall my daughter? The recovered from Meth addict? She has had a couple car accidents since the ordeal and she will just blurt out,

"I can only have tylenol or aspirin or Ibuprofen. I am addict and I am in recovery and I like to keep it that way."

They treat her with such reverence it is amazing. Maybe we should all try that. :) Not the meth...the idea of spilling our gutts so they don't question us.

I try to do that...but when the only drug you're not allergic to is one of the most addictive they have, it's kinda hard to do without sounding like "just cut to the chase and gimme the good stuff." LOL
 

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Yep ..pretty spot on from what I see at the hospitals now days. They also referred us to an Orthopedic doctor and I said:

"Thanks but we have one of our own."

"Really cos if he isn't this guy, I can't say about the quality of care."

At which time I feel my son tug my hoodie sleeve and say:

"yeah mom..that's our doctor and he winks."

LOL. He knew I was ready to let loose after everything we had already been through. And what is with them assuming the worst and NOT listening!

People these days. Oh and one person, she says..yeah I am getting my nursing degree. I looked at her. "There's a shortage you know."

I kept my mean thoughts to myself. I didn't say "There still will be even after you graduate" She was the worst one. Kept repeating what I had said as if somehow it didn't make sense.

People. *sniff*