Doctor Who (may contain SPOILERS for current episodes)

callalily61 said:

Not bad. I didn't warm to Martha, really, but I didn't warm to Rose for a few episodes either.

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I had the same reaction. I was still so sad to lose Rose, & my friends (who downloaded it & watched it b4 me) were, like, "we love Martha" right from the beginning, while I was like, "Yeah, she's nice, but I miss Rose." After the full third season, I like them about equally, but for different reasons.

callalily61 said:

Like how the Doctor pines for Rose just a bit.

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Um, good. As Bmwhtly said, get used to it.

callalily61 said:

We get the Shakespeare episode next week. (DON'T TELL ME!) Hope it'll be as decent as the Eccleston Dickens episode was.

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Personally, I liked the Shakespeare ep better than the Dickens ep.

Bmwhtly said:

Well, I always thought Tennant was kinda like Tom Baker on Crack. But that may just be me.

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Yeah, my roommate's parents have old Doctor Who eps on tape & we've been watching Tom Baker, & thought that Tennant was very similar. (Of course, we also find some nice similarities w/ Mal from Firefly/Serenity, & that's not even because of the browncoat)

BTW, I just downloaded the CD last night off Itunes, & the music is gorgeous. Sadly, only the first two seasons (still over 30 songs, & most a good length too) because the third season has some really good music, but still a beautiful soundtrack.

jvc said:

Yep, couldn't agree more, I don't like Catherine Tate or the character she played, let's hope the writing in the next season compensates for that. I still have to confirm that Tate is in all episodes though.

ETA: yep it's true, Tate will be in all 13 episodes of the next series .

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Ugh. So I should enjoy the season that y'all have seen every episode of while it lasts?

Shakespeare was delightful. Loved the HP references. Getting a little tired of the mouthful-of-fangs villains already. Some costume designer have a think against decent teeth?

And, of course, we DON'T GET Torchwood here in the states.

>grumble, mumble, rant, gripe<

Which then should be MST3K'd? This weekend, I re-watched their riffs on "Puerto Rico-Island of Progress" or some such. Painful.

Posted too slow. Y'all across the water are much more awale than I. I'm only 1/4 into the first cup of coffee. My laughing guy was in response to Bmwhitly. scarletpeaches, who's the Barrowman?

Oooh, yes. I did like him.

Stupid international TV rights bean-counters who won't give us Torchwood.

zahra said:

It's like a grown-up Dr Who by someone who thinks being grown-up only requires lots of sex and swearing, the stories are often too puerile for the remit of 'adult sci-fi', the lead woman is irritating as hell and John Barrowman just does not have the depth to carry a series. Sorry, he doesn't. He is too light-weight. Song-and-dance man who got lucky, is my opinion.

I do like the young techie boy in it, the one with the 'tragic girlfriend-secret' (don't want to do a spoiler, so that's all I'll say) but Burn Gorman, the one who is (inexplicably) supposed to be the one everyone in the team fancies, is miscast, but the BBC likes him, so there we are.

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Torchwood got better towards the end of the season, as they switched the focus a little more towards Jack & a little less on Gwen. I don't like her much, nor Owen. At least I now have a reason for why Owen is so popular, but he does nothing for me visually (I thought he looked more like a monkey than anything else) & is annoying to boot. Really Jack & Yanto are the only ones I like, though Tosh isn't too bad.

I do agree w/ Torchwood being more "grown-up" than Doctor Who. I kinda compare them to Angel & Buffy (the series, not characters). Angel was darker, more serious, more "down to business" than Buffy, IMO. I see Torchwood that way too.

I wish Jack would stay w/ the Doctor. He is a much better character as a sidekick than as boss. I was willing to accept the change in his character on Torchwood as being a result of what Rose did to him & being left behind & what happened in between then & Torchwood, but then he came back to DW, & was pretty much the same ol' Jack.

I Captain Jack Harkness, btw. His presence alone keeps me watching Torchwood. Hopefully, next season will be less Gwen/Owen-oriented & more Jack-oriented.

Sage said:

I wish Jack would stay w/ the Doctor. He is a much better character as a sidekick than as boss.

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They usually cast the sidekick as an oposite personality from the doctor. Sarah Jane and the kilted guy were practical, Tom Baker wild-and-crazy. Jo Grant a little silly, John Pertwee serious with a capital S. Christopher Eccleston angsty and grim, Rose goofy and flighty--Jack happy-go-lucky.

So Jack won't work with Tennant-and neither does Roas, alas. I saw ther doom coming in the werewolf episode--the one that initiated Torchwood--when Rose and the Doctor got all "eeee!" over the fact of a werewolf.

Alas, maybe that's why they're bringing back Miss Runaway Bride. She's the polar oposite of Tennant's characterization.

Alas.

Update: CBC will be showing Torchwood starting this fall! There's hope for the New World yet.

Mmmm...an hour a week of Captain Jack.

Bmwhtly said:

You may enjoy it, but I was bored and started forgetting to watch it by about halfway through.
Some interesting ideas but on the whole... naff.

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Official nod of agreement.

-Derek