View Full Version : It's always darkest

03-12-2007, 05:53 PM
Does anyone know who said, "It's always darkest before the dawn?" Or where it comes from?

I've searched and the closest I can come to is a humorous quote: It's always darkest before the dawn. So if you're going to steal your neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it. By Anonymous.

Is that the actual quote? I was planning on using it in my story, like, "They say 'it's always darkest before the dawn'..." and thought if the originator was known, I could say "Shakespeare said..." or whatever. Otherwise I'll leave it as the ubiquitous "they."

aka eraser
03-12-2007, 07:36 PM
I searched Bartleby's (http://www.bartleby.com/) and only came up with a couple of references. This one, from E. Cobham Brewer's compilation Dictionary of Phrase and Fable lists it as such:

Darkest Hour is that before the Dawn

(The). When Fortune's wheel is lowest, it must turn up again. When things have come to their worst, they must mend. In Latin, Post nubila, Phoebus.
Source: Dictionary of Phrase and Fable, E. Cobham Brewer, 1894

03-12-2007, 07:38 PM
The newspaper line sounds like classic Groucho Marx.

But otherwise, I'm afraid I have no idea. It may really be an anonymous phrase, a "every cloud has a silver lining," sort of thing that we have no idea who actually said first.

It's a great line though.

03-12-2007, 07:48 PM
My Dad said it. He also said "Every cloud has a silver lining," and "Check your oil and water!!!"

03-12-2007, 07:50 PM
IGOR: It's times like this that I remember what my old dad used to say.

FRODERICK: What was that?

IGOR: "What the hell are you doing in the bathroom all day and night? Why don't you get out of there and give someone else a chance?"

Celia Cyanide
03-12-2007, 08:01 PM
I don't know, but that's a great question.

Here is a song by the Mountaingoats:

I hope I cut myself shaving tomorrow
And I hope it bleeds all day long
Our friends say it's darkest before the sun rises
But we're pretty sure they're all wrong

03-12-2007, 08:17 PM
"It's always darkest just before someone toins on the lights." - Cole Porter, Anything Goes