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I've had several requests for a room that was more about philosophy and theory behind language and writing--the AW Roundtable is a pretty nuts-n-bolts kind of room--so here you go!

And a big welcome to Colorado Guy, for agreeing to moderate here.
 

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Oh my goodness. I'm deeply intimidated just by the name of this room. And yet, and yet....I'll come back. How cool.
 

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I think I'll have to wait for someone to start a thread, though, because I'm entirely unsure what goes in this room exactly.
 

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That's the beauty of a room about theory and philosophy, Pete--it's actually much more flexible than one might think. Rhetoric, ethics, lit crit....go for it!
 

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What, all that stuff?

*boggles*

Now I have even less idea than I did a minute ago.

I will damn well think of something, though.
 

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I'm with PeeDee on this one . . . I think I'll just wander away until my mail-order PhD comes in.

But, congratulations to Colorado Guy for the new position.
 
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We can still belch and drop cookie crumbs in here, right? Right?

Welcome to modhood, Colorado Guy! You da man!
 

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Perhaps we should discuss the ethics of cookie crumbs in a public place?
 

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Congrats on your modship, CG!

(is this where we can discuss William F. Buckley's use of purplicity in language as a class delineator?)
 

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MidnightMuse said:
Perhaps we should discuss the ethics of cookie crumbs in a public place?
For a second there, I thought you said ethnicity of cookie crumbs....
 

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ChunkyC said:
(is this where we can discuss William F. Buckley's use of purplicity in language as a class delineator?)
Sure, as long as we can have some kind of sound feed/pod cast thing to capture that wonderful intonation of his -- an olive up each nostril, purple prosody all wonderfully spilling out his mouth.
 

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Someone's got to start this, then.
The fun began when early man started naming things. So someone comes up with "apple." (And I don't mean Gwyneth). Does it lead to further scrutiny of apples? Further speculation and theory? Looking at apples, we now differentiate among their properties. Now we have McIntosh, Granny Smith and Golden Delicious. I think language enhances our curiousity and observation.
 

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Plus, to name a thing is to have power over it. Ask any dermatologist, who looks a blotchy, red rash all over your body and pronounces you have erythroderma universalis. There -- I named it -- now I control it. (I'm not kidding, by the way -- there is such a fancy name for being red all over.)
 

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Like knowing the name of a demon in summoning. (Not that I do that, but I just read The Amulet of Samarkand). To paint a portrait, one has to notice every detail, see how the forms flow into eachother, find the light and shadow. We do that with words, therefore we must look closely.
 

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But language also has the capacity to limit our thoughts, no? To allow us to pigeonhole as a type of intellectual shorthand which might prevent our analyzing further? Sort of like racism, in the sense of intellectual laziness.

Man, that thought won't be popular with writers.
 

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jbal said:
But language also has the capacity to limit our thoughts, no? To allow us to pigeonhole as a type of intellectual shorthand which might prevent our analyzing further? Sort of like racism, in the sense of intellectual laziness.
Definitely. Buzzwords and cliche occur on many levels, all of which are evidence of lazy thinking.
 

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I'm talking about words in general though. By nature they limit the abstract concepts they represent.