View Full Version : from Self-Publishing to a deal with Warner Books

12-16-2006, 11:56 AM
I have to stand here in witness that Self-Publishing is an excellent way to break into the biz. Warner Books picked up my self-published book, "Forever My Lady".

In a nutshell you have to prove to them there's a huge niche market for your book. And of course you need to write an excellent book. But the most important is the first part: proving their a niche market by selling enough books or even creating enough traffic from reading your ebook that it shows them there's lots out there and you've just scratched the surface.

12-19-2006, 01:22 AM

12-19-2006, 01:25 AM
Wow--what a coup!!! Congratulations!

Sheryl Nantus
12-19-2006, 02:26 AM
could we please *not* encourage the spammage more than it is already?

12-19-2006, 02:55 AM
Hmmm-spammage is that spam deep fried with a side of cabbage? Or perhaps a game to play regarding spam-age or the age of elderly cabbys?

At any rate spam or not-welcome to Jeff-and congratulations on your spam and your book-well done!

01-06-2007, 07:37 PM
You're in good company... quite a few best selling authors kicked off by self-publishing (.. I discovered another yesterday .. Beatrix Potter).

01-06-2007, 08:06 PM
I read yesterday about a toddler who fell four stories and survived. He was caught by a couple who was passing by and saw him playing on the fire escape. Ergo dropping your toddler from a fire escape is an excellent way to get down from the fourth floor.

Seriously, I'm happy that the self-publishing route worked for you. But a single example doesn't convince me, since it's one success compared to the thousands of self-published books that never get picked up, and basically vanish into the mist...

01-06-2007, 08:17 PM
You're in good company... quite a few best selling authors kicked off by self-publishing (.. I discovered another yesterday .. Beatrix Potter).

Compared to how many who failed?

Those stories got circulated precisely for that reason: they're rare. It's great that Mr. Rivera's experience worked out for him, but it's by no means a conclusion that self-publishing would land you a deal with traditional houses.

01-07-2007, 08:10 PM

Heheh. Sums it up neatly.

Even IF self-publishing weren't such a low-odds endeavor, a business model that requires you annoy the hell out of people in order to succeed is just not my idea of a good plan.

Besides, even by the self-pubbed original poster's own logic, the measure of success is that his book rose out of its tainted category. Seems to me it would be more efficient to just bypass that step all together.

01-07-2007, 08:13 PM
130 posts in 3 days and then he vanished. If anybody was wondering if he was here for meaningful discussion or just spamming his book, that should settle it. I seriously hope nobody bought it.

01-07-2007, 08:21 PM
Or, maybe he's busy writing.

05-24-2008, 01:26 PM
No, I'm pretty sure it was a spamming.

05-28-2008, 09:18 PM
I am glad the spammer is gone but I would like to say that self publishing (not vanity press) is proving itself now.

Shadowmancer, which sold tons and is going to be a movie was self published.

The Shack was self published. You can find it in any Walmart. I have read parts of the Shack and feel that it needed another write and more white on the page but the guys are moving to a big company and in talks with movie folks.

They probably wouldn't have been bought by a traditional publisher. In fact, they got rejected by both Christian and mainstream labels. But now that the numbers are in it is showing that it can work and is working more often now.