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badducky
11-30-2006, 11:17 PM
Alright folks, what grade level do you write at?

(go to the help button, and type in "Display Readability Statistics" to find out how to get this info)

I'm floating around fourth grade right now with my fiction.

That puts me between Mitch Albom and Danielle Steele according to the blog that got me frakked about something new:

http://oneminutebookreviews.wordpress.com/2006/11/16/does-mitch-albom-think-hes-jesus/

WerenCole
11-30-2006, 11:20 PM
Don't have any writing in front of me. . . but I once noticed that when I write papers for the university they tend to be around a 7th grade level. When I write my fiction is around 11.

Higher Education, anybody?

badducky
11-30-2006, 11:27 PM
You can say that all you want, but where's the hard data!?

Show me the official results. None of this "My Word is Better than Microsoft Word" nonsense...

Sarita
11-30-2006, 11:36 PM
4.2 on my Nano Novel. Around 6 1/2 on most other stuff. It's strange though because one of my short stories clocked in at 1.8 and it has words in it like painstaking, tapestries, eccentric, demeanor... What second grader knows those words?

Jaycinth
11-30-2006, 11:40 PM
Book one chapter 1...7th grade ( like mid April before school goes on break)
Book 1 chapter 2...12th grade ( like when you first sit in your seat in the fall)

Thanks! I always wanted to konow what that little tool did.
HUGS!

William Haskins
11-30-2006, 11:44 PM
5.9 on a short story (http://poisonpen.net/fiction/wolves-at-the-door/).

10.2 on a poem (http://poisonpen.net/poetry/colors).

Sarita
11-30-2006, 11:49 PM
Whoa. One of my poems clocked in at 21.6. What grade is that?

William Haskins
11-30-2006, 11:50 PM
senior citizen night school vocational training.

Sarita
11-30-2006, 11:52 PM
Makes sense. It's the one about reincarnation.

MidnightMuse
11-30-2006, 11:56 PM
I can't get the bugger to display the results. Either I'm writing at super human level, or -- more likely -- it's too simplistic to even anaylize !

Shadow_Ferret
12-01-2006, 12:27 AM
I think you actually have to go through the whole process of spell checking with grammar and the Flesh-Kincaid thing on to make it display the results. I don't have time for that.

Perks
12-01-2006, 12:34 AM
8.8 on chapter 1
6.1 on chapter 10

Oh dear. My story's getting dumber.

badducky
12-01-2006, 12:38 AM
My business-writing is a solid 9.0. Weird, because I guarantee my books are smarter.

aghast
12-01-2006, 12:38 AM
2.3 novel, 10.4 essay, 100.9 technical paper - the thing is if your novel has a lot of dialogue it will lower the score a lot - a mark twain book will probably rank at about 3rd grade

Perks
12-01-2006, 12:40 AM
8.9 on an essay - ha! This is fun - sort of. I didn't know that was on Word. Great. One more thing to worry about. Thanks for nothing, badducky.

William Haskins
12-01-2006, 12:41 AM
- a mark twain book will probably rank at about 3rd grade

i read tom sawyer and huck finn at that age and enjoyed them immensely. i think such a score is to twain's great credit.

Bartholomew
12-01-2006, 12:41 AM
Uh oh... 20.4 on my Young Adult short story...

badducky
12-01-2006, 12:49 AM
8.9 on an essay - ha! This is fun - sort of. I didn't know that was on Word. Great. One more thing to worry about. Thanks for nothing, badducky.

you're welcome.

Shadow_Ferret
12-01-2006, 01:28 AM
We've had discussions on Flesch-Kincaid before.

Fer instance: http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40843&highlight=flesch-kincaid

arrowqueen
12-01-2006, 01:46 AM
Damn! I thought this was an erotic Western thread.

Shadow_Ferret
12-01-2006, 01:55 AM
Damn! I thought this was an erotic Western thread.
I thought Thomas Kincaid was getting into erotic art.

aghast
12-01-2006, 01:56 AM
i will ride if you would just plow my field

Perks
12-01-2006, 01:59 AM
I thought Thomas Kincaid was getting into erotic art.That's the most horrible thing you've ever said.

badducky
12-01-2006, 02:04 AM
suddenly the flesh-kincaid rating of our messageboard ascends so high, no one is mature enough to read it.

Shadow_Ferret
12-01-2006, 02:50 AM
That's the most horrible thing you've ever said.

Thank you. Considering my output, that says quite a lot! :D

Soccer Mom
12-01-2006, 02:55 AM
I write anywhere from thrid to fifth grade level. Then again, if dialogue and active voice lower the score...um...that's primarily what I do. Heh. Oh well. And my children's stuff was written at a higher level than my adult stuff because there is less dialogue. Hah! Oh well.

Cath
12-01-2006, 03:01 AM
OK - answer me something as someone who didn't go through the US school system. What grade relates to what age group?

Confused as always.

aghast
12-01-2006, 03:06 AM
grade 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 = age 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17

Cath
12-01-2006, 03:07 AM
**fog clears**

Thank you! :D

Rolling Thunder
12-01-2006, 03:40 AM
Novel: 6.0
Short Story: 5.2, 3.8 and 6.1
Poetry: 6.1

I never even knew this was in MS Word. Thanks for the information!

dclary
12-01-2006, 04:54 AM
5.7 with the current Jake Edwards story, and only 2% passive.

WerenCole
12-01-2006, 06:42 AM
You can say that all you want, but where's the hard data!?

Show me the official results. None of this "My Word is Better than Microsoft Word" nonsense...


Well, here is the problem. I write on my laptop, I use the internet at the university library because I refuse to pay ComCast. . . (alright, I can't afford to pay ComCast)

Thus, I do not have any writing in front of me. Sorry:flag:

Gary
12-01-2006, 05:54 PM
I'm consistent in the high 9's, but what surprised me was the average number of words per sentence. My novel averages 20, but I thought 17 was considered average for writing at that level.

dclary
12-01-2006, 08:27 PM
Well, here is the problem. I write on my laptop, I use the internet at the university library because I refuse to pay ComCast. . . (alright, I can't afford to pay ComCast)

Thus, I do not have any writing in front of me. Sorry:flag:

And posting a little of it in SYW is...?

Shadow_Ferret
12-01-2006, 10:04 PM
What's fun is highlighting a paragraph at a time and checking it. I have some paragraphs that are grade 12 and higher and then there's the occassional one that drops down to 2.7.

For the record, the paragraphs where I quote Plato clock in at 7.2 and 9 respectively.

Jaycinth
12-04-2006, 11:47 PM
Folks I have discovered that this feature is available in Word Perfect also.
Tools. Grammatik. Options. Readability.
There are also a lot of other features in there too. I was up late Friday night playing with it.

Now, because I was playing with it, my daughter asked what I was doing. (She wanted me to go to sleep so she could sit on my laptop and play SIMS)
I explained that I was trying to get all of my writing at a 10-12th grade level. (The novels average 7th)
...."Why?"
"Because I want to write and sell best sellers. And I don't want people to think they are written by an idiot."
"It says 'Readibility' mom."
"Yeah."
"My English teacher says the average American reads at a 6th grade level."
"Uh, huh."
"So if you want a lot of people to read it, shouldn't you write it at a level that the average person reads at?"
"Go to bed."

Oddly enough, she left me feeling better about my writing. (But she didn't get tho 'SIM' until Sunday)

Shadow_Ferret
12-04-2006, 11:56 PM
"My English teacher says the average American reads at a 6th grade level."


I thought that was common knowledge. That's why I was wondering why some people in this thread seemed to be getting all angsty about it.

JDCrayne
12-05-2006, 01:17 AM
I thought Thomas Kincaid was getting into erotic art.

And you'd be AMAZED at what he's got glowing. And twinkling.

Rolling Thunder
12-05-2006, 01:24 AM
I explained that I was trying to get all of my writing at a 10-12th grade level. (The novels average 7th)


I cut and pasted a short story from the NYer and found the first 3 paragraphs logged in at 10.4

Then, I cut the last 2 paragraphs and checked only the first one. The score jumped to 12.

Maybe this can be of use to learn how the editors there look at subs?