Dick Cheney, Flip-Flopper

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In 1992, Dick Cheney, as SecDef explained why Bush Senior didn't invade Iraq:
I would guess if we had gone in there, I would still have forces in Baghdad today. We'd be running the country. We would not have been able to get everybody out and bring everybody home.
And the final point that I think needs to be made is this question of casualties. I don't think you could have done all of that without significant additional U.S. casualties, and while everybody was tremendously impressed with the low cost of the (1991) conflict, for the 146 Americans who were killed in action and for their families, it wasn't a cheap war.
And the question in my mind is, how many additional American casualties is Saddam (Hussein) worth? And the answer is, not that damned many. So, I think we got it right, both when we decided to expel him from Kuwait, but also when the President made the decision that we'd achieved our objectives and we were not going to go get bogged down in the problems of trying to take over and govern Iraq.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/192908_cheney29.html

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Of interest, Cheney's speech was made 18 months after Desert Storm was over, which means in 1992, Cheney predicted that had we'd invaded Iraq and taken over the country, we'd still be there, BOGGED DOWN, trying to GOVERN IRAQ.

Fast forward to March 2003, and the Bush administration story is "6 weeks and we'll be out".

Three years after that its "No one could have guessed we'd still be there by now"
 
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Double :ROFL: :ROFL: on the last two posts.

Man, I'm drunk.

WHere the hell is Stew/Trish and Terri and Saritams and Mac( I dont care I'm going for it anyway...I'm that cute) and storygirl and tinyterror and all my favorite Aw women.


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Heh. I think most of 'em have long since gone to bed, Thrillsy. Have a nice time, tonight?
 
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I'm gonna need someone to hang with me by the toilet bowl, Mac, saying...

"You alright, dude?"

Damn.

And I drank the same amount I always drink.

That damn Jenny Craig diet left me weightless and susceptible to extra drunkenes.
 

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Oh dear. We tried to warn you about the Cold Duck.
 

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Sounds like he oughta maybe try a little cold turkey.
 
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LOL... no cold duck...regular Extra Dry and I really think it was a weightloss and not drinking in awhile problem.

The lower the weight the less you can drink and the longer you abstain the less you can drink.

And I didn't eat much tonight.

BUT,.,,,I've been here before. It's nothing that three hotdogs, two advils and FIVE large glasses of water can't handle.

And to Osama...if you think that our defenses are down because Im drunk..think again..

Clary and Mac have the Con, mother f'er.

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I can't help but wonder how long til he regrets those hot dogs.
 
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Thank you....Okay...I'm done...I'm gonna play my guitar, drink some water and go to sleep.

First song, Close To Fine by the Indigo Girls and I dedicate it to our Commander and Chief of Boarding, Macallister, whose first name I still dont know, but I hope to before our AW get together in the Rose Garden, Summer '25.

Goodnight, AW.

WHT7
 

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Thrillsy--that IS my first name. My last name is Stone. :)
 
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"Macallister Stone"

Do you realize what a cool name that is?

I'm using that in a screenplay....

"Who killed her?"

"The word on the street is that it was Mac Stone."

"Wow. Mac Stone? Macallister Stone? We thought she was dead."

"No such luck."

"The force spent 12 years trying to bring her to justice."

"Someone pulled the plug too soon, because that's a bottle that hasn't been corked yet."

"Macallister Stone still wreaking havoc. Wow. They won't even believe it."

CUT TO: INT. AW OFFICE - AFTERNOON
 

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billythrilly7th said:
I'm gonna need someone to hang with me by the toilet bowl, Mac, saying...

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I'll do it.

Here, let me help you wash your hair. And no bubbles to get in your eyes - just a nice shade of blue. Say hi to the little man in the boat as he passes by, okay?
 

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I think Mac and Billy would make a great couple, although I see a lot of moderators fearing this relationship, a la Arnold and Maria.
 

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dclary said:

Hm, well, the Bushites certainly beat a dead horse about WMD's, but I think the idiom to best describe them would be:

buy a pig in a poke: To buy something without inspection, thereby creating an opportunity for fraud. Canonical: unethical farmer places a barn-yard cat in a burlap bag (poke) and sells it sight-unseen to another, claiming it contains a piglet.

By hook or by crook : by any means possible

Open up a can of worms:To create a situation that is hard to deal with, to get involved with something that is discomforting, hard to resolve, or not easily escaped

Can't _____ oneself out of a wet paper bag : Woefully unable to perform the task in hand

Castle in the air : A plan that is impractical, illogical and not likely to work

Cry wolf : To raise a false alarm

A day late and a dollar short : Too little, too late

Go off half-cocked : To do something, typically violent or disruptive, prematurely.

I believe its because the NeoConChickeHawks, fail to grasp that:
The devil's in the details : When a task sounds simple in concept, but carrying it out proves much more difficult.


Perhaps because they:
Drink the Kool-Aid : To follow blindly without thought, often to one's own demise.

Or they didn't want to discuss the:
Elephant in the room : The problem or situation immediately obvious to all, but spoken of by none.


But the certainly were drawn to Iraq:
Like a moth to a flame : Strongly attracted to something, regardless of likely negative consequence

And they definitely
Screwed the pooch : To make a grievous error

I can only hope that with the 2006 election:
The chickens have come home to roost : The deleterious consequences of your previous actions have now become apparent

And now they looking at having to
Eat crow : To suffer humiliation and/or reluctantly admit defeat.

And at least some of them should be:
Hauled over the coals : To harshly scold, reprimand or interrogate someone about something they did.
 
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billythrilly7th said:
Double :ROFL: :ROFL: on the last two posts.

Man, I'm drunk.

WHere the hell is Stew/Trish and Terri and Saritams and Mac( I dont care I'm going for it anyway...I'm that cute) and storygirl and tinyterror and all my favorite Aw women.


Thank u.
I feel so honored to be on Drunk Billy's AW Holla Girl list. :Hug2::ROFL:
 
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it is a good thing, OFG - notice my rofl guy in that post! :D

I bet Billy's feeling pretty rough today.
 

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Greg, it's very clear here. Lemme explain-no, is too much. Lemme sum up.

Dick was for the war before he was against the war before he was for the war. He was also against the insurgency before he was for the deadenders before he was against unknown unknowns.


Does that clear it up for you?
 
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