Reminiscent of actions taken against the Jews by the Third Reich

Popeyesays · Nov 8, 2006

This letter was leaked by someone in the Iranian Ministry of the Interior apparently. It reiterates actions decreed against Baha`i's in Iran the previous year .

Yeah, I've been Baha`i for more than thirty years. It's the largest single religious minority in Iran, was founded in Shiraz, Iran in 1844. The initial revelation of the religion resulted in as many as 20,000 deaths of those early Baha`i's at the hands of the Shah's government. Today there are approximately 7,000,000 Baha`i's in virtually every nation around the world.

Persecutions have only worsened there since Khomeini's revolution took power.

19 August 2006 Letter from the Iranian Ministry of the Interior

[TRANSLATION FROM PERSIAN -- Translator’s notes appear in square brackets [ ].]
28 Murdád 1385 [19 August 2006]
Islamic Republic of Iran
Number: 70878/43
Ministry of the Interior
In the Name of God
To the honourable political-security deputies of the offices of the Governors’ General of the country
Greetings,
Respectfully, we have received reports that some of the elements of the perverse sect of Bahaism are attempting to teach and spread the ideology of Bahaism, under the cover of social and economic activities. In view of the fact that this sect is illegal and that it is exploited by international and Zionist organizations against the government of the Islamic Republic of Iran, we therefore ask you to order the relevant offices to cautiously and carefully monitor and manage their [the Bahá’ís’] social activities. In addition, complete the requested information on the enclosed form and forward it to this office for its use by 15 Shahrívar [6 September 2006].
Siyyid Muḥammad-Riḍa Mavválízádih [Seyyed Mohammad-Reza Mavvalizadeh]
Director of the Political Office
[Signature]

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Facsimile of the original letter in Persian:
http://info.bahai.org/pdf/19august2006letter.pdf
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billythrilly7th · Nov 8, 2006

Sadly, for them, happily for the world, but also sadly for the world in a although it's good for the world long term, it's still sad that it will come to this way....Iran's days are numbered.

dclary · Nov 8, 2006

Not if the Democrats have any say in the matter, they're not.

greglondon · Nov 8, 2006

Iran's days are numbered.

Yeah, we'll just take that phantom extra division of troops and a phantom carrier battle group, and phantom bomb the phantom hell out of phantom Iran.

In short, what the hell are you talking about that has any basis in reality? we need a couple hundred thousand troops in Iraq that don't even exist. The only place these troops for invading Iran are going to come from are out your bippity boppety boo.

greglondon · Nov 8, 2006

Not if the Democrats have any say in the matter, they're not.

I think you mean "Pentagon" when you say "Democrats", because the Pentagon will basically look at anyone proposing to invade Iran and inquire as to whether they are indeed smoking crack.

This is the problem with living in the real world. We don't have that limitless supply of military firepower that is commonly available in war porn fiction. Of course, explaining this to folks living in non-reality based imaginations can be difficult.

oswann · Nov 9, 2006

billythrilly7th said:
Sadly, for them, happily for the world, but also sadly for the world in a although it's good for the world long term, it's still sad that it will come to this way....Iran's days are numbered.

I would actually love to be to be as simplistic as this. I would love to think overthrowing systems of government would lead to the instant love of American style democracy and to believe the uncountable amount of waffle Billy throws up daily in his life dedicated to sitting in front of his computer. I'm sure the sky is clear in Billy's world and he sleeps like a baby.

Os.

dclary · Nov 9, 2006

I know it is and I do in my world!

nicegrrl · Nov 9, 2006

Iranians are not idiots. They will overthrow this regime by themselves soon enough. Arabs however...well, arabs are idiots. Really, they are.

billythrilly7th · Nov 9, 2006

oswann said:
I would actually love to be to be as simplistic as this. I would love to think overthrowing systems of government would lead to the instant love of American style democracy

"Iran's days are numbered" is a fact. There is no need for it to be more complicated.

And there won't be an "overthrowing" and attempting to "lead to an American style democracy."

There will be destruction that rains down like hellfire from above.

Everybody likes to talk about how we're too busy in Iraq to fight Iran.

Yeah, if we wanted boots on the ground in Iran. But we learned our lesson.

Our air force, our navy, our air craft carriers and our missiles and bombs are well rested.

If Iran continues down the path they are currently on, they will see how well rested.

I hope they come to their senses.

They will not get a nuclear weapon.

A simplistic fact.

Thank you.

billythrilly7th · Nov 9, 2006

nicegrrl said:
Arabs however...well, arabs are idiots. Really, they are.

That's not nice.

Robert Toy · Nov 9, 2006

nicegrrl said:
Iranians are not idiots. They will overthrow this regime by themselves soon enough. Arabs however...well, arabs are idiots. Really, they are.

That’s a pretty board brush you’re using – read history much?

Bravo · Nov 9, 2006

Robert Toy said:
That’s a pretty board brush you’re using – read history much?

hello robert.

waking up from your nap?

i havent seen you post here much.

badducky · Nov 9, 2006

Germans weren't idiots, but they still kept Hitler around. Heck, one of Hitler's own little non-idiots managed to win a Nobel Prize.

Don't give smart people too much credit. If you told me -- as a fairly smart person -- that I could either allow this extremely intolerant regime to continue abusing other people, or I could risk my life and limb in a futile quest to end a military propped up by oil-wealth and religious fervor... Well, I'd do exactly what many, many smart Iranians do. I'd get on a plane to Vancouver, Canada and thank Allah I'm able to get myself and my family out of that heckhole. I wouldn't stay and fight.

Me is pretty smart. Not the brightest guy out there, but bright enough to figure this equation out.

Let's see... Risk life and limb to end a regime that would happily rape, torture, and murder every member of my family over even the slightest of heresies, or scrimp and save for that plane ticket and get the heck out in peace.

I don't foresee a revolution. I foresee a steadily increasing polarization that will collapse from the top through a military coup, or will collapse from the bottom through international intervention.

In 1936 one couldn't just hop onto a plane to escape Anti-Semitism.

billythrilly7th · Nov 9, 2006

Bravo said:
hello robert.

waking up from your nap?

i havent seen you post here much.

He's writing.

Something you should consider doing at some point after finishing your 18 years of post high school schooling for god knows what at this point.

Thank you.

TeddyG · Nov 9, 2006

I just knew the Zionists would get blamed in there...
some things are just so predictable

Bravo · Nov 9, 2006

billythrilly7th said:
Something you should consider doing at some point after finishing your 18 years of post high school schooling for god knows what at this point.

are you purposely trying to depress me?

.....

i have to go to class now.

billythrilly7th · Nov 9, 2006

Bravo said:
are you purposely trying to depress me?

i have to get to class now.....

I wasn't purposely trying to, but there are "happy accidents" in life.

Good luck in class. Say hi to all the cute chicks for me.

nicegrrl · Nov 9, 2006

That’s a pretty board brush you’re using – read history much?

Yeah, And Ive yet to understand how bedouins could not progress past the point of tribes living in tents until the west showed them what oil was for despite the fact that they existed between ancient greece, persia, egypt and byzantium- essentially the middle of all great ancient civilizations. What is their excuse for being so dumb for so long?

Iran does not like its regime of ayatollahs for the most part nor do they like organized religion. They'll grow out of this.

badducky · Nov 9, 2006

Also, I look forward to the day someone can say "Jewish" and nobody immediately thinks of "Hitler" or "The Holocaust" or "The Political Situation in Israel".

Haggis · Nov 9, 2006

nicegrrl said:
Arabs however...well, arabs are idiots. Really, they are.

You must really want to be banned. Nothing else could explain a statement like that.

TeddyG · Nov 9, 2006

badducky said:
Also, I look forward to the day someone can say "Jewish" and nobody immediately thinks of "Hitler" or "The Holocaust" or "The Political Situation in Israel".

I can only shake my head at the utter stupidity of that statement.

Bravo · Nov 9, 2006

Haggis said:
You must really want to be banned. Nothing else could explain a statement like that.

i honestly hope she doesnt though.

i think she says things that are on a lot of ppl's minds.

thank you.

billythrilly7th · Nov 9, 2006

Also, I look forward to the day someone can say "Bravo" and nobody immediately thinks of "Hump" or "The Bushy Situation with his hair."

nicegrrl · Nov 9, 2006

You must really want to be banned. Nothing else could explain a statement like that.

Well they arent poor, so we cant blame poverty for their general psychosis, so what are our options? Its either their religion or their overall cultural backwardness.

billythrilly7th · Nov 9, 2006

TeddyG said:
I can only shake my head at the utter stupidity of that statement.

I wasn't sure what to make of it. I just kind of read it, tried to formulate something and respond but I had nothing.

It sounded like it could be stupid.

But then it also sounded like it could be "I hope the Jews can live in peace, prosperity and without anti-semitism where the mere mention of them no longer brings up these horrible images and events."

:Shrug:

Reminiscent of actions taken against the Jews by the Third Reich

Popeyesays

Now departed. Rest in peace, Scott, from all of us

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