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TsukiRyoko
10-12-2006, 07:06 AM
Anyone in the chatroom on the 11th will know where this came from:

What's a 4 letter verb that is spelled the same when written backwards and upside down?


EDIT:
And no, this isn't a game, FYI :)

TheIT
10-12-2006, 07:10 AM
DEED?

TsukiRyoko
10-12-2006, 07:11 AM
Nope, we (the chatroom) tried it

Opty
10-12-2006, 07:14 AM
Sees?

TheIT
10-12-2006, 07:15 AM
I'm confused if DEED doesn't work. When you say backwards, do you mean mirror reversed?

TsukiRyoko
10-12-2006, 07:15 AM
Yep, it's gotta be mirror reversed, AND upside down.

Opty
10-12-2006, 07:15 AM
What do I win?

Some votes?

TsukiRyoko
10-12-2006, 07:17 AM
Maybe, but I know you definately get pancakes. lol

Opty
10-12-2006, 07:18 AM
The question might be too hard for pancakes. Therefore, tonight will just be cookies.

poetinahat
10-12-2006, 07:19 AM
MOW works, but it's a letter short.

TheIT
10-12-2006, 07:20 AM
I think ZOOS works, but it's a noun.

TsukiRyoko
10-12-2006, 07:22 AM
not, when flipped it would turn into SOOZ

TheIT
10-12-2006, 07:24 AM
All depends on how well you write your S's and Z's. :D

TsukiRyoko
10-12-2006, 07:26 AM
that's true, handwritten would work

Opty
10-12-2006, 07:27 AM
Is there actually an answer?

"Sees" would work if it weren't for the whole mirror effect thing.

And, if you use san serif lowercase "t's," and write the "t's" with the strike directly through the middle (which, I believe, is technically incorrect), then it could be "toot."

A. Hamilton
10-12-2006, 06:17 PM
wouldn't it have to be something with i's, o's and/or x's?

maestrowork
10-12-2006, 06:20 PM
"toot" is the only word I can think of.

FennelGiraffe
10-12-2006, 10:56 PM
peed?

Only in lower case, though.

maestrowork
10-12-2006, 10:58 PM
It's not reversible or mirrored...

dpaterso
10-12-2006, 11:37 PM
The answer, when it comes, had better be a damn good one.

As said above, I O X (and H) are the only letters that mirror horizontally and flip vertically. Ain't many 4-letter words, never mind verbs, come to mind from that short selection. The middle 2 letters and the outer 2 letters would have to be the same!

-Derek
My Web Page - naked women, bestial sex, and whopping big lies. (http://hometown.aol.co.uk/DPaterson57)
Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.

TheIT
10-12-2006, 11:48 PM
Lower case L ("l") also flips horizontally and vertically.

aadams73
10-12-2006, 11:51 PM
SWIMS works, but it's five letters.

dpaterso
10-13-2006, 12:07 AM
Good thinking, but SWIMS == ZMIWZ (imagine the Zs are rounded like Ss)

SWIMS when flipped vertically becomes
SMIWS

(tearing hair out)

-Derek
My Web Page - naked women, bestial sex, and whopping big lies. (http://hometown.aol.co.uk/DPaterson57)
Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.

aadams73
10-13-2006, 12:16 AM
Tsuki, I hope you realise that if there is no satisfying answer, we are going to hunt you down like dogs and slap you with fish. :)

robeiae
10-13-2006, 12:30 AM
IOOI

It's Ancient Greek and means "to slap silly." Socrates used to IOOI Plato whenever he got out of line.

aadams73
10-13-2006, 12:34 AM
How about, MOOW, you know, a cow with a speech impediment.

robeiae
10-13-2006, 12:35 AM
Or "oooo..." It's what a cow with no lips says.

Bufty
10-13-2006, 12:35 AM
As far as I can work it out, using lower case I guess, we can use

b,c,d,l,m,n,o,p,q,u,w and x.

But I still can't yet get a mirrored and upside-down 4 letter verb permutation from that.

blacbird
10-13-2006, 12:47 AM
Tsuki, I hope you realise that if there is no satisfying answer, we are going to hunt you down like dogs and slap you with fish. :)

Way too kind. Now I won't sleep tonight.

caw.

Stew21
10-13-2006, 12:52 AM
why did I open this thread? dammit.

SpookyWriter
10-13-2006, 01:11 AM
How about, MOOW, you know, a cow with a speech impediment.I dated a girl like that once. Boy, but did she give good milk. :roll:

Stew21
10-13-2006, 01:13 AM
I dated a girl like that once. Boy, but did she give good milk. :roll:

Spook, it could be worse, Woody Allen once said that he dated a girl whose face reminded him of Louie Armstrong's voice.

robeiae
10-13-2006, 01:14 AM
My high school prom date sounded the same upside-down, backwards, and in a mirror.

Wait, that's not right...

Stew21
10-13-2006, 01:14 AM
My high school prom date sounded the same upside-down, backwards, and in a mirror.

Wait, that's not right...

i was never by a mirror!

SpookyWriter
10-13-2006, 01:15 AM
Spook, it could be worse, Woody Allen once said that he dated a girl whose face reminded him of Louie Armstrong's voice.Good thing I'm deaf. :D I don't care much what comes out of their mouth as what...(fill in the blanks)

maestrowork
10-13-2006, 02:16 AM
If you flip over boob, you get poop.

neat.

aadams73
10-13-2006, 02:22 AM
If you flip over boob, you get poop.

neat.

You have no idea how hard I'm biting my tongue...uh...fingers.

Bufty
10-13-2006, 02:58 AM
Just awoke and got it! It's midnight here and i'm in my pyjamas!

You clever clogs - reversing it means I read it the same way so it has to be letters that don't change in the mirror!

cloy

Where's my rep point! ETA - I didn't deserve one - it was wrong!! Ah well, back to bed.

:snoopy:

Anyone in the chatroom on the 11th will know where this came from:

What's a 4 letter verb that is spelled the same when written backwards and upside down?


EDIT:
And no, this isn't a game, FYI :)

poetinahat
10-13-2006, 03:15 AM
What's a 4 letter verb that is spelled the same when written backwards and upside down?

Another thought:

All words are spelled the same no matter what direction you write them. Or is that just the no-fun answer?

Bufty
10-13-2006, 04:53 AM
Okay,try COIN

TsukiRyoko
10-13-2006, 05:36 AM
Yes, I know I know.

::finds safe observation distance::

WerenCole
10-13-2006, 06:52 AM
You know little one. . . West Virginia is not that far of a drive for me. . . I think you need a safer vantage point.


Siberia is nice this time of year. . . really.

K1P1
10-13-2006, 06:56 AM
Kisses and hugs work in various permutations:

OXXO
XOOX
OOOO
XXXX

Opty
10-13-2006, 07:05 AM
Methinks that tsuki got the original instructions wrong, which is making us all chase wild geese.

cree
10-13-2006, 07:08 AM
Another thought:

All words are spelled the same no matter what direction you write them. Or is that just the no-fun answer?

I think you're on to something :)

dpaterso
10-13-2006, 11:59 AM
If you flip over boob, you get poop.

And if you flip boob horizontally, you get dood. He dood dis. He dood dat. You deserve bonus points or at least an honorable mention, Ray.

-Derek
My Web Page - naked women, bestial sex, and whopping big lies. (http://hometown.aol.co.uk/DPaterson57)
Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.

Bufty
10-13-2006, 12:02 PM
Ok, let's try again - it finally struck me at 2.0am in my bed when I twigged that if you turn a word upside down and then look in the mirror you are reading the mirrored letters in the same sequence you wrote them, so it has to be only letters that

a) have identical shapes in both the top and bottom halves - H I O X or

b) have a shape that reveals the original letter when turned upside down and mirrored- B C D E

On that basis, I guess it's ECHO, CODE, DICE, HIDE, or BOOB, etc., Or if 5 letters - CHIDE?

Pthom
10-13-2006, 09:33 PM
Has anyone actually used a mirror to test any of these?

Here's a test: Write the word DEED in all capital letters and underlined (so you can see which side is up). Turn it upside down and place it before a mirror.

:D Go and rest easy, folks.

TheIT
10-13-2006, 10:46 PM
But DEED got shot down in my first post. Maybe we need a better clarification of "upside-down and backwards"?

Bufty
10-13-2006, 11:39 PM
Then it shouldn't have been, because it is absolutely correct in my opinion, as are all the ones I quoted a couple of posts back.

Upside down means upside down - it doesn't mean flipping round from front to back. It means turning so the the top is at the bottom and if TR said DEED is wrong it can only be because it either uses the same letter twice or because he's flipping sideways from back to front instead of turning upside down before looking in the mirror.

The use of 'reverse' or 'backwards ' is a red herring to my mind.

But I remain open to being convinced otherwise - TR? At least say whether it's lower or upper case that's needed and spell out the EXACT instructions.



But DEED got shot down in my first post. Maybe we need a better clarification of "upside-down and backwards"?

Opty
10-14-2006, 12:41 AM
The whole mirror image thing got added by someone else. If we just go by what Tsuki said in the OP, then it is "SEES."

dpaterso
10-14-2006, 01:14 AM
But Tsuki added message #6,


#1 What's a 4 letter verb that is spelled the same when written backwards and upside down?

#6 Yep, it's gotta be mirror reversed, AND upside down.

SEES clearly does not fit the criteria, "mirror reversed" being the criteria.

-Derek
My Web Page - naked women, bestial sex, and whopping big lies. (http://hometown.aol.co.uk/DPaterson57)
Nice shooting, Reverend. It's like I always say, put a fox in the henhouse, you'll have chicken for dinner every time.

Bufty
10-14-2006, 02:01 AM
Where are you, Tsuki? :rant:

aadams73
10-14-2006, 02:06 AM
I think Tsuki ran away because she made this up to torture us. What she knows deep down is that we're going to hunt her down, rip off her limbs and beat her with the soggy ends. :D

blacbird
10-14-2006, 02:56 AM
Yeah, she clearly is following orders of Alberto Gonzales.

But hey, try this: It works with the state name OHIO.

caw.

TsukiRyoko
10-14-2006, 05:54 AM
Asia might be a nice drive too....

::scoots out of house quietly::

TsukiRyoko
10-14-2006, 05:58 AM
I didn't run away :D

Our new apartment doesn't have internet. Or heat. Or a phone.
::sigh:: But, I'm back.

Now for the bad news that might REALLY get me torn up.
::frightened::

I posted this LOOKING for the answer, because I got curious when it was brought up in the chatroom. BUT before you attack me, attack Kelvin, since he brought it up then left without answering. :tongue:

Opty
10-14-2006, 07:09 AM
But Tsuki added message #6,



SEES clearly does not fit the criteria, "mirror reversed" being the criteria.

-Derek
My Web Page - naked women, bestial sex, and whopping big lies. (http://hometown.aol.co.uk/DPaterson57)
Nice shooting, Reverend. It's like I always say, put a fox in the henhouse, you'll have chicken for dinner every time.

As I said, she might've misunderstood when Kelvin asked in chat and relayed improper directions to us.

I've done this exercise (or something oddly similar to it) in a class before. The answer was "SEES." There was no "mirror reversal" to it.

maestrowork
10-14-2006, 07:14 AM
I believe it's "SEES" as well -- I can't for the life of me think of a word that is mirror image of itself. That would only include letters O, I, X, and H. Try as you may, you will never find that 4-letter word using only these four letters unless HOOH is a word.

BottomlessCup
10-14-2006, 09:23 AM
A "friend" of mine did this to me once - gave me a made-up, unanswerable word puzzle. It's a terrible thing to do to a geek. Inhuman, really.

Bufty
10-14-2006, 02:37 PM
Agreed. The 'turn upside down' allows you to use another four letters, B C D and E, but if a puzzle-setter doesn't even know the answer it makes the whole exercise a bit pointless.

Tsuki - Grrrrrrrrrrr. :tongue Just for that, I'm going to set you a puzzle later today, but it will be one that works and has a definite answer.


I believe it's "SEES" as well -- I can't for the life of me think of a word that is mirror image of itself. That would only include letters O, I, X, and H. Try as you may, you will never find that 4-letter word using only these four letters unless HOOH is a word.

Pthom
10-15-2006, 12:55 PM
I can't believe that none of you have actually written your samples and then held them upside down before a mirror.

DEED does indeed work, as does SEES.

And undoubtably others do, as well.

dpaterso
10-15-2006, 01:13 PM
I can't believe that none of you have actually written your samples and then held them upside down before a mirror.

I can't believe anyone would need to write samples and hold them upside-down before a mirror. Certainly no geek would be caught using a mirror. Membership of the Worldwide Geek Association would be immediately terminated.

FYI, when S is mirrored upside-down, it comes out reversed. (I didn't use a mirror... I figured it out.)

But as said above that wasn't the complete challenge, and if I could send a power surge across the internet to spike the challenger's PC into meltdown mode, I would.

-Derek
My Web Page - naked women, bestial sex, and whopping big lies. (http://hometown.aol.co.uk/DPaterson57)
Butch and me have been talking it all over. Wherever the hell Bolivia is, that's where we're off to.

Bartholomew
10-15-2006, 07:59 PM
xoob
becomes
doox

These are imaginary verbs meaning, "The art of Bart Rocking," and "The act of dancing atop of a charging rhino," respectively.

I win.

Now Tsuki has to marry me. ^^

PeeDee
10-15-2006, 08:08 PM
Between this and the "heavier ball" thread...

....honestly. You people are sick. You know that?

Spirit_Fire
10-16-2006, 06:47 PM
Have a look at this guy's work:

http://www.johnlangdon.net/

Some of them are amazing.

robeiae
12-08-2006, 06:51 PM
I got it.

It's woom.

Bmwhtly
12-08-2006, 07:00 PM
I got it.

It's woom.Doesn't it have to be a real word?

On a vaguely relevant note, there is a word for words that are the same back to front and upside down.. is it Ambagrams?

robeiae
12-08-2006, 07:58 PM
Doesn't it have to be a real word?
What a wovely hotel woom.

Sheesz.

dclary
12-08-2006, 08:42 PM
I have the answer.

+oo+ (toot, lower cased).

Toot is often used as a colloquial term for farting.

"Did you toot?"

"I tooted"

"I'm gonna toot"


Rep me, bitches!

oswann
12-08-2006, 08:50 PM
To MOOW.


I'm going to moow the laawn.


Os.

TsukiRyoko
12-09-2006, 08:52 AM
*freezes in tracks* Oh... heh heh... you guys still know where this is? Heh.....heh......hmm.... *thinks of all the money she's lost over this thread and all the death threats she's gotten*

Well, erm...ahem...have fun, gang!

*runs and hides behind the nearest Mac lookalike*

Opty
12-09-2006, 10:19 AM
I have the answer.

+oo+ (toot, lower cased).

Toot is often used as a colloquial term for farting.

"Did you toot?"

"I tooted"

"I'm gonna toot"


Rep me, bitches!

No, because I already suggested that word like two pages ago.

dclary
12-09-2006, 10:55 AM
You would.

Dummy.