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CyberCobre
10-06-2006, 11:25 PM
Like the title says.

We haven't recieved any, and I find very little on the shelves at the book stores in my town, too. What happened to horse stories, cat stories, dog stories, James Herriot type stuff, and I don't mean Jack London mean stuff either. Heart warming, fuzzy, nice, good reading? But FICTION??? Or even based on true life. Where is it all? Isn't anyone writing it? I certainly can't find anything I want to read that warms by heart. So, writers, are you writing it or not? If so, who is the publisher? If not, why not?

Dollywagon
10-07-2006, 11:42 AM
I was quite surprised to read this posting.

Firstly, because I thought after James Herriott, and all the subsequent spin offs, this kind of thing had been done to death.
And secondly, because when I started writing animal stories, I literally couldn't find anywhere to send them to.

Yes, I did have Front Porch accept one, and a couple have gone off to Chicken Soup et al, but other than that...?

You do get mags that specifically focus on cat, dog and horse stuff, but anything else is really not accommodated for. It tends to shift into the 'practical advice' from there on in.

My family and friends have been badgering me for ages to do something on the animal front, but I've resisted for all the above reasons.
Plus, of course, that mine comes from a smallholding/opting out perspective, which the market also has been swamped with.

Very interesting to hear your thoughts though ...

I've just had a quick peek at the site, and it doesn't really suggest that you may even consider this type of fiction. It certainly doesn't say anything about stories based on non-fiction. James Herriott wrote about his lifestyle, it was all true, save a few place and name changes.

CyberCobre
10-07-2006, 04:09 PM
We have a category animal stories. You have to look at the genres on TD, not the submissions site which my coder team rarely updates unless I stand on them. TD turned into more work than the web team anticipated...and a lot more money spent on my part. But, we want animal stories. Tell me funnies about that Nubian goat in your picture. Make me smile and be happy reading the antics of Tobie the Troublesome Turtle. I want them. And I could care less if something has been done before. You know what's been done to death? He-man, she-man glutted, clotted blood and guts, no plot, just wicked sex and gore. Nope. Not for meeee. I hate cleaning out my eyes with soap. <--kidding

Dollywagon
10-07-2006, 04:56 PM
Heee's not a nubian, he's an alpiiiiine (said in whiney voice!)

I've got to be honest, CC, the only thing that bothers me about the ezine sites (not yours in particular) is that the rights are simply tied up. OK, not the hard copy rights, but most publishers wouldn't touch it with a barge pole if it were to be available on the net into internity.

I may be wrong about all this and if somebody wants to come along and put me right I'll be only too happy to accept it.

I'm going now because apparently I have started to talk in brackets (I think I must be very tired!)

CyberCobre
10-07-2006, 05:15 PM
Shhh.. Don't tell anyone. I am totally aware about that problem. The inside track is, IF a writer gets a story sold to say the New Yorker, which means they want the e-rights, all my author has to do is come hat in hand and say, um...can I have my story back? Ted has this potential with a couple of his, and we are more than ready to pull the stories for him, no hard feelings, only joy. Once TD gets to be bigger and the most important fiction market on the globe, then, well, that might be a different matter. But I totally understand what creators need in climbing the ropey ladder of success. That IS why we are primarily a reprint market.

CyberCobre
10-07-2006, 05:16 PM
Oops about the alpine vs nubian. Don't know my goatees, obviously.

Dollywagon
10-07-2006, 05:43 PM
Well, I do actually have a nubian cross, so obviously what has happened is that I have put the wrong photo up!
There. Solved.

OK, (whispering voice) I won't tell anybody, I can see the quandry from all sides. I can also now see, that there are going to be a few markets that for this reason, do focus on re-prints. Never thought of it before.

CyberCobre
10-07-2006, 05:46 PM
Okay, Nubes have droopy ears, right? Alpines have black and white stripey faces with perky ears. Got it.

CyberCobre
10-07-2006, 05:46 PM
What kind of ears does Tobie the Turtle have?

Dollywagon
10-07-2006, 05:52 PM
Very, very, small ones!

Yep. Floppy ears on the nubians.
Actually, my alpine is a tad unique. His face markings aren't equal, he's all lopsided. Bobby boy, has a goofy clown face:tongue

CyberCobre
10-07-2006, 05:55 PM
Bobby boy...um...buck (or is it ram) or gelding?

Dollywagon
10-07-2006, 06:29 PM
Gelding. Technical term - wether.

I only keep castrated males about the place. It gives me a feeling of superiority:tongue

CyberCobre
10-07-2006, 06:43 PM
Somehow I dont buy that. You don't strike me as a "lord it over" type person.

*calling your bluff* :tongue

awatkins
10-07-2006, 07:14 PM
Thanks for posting, CC! And welcome to this little bit of the Cooler. :)

I'm so glad you mentioned that you're looking for animal-related fiction. We have folks wander in here from time to time asking for markets for their animal fiction. Let's hope they all see this!

Feel free to post your submission info in the market sticky at the top of the forum. And thanks again. :)

CyberCobre
10-07-2006, 07:55 PM
I think W did that a long time ago. TD's in there I think Oct 2005. And it seems to cold in there without anyone being able to post except the poster.

Rolling Thunder
10-07-2006, 08:02 PM
This post is a bit of a surprise to me as well. My first fiction novel about a group of 'magical' cats is out seeking a home right now. I've only submitted it to one agent so far but she is considered a heavy hitter. If it is rejected I'll shop it elsewhere, but I felt if I'm going to fall off the ladder it might as well be from the top rung. My short stories regularly feature animals; one is in front of the NYer, one is being polished up (Glimmer Train is being considered as a first shot) and a humor short is half complete.

I like using animals as characters more than using people, though I have started two more fiction novels without animals in them. I write more for mainstream/contemporary though and think stories about animals will appeal to the larger market there.

CyberCobre
10-07-2006, 08:15 PM
I think mainstream/contemp is the genre style for animal stories...along with childrens/YA, of course, but that is a given, right?

veinglory
10-07-2006, 08:15 PM
I write a few animal stories but they do not tend to be in the James Herriot vein (so to speak). Those ones based on life might quickly cause my writing and animal career worlds to collide whoch could have unfortunate consequences. I do write sci fi and fiction with a strong animal focus. Like 'the Lost Souls of Cats' which is up with Quantum Muse: http://www.quantummuse.com/aug05_lost.html . I have a sequel to that one written and plan several more which take a fantasy-based approach to discussing our relations (good and bad) with cats. So perhaps once it has reverted to me I will try sending them your way?

CyberCobre
10-07-2006, 09:15 PM
I write a few animal stories but they do not tend to be in the James Herriot vein (so to speak). Those ones based on life might quickly cause my writing and animal career worlds to collide whoch could have unfortunate consequences. I do write sci fi and fiction with a strong animal focus. Like 'the Lost Souls of Cats' which is up with Quantum Muse: http://www.quantummuse.com/aug05_lost.html . I have a sequel to that one written and plan several more which take a fantasy-based approach to discussing our relations (good and bad) with cats. So perhaps once it has reverted to me I will try sending them your way?

Super cool. zen or W are the animal stories, but Min and Kaff are the fant. were I you, I'd sub to editors@thedeepening.com attn all eds, genre Crossover Animal/Fant

I guess I'd better get over to QM. Thanks.

veinglory
10-07-2006, 09:29 PM
QM is one of my favourite online zines. They are very quirky in what they take but it is always fun to read. I will see about finishing those sequels in time for the story going off QM

awatkins
10-08-2006, 08:01 PM
I think W did that a long time ago. TD's in there I think Oct 2005. And it seems to cold in there without anyone being able to post except the poster.

No, I meant the sticky in this particular forum. Anyone is able to post markets, submission requirements, etc. Feel free.

CyberCobre
10-08-2006, 08:50 PM
Oh, cool. Thanks. I'll mention it to the eds...if zen releases the leash he has on them posting here. But, meanwhile, I think I've done enough to get the AW crew mad at me.

veinglory
10-08-2006, 08:53 PM
awatkins is the Mod of this forum, so that makes it totally okay to do as she suggests.

Dollywagon
10-09-2006, 09:56 PM
VG, I read your story in QM and absolutely loved it.

I don't usually read fiction, but seriously enjoyed every bit of this one.

newmod
10-09-2006, 10:44 PM
Hi CyberCobre, just saw this post and thought I&#180;d mention these, maybe you&#180;re already aware of them, A Constellation of Cats edited by Denise Little and a series of books called Cat Fantastic. There are 5 of these edited by Andre Norton & Martin H. Greenburg. Both are published by DAW and are basically fantasy.

MidnightMuse
10-09-2006, 11:10 PM
I've occasionally contemplated blending my writing with my previous career in Veterinary medicine. Trouble is, the stories are non-fiction and, while retold in the spirit of humor, might border on the gross for the uninitiated :D

Dollywagon
10-09-2006, 11:43 PM
Well it didn't seem to do James Herriott any harm!

My problem is not the gore, it's controversy. Boy, can I be contraversial when it comes to animals, laws, people, politics, blah blah blah. And I just can't seem to keep my big gob shut about it either.

My stuff starts off being funny and then WHACK, I take a pop at the general public. Not a good idea really.

I wrote an article a few months ago. Three people who I read it to fell out with me. One being my aunt.:D

Puh, fairweather friends!

Evaine
11-25-2006, 04:09 PM
Here in the UK there's a very popular children's series of books called Animal Ark, by Lucy Daniels, about a child who lives at an animal shelter, but I can't think off-hand of anything for adults in a similar vein. James Herriot still sweeps the board.
(Actually, I think 'Lucy Daniels' might be a team of writers - there are an awful lot of them in the series).

Oh, and I do like the spin-offs from Diane Duane's Young Wizards series, about a group of cat wizards in Grand Central Station in New York - starting with The Book of Night and Moon, and also On Her Majesty's Wizardly Service.

Joanna_S
12-03-2006, 06:21 AM
I've written several animal books, all categorized as non-fiction, but one of them toes the line. The Wisdom of Yo Meow ma has an entirely fictional frame (played with a straight face, as if it's real). All of my pet books are gift books and most fall in the mind/body/spirit genre, but I guess I'm just saying that sometimes one can blur the line between fiction and non and have a great time doing it. You may have to work a little harder at selling it, but the rewards are great.

-- Joanna

helga
12-03-2006, 01:56 PM
Hi,
I think it's a good place to introduce myself (I've been lurking for ages!)
The book I'm writing now is non-fiction (pop.psychology) but the 'narrator' is an animal.
Joanna, you are absolutely right, it's hard to sell it. I've tried four agents: one replied with 'No, thank you', the rest just ignored it. As it's non-fiction I decided to submit it directly to the publishers and bingo! last week I received an offer. (I won't write much about it, as I haven't got the contract yet). My problem is, I didn't believe i'd be lucky, and that's why my sample chapters is all I've written so far. Back to writing!

Joanna_S
12-03-2006, 03:15 PM
Don't fret, Helga. Non-fiction is sold on proposals. They don't expect you to have written the book. I've never actually written a non-fiction book before selling it.

And congratulations on the sale! It sounds like an interesting book. Here's to more blurring of those lines. They're fun books to write.

-- Joanna

awatkins
12-04-2006, 07:27 PM
Hi, Helga! Welcome to our little corner of the Cooler. :)

Good luck with your book! Can't wait to hear more about it. Please keep us updated. :)

ponygal
12-04-2006, 11:00 PM
My book isn't fiction, but the stories are definitely heartwarming. Entitled "The Horses of Proud Spirit", it's true stories about abused and unwanted horses who have found their way to our sanctuary.

helga
12-04-2006, 11:31 PM
Thanks, Anne. I've just started this new project. I'll let you all know how it goes. [I love this 'animal corner' :o) ]

endless
12-12-2006, 11:42 PM
I started out writing about my dogs. Strangely enough, several breed magazines picked up some tales; two fiction and a few non-fiction/humorous ones, all short stories. You've got to have a sense of the absurd to live with the breed I have.

I'm a cat and dog person. I know absolutely nothing about goats, Nubian or otherwise, although all of my dogs are much larger than your average goat....