The Three Act Structure?

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How important do you believe the three act structure is?

Who feels they have mastered it?

Who believes it should be ignored?

Does the three act structure apply to a one act play?

Where do you think is the best place to learn about the three act structure?
 

Yeshanu

I'll butt in here, even though I'm not a playwrite...

I have a book on novel writing that uses the three act structure as a way to build a novel. I actually found it was a useful way of visualizing my novel.
 

writerscut

When it comes to screenwriting...three act structure is very important...but in playwriting, I don't feel it applies as much. Though your play does need a definite beginning, middle, and end...though in different terms. It needs to build to a climax, and whether you do the three act structure or not is entirely up to you...
 

Writing Again

I have to say I agree with Yeshanu. I believe that knowledge of the three act structure helps any form of writing whether you use it or not.

I'd go one step further and say if you have a story problem, analysing it using the three act structure will help you fix it.

And I think this is true of novels, screenplays, stage plays, and even poems, and songs. Anything that has a story.

I've used it to fix an individual chapter in a novel that was not working even tho I did not make any effort to apply it in the rest of the novel.

Thus I advocate knowledge of the three act structure.

Whether it is used, or how, or when, is totally up the writer.
 

writerscut

It is a very important tool to know, and is helpful in playwriting...most plays use it, but there are plays that involve only a few characters talking...the whole time. In playwriting one can get away with that, and that style does not always need three act structure...I guess that's what I was trying to say, but it only applies to certain cases, sorry to confuse anyone...
 

Writing Again

I read a book on screen writing that talked a lot about the three act structure, and said that some successful screenwriters have laid claim to not using it.

Then I've heard talk about "other" structures, like the four act, which I think is based on a half hour TV show so there is some kind of cliff hanger before each commercial break, and the seven act which does the same thing for hour long TV movies, etc.

Some people go so far as to break the fist act up into two or three parts and then do the same for the second and third. I think these compare roughly to "plot points."

As I say I don't use these things until I run into a problem, then I reach into my mental tool box and pull out anything I think might work.
 

JustinoIV

Stage plays are divided into Act I and Act II.

So the three act structure should not apply to Stage Play writing. Go see a play. There's a first half, and then a second half normally.

The three act structure as applied to screenplays are because films have a beginning, a middle, and an end.
 

rontarrant

Stage Play Structure

A stage play actually has a structure that fits into just about any number of acts you might want to write. There was a time when five-act plays were quite common, but now it's rare to find one that's more than two. Here's a quick breakdown:

Introduction - introduce your characters
Rising Action - get them into trouble
Climax - give them a hard smack up side the head
Denouement - they deal with ramifications of the climax
Conclusion - bring their world back into balance

This is the oldest storytelling structure in the world and you'll find it in Greek theatre, Shakespeare, etc. There are alternative structures as well, post-modern things, but they almost always include some form of this basic structure.

If anyone is still reading this thread, I hope they find this helpful.

-Ron T.
 

Writing Again

Re: Stage Play Structure

Ahhhh, so that is the five act structure.

I found out the seven act structure is designed for the needs of Television. Essentially the second act is broken up into five 12 minute climaxes to keep people coming back after the commercial break. Total of six acts at 12 minutes each with the first act set at twenty minutes. Thus 92 minutes of acting gives a two hour movie of the week. (MOW)
 

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JustinoIV said:
Stage plays are divided into Act I and Act II.

So the three act structure should not apply to Stage Play writing. Go see a play. There's a first half, and then a second half normally.

The three act structure as applied to screenplays are because films have a beginning, a middle, and an end.

Many, many stage plays have three acts, and as Ron T. says, there are also foru and five act stage plays.

I've yet to see any kind of writing, stage play. novel, short story, screenplay, anything, that doesn't need a beginning, a middle, and an end. Whether a stage play has one act, two acts, or five acts, it still needs a discenible beginning, middle, and end.

I have seen many stage plays, it's my favorite form of entertainment, and I've seen many with three acts, and more than a few with five acts. I've also seen many one act plays, and all had a beginning, a middle, and an end. Beginning, middle, and ending is the basis for nearly all writing. The only question is how you divide these.

And you can't always tell how many acts a stage play has by going to see a performance. Many three acts plays are put on as one or two act plays because of budget, location, time, and other factors.

Most now are two act plays, but this isn't set in stone, and it's quite often more a matter of money than of content or change in structure. And if you look around a bit, you can still see plays of any length. Any play needs a beginning, a middle, and an ending, and even most one and two act plays still follow the three act structure as far as content.
 

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I see the three act structure of beginning, middle and end in many "traditional" two act plays.

Often the scene breakdown helps in building toward a climax and then allowing things to settle afterward (even without an epilogue which I consider a fourth "act").

I don't have specific plays to reference off-hand but local college libraries can be invaluable references. We have a university, a college and a community college in my area. The university and college have theater departments. Often their directors will order single copies for evaluation then donate them to 'their' library.

There are also three community and one dinner theater companies in my home area. Often they will lend copies of scripts.
One even lets volunteer ushers see the shows for free. Seeing what does and doesn't work on stage (from a purely technical standpoint, I won't digress into performance issues) can help tremendously in staging action that "just doesn't work right".


To go slightly aside here, I also recommend watching any plays that were made into films. Steel Magnolias, The Odd Couple, Deathtrap, Plaza Suite...there are many others but those jump to mind. Doing this helped me turn the visual 'movie' in my head into something that works on a stage.
 

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"I have seen many stage plays, it's my favorite form of entertainment, and I've seen many with three acts, and more than a few with five acts. I've also seen many one act plays, and all had a beginning, a middle, and an end. Beginning, middle, and ending is the basis for nearly all writing. The only question is how you divide these."

Of course.

Stage plays are still more commonly broken up into 2 acts. There are some one act plays, and a few 3 act plays 'm talking about what's commonly performed).

If a playright is looking to send his work out there, though, I would think sticking two acts is best. Most production companies I've seen looking for playscripts are looking for two acts. Some look for one acts, and I've not come across those looking for 3 or more acts.

Of course, if you have the money to produce it yourself, you can do whatever you want. Just make sure that the 3 to 5 act play isn't so long that no one will have the patience to say. I'm sure you'd want a return on your investment. And I have known playrights who also produced and directed excellent three act plays.
 

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Even though it is the fashion now to present plays with one intermission, the three act structure is still followed. (ie. Beginning, middle and end)
 

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"Ahhhh, so that is the five act structure."

No, those are the parts of a three act structure. I think people confuse "ACTS" with a beginning, middle and ending, which can be sliced up into one, two, three, four, ect. ACTS. Not the same thing.
 

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As an example: Shakespeare wrote in the three act structure. (It was only later that editors broke them into the five acts that we see in the texts.) In producing them, we usually break them around the midpoint, for an intermission, but they still maintain their three act structure. (They had even been produced with two intermissions in earlier years.)
 

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I'm finding the reading of this thread to be very weird, because plays are NOT divided by beginning, middle, end. When writing a play (something I do all the time) you divide the ACTS according to the change in costume, scenery, and settings. The reason for an intermission between Act I and Act II is to allow the stage hands time to get the set from Act I off the stage and get the set for Act II on the stage and give the actors time to change costume. It has nothing to do with beginnings, middles, or ends at all!

If the stage hands need to take the trees off stage and replace them with a bedroom and than later bring back the trees, than you are going to see a 3 act play. If the actors need to change costume 5 times, than you are going to see a 5 Act play.
 

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Actually I have to kind of disagree with this EelKat. Yes you are right that people need to change sets and costumes. But that isn't the only reason WHY there exists such structures. And even though the construct exists, in part, to aid the technical aspect of the show, it is important for the writer to keep that construct in mind with writing the story arc.

For example in the big broadway musicals, there is a convention to end Act I on a cliffhanger and with a huge musical number. I guess so people want to come back and see Act II and don't decide to go home instead. But you can't just suddenly have a cliffhanger, you can't just "put in big musical number here". There has to be a story leading up to that point.

You are also working a little backwards. A playwright doesn't write in an Act break because someone needs to change the set. Someone needs to change a set because there is a break in the acts. As in, let's say, the playwright feels there ought to be three different setting in their play, well they think that not because "Gee I guess we have to give the stage management something to do, better give them a scene change" but because a scene change would best serve the story. (also I think you are confusing "Act" with "scene". An Act can have many scenes within it, many set changes and costume changes. An Act is more akin to a chapter in a novel. In a chapter you can still have many different scenes, often broken up by stars or a blank line in the text).

Also it is important to note that the five act structure? That came from a time where there was very little scenery to change and no intermission at all. When Shakespeare was performed, there might be a chair or something brought on once and a while (and they never stopped the play to do this, but merely did it under some other actors performing. They performed in broad daylight, so there were no blackouts or anything to let someone sneak stuff onto stage), but they were basically on a bare stage. And if anyone had to go the washroom they would either leave, or do it standing where they were (at least the groundlings would). So it makes absolutely no sense to say that the five act structure was created so that the techies could change scenes! The five act structure was a literary device, an old fashioned version of our now much more modern structure: rising action, climax, denouement. We wouldn't say that this structure was there so that some techie could take care of something. No it's there because the result is a pleasing story. So too was it with the five act structure.

Nonetheless you are correct in that a playwright must keep such things as set changes, intermission, etc in mind while writing their play. In fact I find it very interesting reading plays by people who have never written one before, or aren't that familiar with theatre. In movies you can write about whatever you want (especially now with how awesome special effects are). But plays still have to take into consideration so many other things than just story:

What kind of stage is this play going to performed on?
What kind of "effects" do you need, and how could they conceivably be done?
Will you have an intermission at all, and how will you put it into the show so it doesn't disrupt the action?

And many many more questions.

In the end though, they all still must be resolved by writing an awesome story. And it's the story arc of the play, divided into however many acts you wish, that will resolve all these issues.
 
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Anybody here ever seen the play "Noises Off?" I saw an off-off-Broadway performance of it back in the 1980's, then years later I saw the movie with Christopher Reeve and John Ritter. Both were undeniably perfect specimens of the three act structure.

Act 1 had the "set" facing the audience, and we watched the drama troupe rehearsing in preparation for the opening night of this new stage play called "Nothing On."

Act 2 had the "set" facing AWAY from the audience, so while we looked at all the raw and unpainted plywood of the backside of the scenery, we got to see what was happening BEHIND THE SCENERY as the troupe performed "Nothig On" for a live audience. And so we only HEARD them performing the play from the other side of the scenery/set. But at this point two members of the drama troupe were mad at each other and were sabotaging each other's lines and props. But the rest of the troupe was trying to diffuse this anger and stop the ongoing sabotage.

Act 3 once again had the scenery facing the audience, and we watched the troupe performing the play for the audience. But at this point the ENTIRE troupe was ready to kill each other so ALL of them were sabotaging each other willy nilly

Very funny stuff. And a perfect three acts, delinneated nicely by the flipfloppig of the scenery between each act.