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I just finished his latest Dave Robicheaux - Pegasus Descending

So if you are a Dave Robicheaux fan, have you read JLB's other mysteries? I read In the Moon of Red Ponies and liked it, but not as much as the New Iberia books.

And what do you think of his writing style? I happen to love it - flowery, intellectual, gritty and descriptive - all at the same time. I can't write like that, but I love to read it.
 

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I just finished Crusader's Cross, but didn't like it as much as some of his other work. I have yet to read Pegasus Decending.

I've read several of his books over the years, and have mixed feelings about his writing. He usually has a good plot and interesting characters, but sometimes the darkness of his past comes through too much and that makes the story depressing. I will happily read every book he has written, but it's a style I have to take in small doses.
 

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I think that he is the only author besides Walter Mosely in genre fiction that writes at the "literature" level. JLB writes a lot like Faulkner.

If you read his novels in the order that he wrote them you can follow his character's journey through the heart of darkness or, as Paul Simon would sing: through the cradle of the Civil War. I find him brilliant, provocative, with some novels better than others but all worth reading more than once.

He is the ONLY genre fiction writer that I stop to read sentences more than once to savor them.
 

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He is the ONLY genre fiction writer that I stop to read sentences more than once to savor them.

This is what I think is horribly wrong with his writing. The last thing I want is for a sentence to take me out of the story. He tells a good story, and usually has good characters, but for me, at least, the writing frequently gets in the way of both, something I can't say happens with Faulkner.
 

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This is what I think is horribly wrong with his writing. The last thing I want is for a sentence to take me out of the story. He tells a good story, and usually has good characters, but for me, at least, the writing frequently gets in the way of both, something I can't say happens with Faulkner.

But then Faulkner is the greatest American writer of them all... period. No one, not even JLB, can touch him.

Great literature, in my experience, is far more than just a great story. It's writing that takes your breath away... the characters are complex, the language remarkable, the book stays with you for years, even a lifetime after you read it... as do certain sentences.
 

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great writing

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But then Faulkner is the greatest American writer of them all... period. No one, not even JLB, can touch him.

Great literature, in my experience, is far more than just a great story. It's writing that takes your breath away... the characters are complex, the language remarkable, the book stays with you for years, even a lifetime after you read it... as do certain sentences.

I love great language, but great story and great characters have made far more lasting novels than great writing. Remembering a good sentence is fine, but no sentence should ever pull you out of the story. A sentence should be remembered for what it says, not for the way it says it.

Truly great writing is, in my opinion, invisible.
 

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Kate Thornton said:
I just finished his latest Dave Robicheaux - Pegasus Descending

So if you are a Dave Robicheaux fan, have you read JLB's other mysteries? I read In the Moon of Red Ponies and liked it, but not as much as the New Iberia books.

And what do you think of his writing style? I happen to love it - flowery, intellectual, gritty and descriptive - all at the same time. I can't write like that, but I love to read it.

Hey, Kate,

Kevin Tipple reviewed that very same book for the debut issue of Mouth Full of Bullets. Y'all must have been reading it at around the same time.

As a side note, I know a cop named Dave Robichaux. When I went to work for the District Attorney's Office here, he took my old job at the Police Academy.

bjb

P.S. I don't know about JLB, because I haven't read any of his books yet, but I think *you're* a great writer!
 

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Jeeze, BJ - I'm blushing!!!!

I am anxious to read Kevin Tipple's review - I look forward to the premier next week.

I think you would really enjoy JLB's work - pick up an early one if you get a chance.

For everyone who thinks JLB's too difficult to read, get the book on tape or CD. I listen to books all the time as the stroke made my left eye weak and reading for any length of time is hard for me. I have sat in my driveway in 110 degree heat listening to the end of a JLB chapter. And the beauty of his language does not obscure the story for me as I listen - I find it enhances it!
 

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I think there was a thread about this somewhere a while back, or it may be in my psychic imaginings, but I read In the Moon of Red Ponies and loved the language and story, but I thought his POV was wierd.
 

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Jeeze, BJ - I'm blushing!!!!

I am anxious to read Kevin Tipple's review - I look forward to the premier next week.

I think you would really enjoy JLB's work - pick up an early one if you get a chance.

For everyone who thinks JLB's too difficult to read, get the book on tape or CD. I listen to books all the time as the stroke made my left eye weak and reading for any length of time is hard for me. I have sat in my driveway in 110 degree heat listening to the end of a JLB chapter. And the beauty of his language does not obscure the story for me as I listen - I find it enhances it!

I wish I could listen to audio books, but unless they're actually set up and read as a radio play, with different characters doing the reading, and teh narrative adjusted accordingly, I just can't do it, no matter who the writer is. For me, there's a huge difference between writing that goes in the eye, and writing that goes in the ear. When I read, my mind and imagination are engaged. When I listen my mind soon wanders. Way too much like watching TV for my taste.
 

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James - I have the same problem with my eye when watching TV as I do when reading, so I listen instead and only look at the pictures once in a while. I think I am so accustomed to listening that having someone read to me is just as satisfying as reading used to be.
 

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Arden said:
But then Faulkner is the greatest American writer of them all... period. No one, not even JLB, can touch him.

Whatever...


Arden said:
Great literature, in my experience, is far more than just a great story. It's writing that takes your breath away... the characters are complex, the language remarkable, the book stays with you for years, even a lifetime after you read it... as do certain sentences.

I'm with you on most of that. But define remarkable. Do you mean a string of 25-cent words when the nickel versions might work just as well? I don't like reaching for the Webster's when reading a novel.

On JLB: good writer, good plots, pretty descent characters. I still don't think he compares to Ellroy or Leonard in crime fiction.
 

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I've visted New Orleans about six times. The way JLB describes it is spot on. Kate, you used the word "gritty." Perfect. There's a passage in the one JLB book I've read talking about a guy in a seersucker suit. It goes on for a few pages describing him and the surroundings. It's fricking tasty.

Unfortunately, my service in the middle east has me away from my book shelf or I could tell you the book's name ...