I got a £5,000 advance on my first submitted ms!

How much are you giving your wife? She slept with the fat guy.

Can't find my sense of humour today. Sorry D.

Are you serious? Crazy way to make your debut in the publishing world...

D - If this thread posting of yours is for real - I think you suck.

If it's meant to be a joke, it still sucks and it's in a Forum where folk usually list their genuine achievements.

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congradulations.

i own a butcher shop if you would like to a trade for some meats.

Well said Bufty

Is this what being an adult is like?!

Its not something I would be proud of.

If it is for real, remember that a number of successful Hollywood stars started out in pornographic films...

if it is a joke I missed something along the way
but if it is for real...
then you just lost your dignity..me thinks
NO WAIT
even if it is a joke
you lost your dignity...

sounds like a story idea gone bad. i'm not buying.

I read this thread and am stunned!

At first I thought this was a joke.

If this is not a joke, IMO, you have just cheapened the integrity of writers and if I were you, I be embarrased to boast about your debut into the world of the published.

All you have done is show is how low and morally dispicable you are, using such a situation as this to blackmail another to advance yourself.

IF this is a joke, it was a bad one and you're justifiably receiving these reprimands and any bad reps you get about this!

Keep your dirty laundry to yourself!

Only 5.000 for that?! Jeeezzzz! Is that the guy's standard offer for sleeping with potential authors' wives? I hope the bidding started higher.

What you just read was not meant to be taken seriously.

I find the (identifiable) women's indignation clearly understandable, in particular; you can almost feel the female sickening gut churning through the screen. Understandable too, the men's reactions...

I don't condone it, if it is true. However, let us not be too carried away by our fantasy of the publishing world, and the noble and struggling author ferretted away in his or her garret. While this might be the case for some, I do not think it is an apt description for the many.

If this is true, this chap belongs with those who inhabit the world of Raymond Chandler, Dashiell Hammett, and other 'pulp fiction' writers.And of those in films like the Maltese Falcon (based on Hammett's book) For these writers, some of what they wrote was modelled on 'real life'. And, the world of the fiction writer, who struggles vainly for years for the 'big break', is balanced by the likes of this chap, who has been offered a very Faustian choice. Faced with such a choice, his has placed himself in the dark underbelly of the publishing world; I am sure that many of us are simply not privy to this world.

We do not really know a lot about this chap and his background. But, if placed in the same situation, I am not sure I might not do the same thing.
My mother always reiterated the saying about the North American Indian and 'walking a mile in his moccassins'. And if true, the publisher's stature may not have been that 'big', given the relatively low sum of the advance.

ETA: No-one picked up the mistake about James Carver when I should have said Raymond Chandler...?

Who cares about the ethics of it? If the author's work sucks, it won't matter how he got in the door. If the work doesn't suck, it doesn't suck. Fine! And if the pub f-ed his wife, he'll find a way to f the writer too. Extortionists rarely get away clean.
$5000? LOL.

I never considered this to be anything but a joke. I wouldn't allow myself to think otherwise, it's too ugly.