Steve W said:
Thanks. This is very useful.
So would I be right in thinking the verse and Babylon could equally be applied to a person as well as a state or system?
Thanks again,
Steve
There are clues throughout the chapter and the book. Revelation 14 refers specifically to a "city".
Elsewhere in Revelation Babylon is referred to as the mother of Harlots.
The actual city of ancient Babylon was in modern day Iraq. The name was then later used as a metaphor/allegory to refer to any place of spiritual compromise. "Mystery Babylon" refers likely refers to a place which is real but an allegory as well. (It is real and a symbol of compromise and confusion)
In Revelation, the saints are warned to "flee" from Babylon or they will share in her judgments. We can't flee a person, but we can flee a place or a system. However, here it seems to refer to a specific place and also a system.
Elsewhere in Revelation "Babylon" is called the "Mother of Harlots". The term "Harlot" is used elsewhere in the Bible to refer to a state of compromise.
And in this sense, you have to look at the contrast of metaphors and allegories. God refers to his people in both the Old and New Testament as a "bride". By contrast, a Harlot would be somewhat of a false substitute for a wife. And again in terms of metaphors, a Harlot looks somewhat like a "wife" but whose motive and purpose is not love or faithfulness. (Compromise)
In the Old Testament Jezebel is a "type" of spiritual harlot. She replaced worship of "The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" with "Baal" worship.
Baal- literally means "the lord" or "master"
Beelzebub or Baal Zebub, means "lord of the flies". Baal worship was a form of compromise. Some people actually referred to "God" as "Baal". However it was a watered-down term that allowed anyone to worship anyone and anything they wanted. Baal-Peor...etc. Baal could be twisted and molded into whatever thing you wanted to worship. So, calling "God" Baal became symbolic of idol worship-am telling God who you think he should be, and approaching him to perform magic for a price. (God serves us, not we serve God)
There is a prophesy in the OT where God says, "and my people will no longer call me 'my Baal', not that God isn't their "Lord", but that they would not ignorantly worship him, dictating to God who he is, but would worship him in spirit and in truth for who he really is.
What was wrong with "Baal" worship if it could refer to "God"? The problem was that people were not coming to God on God's terms, trying to discern who God was and the will of God; it turned things around, where men could ascribe to God whatever personality or traits they "wanted God to be"
God kept laying out a trail of Bread Crumbs- I am the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob"- meaning- If you want to know who I am, what I am about, follow the trail- I'm trying to teach you about my nature and character.
When God identified himself as "I am", God was saying, "Don't pin me into your picture of who I am- don't make me into your image of who you think I am."
Long story/shorter- Babylon is a compromise that leads to confusion. In a sense, the false churches that existed under Communism were forms of "Babylon"- they were compromises where "God" "God's-will" were not the central focus. The state can't dictate who God is. I can't dictate who God is. In fact God won't let anyone tell him who he is. He tells us who he is, and the best we can do is focus on God and try to learn his character qualities from what God chooses to reveal.