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Who would have thunk?
Or is it "who would have thought"?
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Who would have thought.

'Thunk' is slang used when joking about something obvious you didn't know.

"Mike, the round peg does not fit into the square hole."
"Really, who would have thunk it?"

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Maybe I'm sheltered, but I had never heard "thunk" in my life.
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Shouldn't it be 'Who'd a thunk it?' It's definitely slang, and rather sarcastic slang, at that.
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Aw, come on now, are you all too young to remember -think thank thunk? Or am I the only one who went to grade school in the country back in the 50's and made up nonsensical rhymes on the playground?

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I've never really heard of the word "thunk" before. Maybe I've been away from America too long. I'm quite sure it's a nonstandard verb if you use it that way, but it sounds more like a noun. In my opinion, "Who would have thought it?" would sound better.
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Maybe it's regional? I've heard the word "thunk" a zillion times throughout Indiana and Kentucky. I've also found it in books on rare occasion, however.
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It's a joke; it's based on a false understanding of the verb paradigm in drink drank drunk

S. v. thunk in the OED:
dial. and joc. pa. tense and pa. pple. of THINK v.2 Cf. THUNK n.1
1876 C. C. ROBINSON Dial. Mid-Yorks. p. xlii, Think..(Thuongk) The last form is less employed participially than in the past, in which tense it is of constant occurrence. 1887 Lantern (New Orleans) 15 Oct. 3/2 Who'd a thunk it? 1908 N. DUNCAN Every Man for Himself ii. 60 Leastwise, he thunk so, admittin' 'twas open t' argument. 1939 JOYCE Finnegans Wake 504, I then tuk my taken~place lying down, I thunk I told you. 1967 T. SAVAGE Power of Dog xiii. 240 Phil had most excellent use of the hides after all. Who'd a thunk it!
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"Who wudda thunk it"? is slang in my part of California. Kind of slang for kidding tongue-in-cheek. (Sorry, September--maybe it's the company I keep!) ;)
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Oh, come on guys, don't let me be a thread killer for this "hot" topic. ;)
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My mom, who was a prolific reader and interested in language, told me "Who'd a thunk it?" was popularized in some comedy act in the 30s. Darned if I remember whose act.

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No matter the original, it seems like the word has been included in dictionaries.
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Who Would Have Thunk?
Who would have thunk
That when he got into such a funk
His legs took him to the bar to go get drunk
Then when the beer covered him and they told him he stunk
He went down to to the lake to take a cold dunk
But the bottom covered his feet with goo and gunk
Stinking and dirty not daring to return home - he went to a friend to lay down and bunk
Though the neighbors all wanted to know who was this smelly, dirty punk
He rose in a few hours and began to make his way home through streets still full of yesterday's junk
Arriving on his doorstep full of remorse, his wife just kissed him and asked "How is my hunk?"
And so he pondered and wondered
Who would have thunk?
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No matter the original, it seems like the word has been included in dictionaries.


The inclusion of a word in a dictionary doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot, particlarly when the dictionary is the OED, and dictionaries who sub-license the OED.

The fact that it's based on an O.E. word, and that there are no attestations before the 1800s indicates that it's a neologism; the actual examples further indicated that it's humorous in normal use.
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It's also a sound-effect: :Headbang:

Can you hear it? "(*&$* thunk!)
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The inclusion of a word in a dictionary doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot, particlarly when the dictionary is the OED, and dictionaries who sub-license the OED.

The fact that it's based on an O.E. word, and that there are no attestations before the 1800s indicates that it's a neologism; the actual examples further indicated that it's humorous in normal use.


I place an awful lot of stock in the OED. I think it's far and away the best source there is, and it's always wise to listen to what it says. That said, the only way I've ever heard "thunk" used was as humor, or even more often, in surprise. I don't think I've ever heard it used as sarcasm.
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...the only way I've ever heard "thunk" used was as humor, or even more often, in surprise. I don't think I've ever heard it used as sarcasm.

"Thunk" works well for self-deprecating humor because it's incorrect. A newly popular form for saying the same thing sarcastically is "Who knew?"
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I am exceedingly fond of the OED as well. But the OED is an historical dictionary, with the purpose of recording the use of every word in the English language from 600 to today. It's an excellent source for historical purposes, though even then it needs to be used carefully.
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Quote:
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The inclusion of a word in a dictionary doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot, particlarly when the dictionary is the OED, and dictionaries who sub-license the OED.

The fact that it's based on an O.E. word, and that there are no attestations before the 1800s indicates that it's a neologism; the actual examples further indicated that it's humorous in normal use.


Languages that are spoken are like living, breathing organisms. They grow and change. They evolve along with the society that uses it.

Just because a word did not exist before the 1800s doesn't mean it's not valid. No one used the words "email" and "electronic" in those days either. Are you trying to tell us they aren't valid either?
That being said, you have to be careful about looking at context before using a word. Something like "thunk" that is slang and meant for humour would not go overwell in a scientific paper.

The OED is an excellent resource and inclusion of words in a dictionary means an awful lot! It means that the word has (at least some level) of universal recognition and has been accepted into our language.

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Just because a word did not exist before the 1800s doesn't mean it's not valid. No one used the words "email" and "electronic" in those days either. Are you trying to tell us they aren't valid either?
That being said, you have to be careful about looking at context before using a word. Something like "thunk" that is slang and meant for humour would not go overwell in a scientific paper.

The OED is an excellent resource and inclusion of words in a dictionary means an awful lot! It means that the word has (at least some level) of universal recognition and has been accepted into our language.

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1. I did not say it wasn't valid; you won't hear me say that about a word, ever.
2. I'm a contributor to both the MED and the OED. I'm pretty cognizant about what it means for a lemma to be included in a dictionary.
3. I worked as an freelance editor and parser for microlytics for three years; we created and analyzed corpora for dictionaries. Trust me, I know how dictionaries are made.
4. It only takes three attestations to get a word listed in the OED; inclusion only means that the word was used in print; it doesn't mean that the word is universally recognized at all or even that it's widely attested. The OED is trying to record every single word, in the history of the language; including those from obscure dialects and slang.
5. The OED is an excellent historical resource, if you know what you're doing, and if you're familiar enough with language to know how to cross check; it really is riddled with errors, errors that are being found and corrected as quickly as possible, but given the way it was compiled initially this is laborious, difficult and time consuming. Many of the paper slips are now too fragile to be handled at all.
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I seemed to have misunderstood you. I am sorry.

I do, however, still hold the opinion that inclusion in a dictionary is a sign of use. Three examples from three different authors on three different occasions is a strong reason to include a word. It shows that the word has some level of staying power. (Now if the last use was in 1796... But that is why you have to carefully examine what you are reading...)

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1. I did not say it wasn't valid; you won't hear me say that about a word, ever.
2. I'm a contributor to both the MED and the OED. I'm pretty cognizant about what it means for a lemma to be included in a dictionary.
3. I worked as an freelance editor and parser for microlytics for three years; we created and analyzed corpora for dictionaries. Trust me, I know how dictionaries are made.
4. It only takes three attestations to get a word listed in the OED; inclusion only means that the word was used in print; it doesn't mean that the word is universally recognized at all or even that it's widely attested. The OED is trying to record every single word, in the history of the language; including those from obscure dialects and slang.
5. The OED is an excellent historical resource, if you know what you're doing, and if you're familiar enough with language to know how to cross check; it really is riddled with errors, errors that are being found and corrected as quickly as possible, but given the way it was compiled initially this is laborious, difficult and time consuming. Many of the paper slips are now too fragile to be handled at all.


It's still the best out there, by far, and verifying what any source says is what a good writer does as a matter of habit.

And they don't actually try to record every single word. Many are left out intentionally, particularly in the internet age. Some have been left out that have hundreds of attestations in the most recent update.
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Oh my god, that word is in dictionaries?
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It's still the best out there, by far, and verifying what any source says is what a good writer does as a matter of habit.

And they don't actually try to record every single word. Many are left out intentionally, particularly in the internet age. Some have been left out that have hundreds of attestations in the most recent update.


Yes, they do try to record every word; the words that become lemmas are a different story. Current contributors add to a database, rather than fill out the slips the way we used to, but the goal is still the same; to record every word with sufficient attestations that meet the board's requirements, and then, from that corpus, determine which words will become lemmas.

This is the same practice that has been followed since shortly before Tolkien was an editor; it's just moved to a database.
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I don't think it's regional, like one of the quotes said above. The chance to communicate with people all over the globe has increased, courtesy of the internet, and I've witnessed the word used by people everywhere (or claiming to be).

I've only seen in used a book once before, and it was a little shocking.