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lizmonster
12-05-2017, 01:51 AM
Has anybody tried one of these (https://www.pictostone.com/shop-online/ruled13x21hardcoverblack)?

I'm considering giving one as a gift, but I'm wary. (I also need to contact them to find out if it's vegan.)

AW Admin
12-05-2017, 02:08 AM
I'm not a fan of stone paper, though it has some interesting qualities. It's water resistant, though the ink you use might not. It's ok with ballpoint or pencil; not so good with gel or fountain pen. I can see someone writing in rough circumstances finding the tear-resistant water resistant traits appealing.

Here are two reviews from notebook and pen blogs I follow:

The Pen Addict (https://www.penaddict.com/blog/2014/5/5/ogami-professional-stone-paper-notebook-review)

and Brad Dowdy (https://www.penaddict.com/blog/2012/7/9/guest-review-oxford-stone-paper-note-book.html) doing a guest review.

And I remember reading this Wired piece about the use of plastic (https://www.wired.com/2013/02/stone-paper-notebook/) to make the paper.

lizmonster
12-05-2017, 02:52 AM
I'm not a fan of stone paper, though it has some interesting qualities. It's water resistant, though the ink you use might not. It's ok with ballpoint or pencil; not so good with gel or fountain pen. I can see someone writing in rough circumstances finding the tear-resistant water resistant traits appealing.

Here are two reviews from notebook and pen blogs I follow:

The Pen Addict (https://www.penaddict.com/blog/2014/5/5/ogami-professional-stone-paper-notebook-review)

and Brad Dowdy (https://www.penaddict.com/blog/2012/7/9/guest-review-oxford-stone-paper-note-book.html) doing a guest review.

And I remember reading this Wired piece about the use of plastic (https://www.wired.com/2013/02/stone-paper-notebook/) to make the paper.

Very useful links, thank you!

The fountain pen issue may be a dealbreaker. She loves fountain pens.

The plastic issue is interesting, and I'm not sure how to feel about it. On the one hand, it doesn't kill trees. On the other hand...plastic. Which kind of hangs around not biodegrading, at least most of the time. Hard to see plastic as a plus.

Maybe I will get her a lovely fountain pen instead.

AW Admin
12-05-2017, 07:23 AM
Very useful links, thank you!

The fountain pen issue may be a dealbreaker. She loves fountain pens.

The plastic issue is interesting, and I'm not sure how to feel about it. On the one hand, it doesn't kill trees. On the other hand...plastic. Which kind of hangs around not biodegrading, at least most of the time. Hard to see plastic as a plus.

Maybe I will get her a lovely fountain pen instead.

What about ink? There are thousands of shades/colors, it's economical when compared to cartridges which end up in landfills, and there are a lot that are water soluble and organic (but not permanent) as well as ones made from renewable resources that are permanent.

In terms of paper, there's some decent fountain pen paper made of rice, or the left overs of sugar cane that's been processed.

Clairefontaine paper is made from managed forests, and is environmentally certified (http://www.clairefontaine.com/ecology-environment.html) in terms of production methods and is completely recyclable and absolutely wonderful for fountain pens.

You can find it at Goulet Pens, and JetPens.com, as well as lots of other stores, local and online.

lizmonster
12-05-2017, 07:59 AM
What about ink? There are thousands of shades/colors, it's economical when compared to cartridges which end up in landfills, and there are a lot that are water soluble and organic (but not permanent) as well as ones made from renewable resources that are permanent.

In terms of paper, there's some decent fountain pen paper made of rice, or the left overs of sugar cane that's been processed.

Clairefontaine paper is made from managed forests, and is environmentally certified (http://www.clairefontaine.com/ecology-environment.html) in terms of production methods and is completely recyclable and absolutely wonderful for fountain pens.

You can find it at Goulet Pens, and JetPens.com, as well as lots of other stores, local and online.

This is a terrific idea. I've seen stuff on their Facebook timeline about ink. That and some paper might be a nice little bundle. :)

Cath
12-06-2017, 10:56 PM
Paper made from stone? Isn't that even more environmentally destructive than paper from wood pulp? You can plant another tree, but once you dig up a mountain it's not coming back.

lizmonster
12-06-2017, 11:03 PM
Paper made from stone? Isn't that even more environmentally destructive than paper from wood pulp? You can plant another tree, but once you dig up a mountain it's not coming back.

Here's Picostone's explanation. (https://www.pictostone.com/about/)

TL;DR: It's quarry runoff. Doesn't sound like the kind of thing they'd dig for independently, but of course it's nowhere near as popular as tree-based paper.

Cath
12-07-2017, 12:42 AM
Here's Picostone's explanation. (https://www.pictostone.com/about/)

TL;DR: It's quarry runoff. Doesn't sound like the kind of thing they'd dig for independently, but of course it's nowhere near as popular as tree-based paper.
Huh. Thanks. I still don't think I'd run to use it.

Filigree
12-10-2017, 06:22 AM
I might buy some sheets of it to cut as shadow applique or pierced book art pages. Strikes me as similar to Yupo 'paper', which is a plastic-based drawing surface.

Found another online supplier for separate sheets in a pack: https://www.amazon.com/Yasutomo-JMP200-Sheet-Multi-Media-Mineral/dp/B013TBQA0A/ref=pd_sim_201_5?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B013TBQA0A&pd_rd_r=ZV7C381PEBB6QNB2S5AT&pd_rd_w=TtnoW&pd_rd_wg=0IDJm&psc=1&refRID=ZV7C381PEBB6QNB2S5AT